Received Saturday, October 18, 2008.
Friday Oct 17, 2:30pm - blond girl pigtails, brown top, maroon pants, red stroller, pink camo diaper bag with west indian nanny in jeans and brown zippered hooded top.
They were either new to the neighborhood or new to the laundromat, have been coming on fridays the past few weeks. The girl was crying, and the nanny told her to sit in the stroller and say there. Now I know that in itself is not anything bad, but Violet who works at the laundromat told me that nanny has been very nasty to the child, and has been in there several times (fridays) and if she ever saw the child with the mother, she would say something.
If you live near Eckford and Meserole, and have your nanny do the laundry at that laundry mat (Laundry Land on Eckford), come in with your child on a Sat before 3pm and talk to Violet at the laundromat. She sees the nannys in here with the kids doing laundry and says a lot of them are not nice to the kids and if she ever sees the kids with their parents she'll talk to them, and let them know how their nannys mistreat their children.
42 comments:
Im thinking if a parent is sending their "nanny" to do laundry at a laundry mat with their kids ...who has money for a nanny but doesnt have in home washer and dryer? Odd.
I don't think that's necessarily so odd for a NY apartment. My husband rented a run down one bedroom rattrap in Manhattan with a leaky tub, windows so old and etched that you could barely see out of them, probably less than 1000 sq. feet total, and with no laundry facilities inside the apartment. All of this was his for just $3600.00 a month.
Orangecountycalifnanny,
Someone renting in Brooklyn that's who. Tenants in rental buildings don't pay water bills, the landlords do, therefore, they don't allow washers in apts. Many buildings have laundry rooms with coin operated machines, but not all.
A family paying 42K a year rent could have to trudge to the laundromat.
I guess Im just spoiled out here in Orange County California. Even in most apts where the tenants dont pay for water there are washer/ dryer hookups. When I was in the Air Force 30 yrs ago and lived in the dorms we went to the laundry mat. I hated it.
My post in the thread above was meant for here:
My ex-father-in-law lives in a beautiful 3br condo, white carpet, the whole nine - but NO washer & dryer. I guess they assume that the people that can afford to live in a place like that just have their clothes sent out to the cleaners, or the housekeeper does it. (But his wife does it, lol)
4:07 AM
Mom, you are either making it up or your husband is a very foolish man, which is it?
Why would he pay that much for a small rat trap when he could cross either river and pay half that for more space in a nicer place? He wouldn't have given up much, as public transportation runs 24/7 and is abundant. If this is true then I hope you are in charge of the finances in your home!
I agree with the first poster. If you are making enough to hire a nanny, you probably don't live in a place without laundry facilities.
If you are one of the people who really can't afford quality childcare so you hire a 2 dollar an hour sitter, and ususally are the type of person who regularly makes an appearance in the Craig's List WTF area of this blog, well, you get what you pay for. Is it any wonder your "nanny" was seen?
Hey native asshole
There are tons of pricey Condos and Apartments in NY that don't have a washer and dryer. Just because it is expensive doesn't mean it's going to have every freaking amenity.
So unless you want to show us your Realtor's license to prove it, shut the hell up.
To the nasty nanny.
What was so bad with what Native NYer said. I can't believe that her husband would pay $3700 for a rat trap either. He probably didn't know any better. You can live in NY and find something nice and at a lower price. Or like she suggested cross over to NJ. Maybe, Hoboken or Weehawken, its still expensive but not as high. And the lite rail is right there to go into NY.
Call me a bitch all you want - doesn't bother me. :)
Anyway, my comment to NNY was in regards to "not all expensive properties have a washer and dryer", NOT what someone's husband paid for a rat trap - so maybe next time you should pay a little more attention to what someone writes - then you won't look like such an idiot.
Native New Yorker,
Let me guess; you haven't looked for a rental apt. in the last ten years.
Actually, I helped my friend find a decent place, not the Ritz, but nice, nice place, 1,150 sq ft, for $2,700 a month, in NYC,this summer, no rats and w/d included. So you would be guessing wrong, manhattan nanny.
NY Nanny, I don't have a realty license, but my cousin does. Thank God you aren't caring for my kids with an attitude like yours.
Also thanks for the support, bitchyNYnanny. But just to be clear, the lite rail doesn't actually go into NYC. It will take you to the PATH trains in Hoboken and Jersey City for now. However there is plans to make a tunnel under the Hudson so there can be direct train access to NY, but that is at the very least a decade away.
Native NY
You started it with the crappy attitude towards Mom. Not just anybody can come on here, mess with a regular, and not get slammed for it. Sorry, but you must be new here.
And I wouldn't want to take care of your kids. Hopefully you have extended family to make sure they're not like you.
Oh btw, welcome aboard!
Oh my gawd. I'm laughing SO hard @ "You started it with the crappy attitude towards Mom. Not just anybody can come on here, mess with a regular, and not get slammed for it". Are we in junior high, nynanny? Geez, just sayin'...
(besides, from what I've seen, Mom is a level-headed persona who can hold her own...)
P.S. I do have a washer and dryer - but no nanny and I don't live in NY. :) Cheers!
What I meant is from Hoboken you can take the path train right into NY City. We do it all the time. We park on Sunday usually at the Hoboken post office. And walk over to the train station. And we are in the city in 15 minutes.
You can park at a post office all day like that and not get your car towed?
If its Sunday you can park there. We always do.
NYN LMAO! You really sound like a juvenile person. "You started it.." Seriously, are you in 3rd Grade? Because that's what I hear from the 8 year old set all the time.
Mom is a VERY level headed person and can definitely hold her own. What NNY said may have been a bit gruff, but hey, they are from NY what can we expect? :) (I'm a NYC/NJ transplant myself) But you, NY nanny, give the impression of being very immature and crude. Based upon your attitude, I wouldn't entrust my kids to you either.
BTW you really can't park during the work week to take the bus into NYC in a lot of the NJ Hudson River towns. This was because the rate of cars being stolen from commuters parking for long periods of time was taxing the local police. Also, residents have a difficult time finding parking as it is and local business owners often rely on street parking for their customers. Many of these towns have enacted resident permit parking and 1 or 2 hour parking limits. However, many of these towns also offer free or low cost park and ride areas. I suggest a call to the local Police station to find out where a particualar town has it's park and ride area located.
Oh and I own a home and have a washer but no dryer! I prefer to use the bright sunshine! :)
That wasn't me commenting people!
We now have 3 posters going by the name Manhattan Nanny, and now another NYnanny (me)..
I've been around for maybe 6 months.. but I only post a few times a week. I've never noticed anyone using that moniker before.. but am surprised it hasn't happened until now.. it being such a common name.
Oh my gosh ladies! Thanks for the support, but no offense was taken. My husband's company paid for the apartment...which was passed on to the client... and they don't make lawyers spend any extra time commuting on business trips to "save money." In fact, that would end up costing the client more, because at the rate they bill per hour in New York, 5 hours of commuting time would cost more than the apartment...so they would, in effect be paying for the equivalent of five apartments per month if he stayed in New Jersey...proviided he was able to make the round trip in less than an hour each day...otherwise it would be much more. He doesn't bill for walking a block down the street to get to work. He asked for an apartment close to his office, which was in the Met Life building, which is an (apparently) expensive part of town.
And before anybody feels too sorry for me for having to stay in a rat trap...the first time I took a look at it (before he had even spent a night there)I thought it was gross and so he gave up the apartment (meaning it must have been a month to month rental, which is also always more) and we went back to our usual accomodations...at the Waldorf. At the rate they gave the firm then he was able to stay two nights (in a usually free upgraded room) for less than 1 billed hour's work...so the client was happy that he's close to work, and hubby was happy because I/we traveled with him as often as possible.
If you really must feel sorry for us, please do it because we don't get that rate at the Waldorf anymore since the case is over and now we have to stay in not as nice places and pay for it ourselves...meanwhile the kids are spoiled and used to the Waldorf...and we have all fallen madly in love with New York...hehehehe.
Oh, and before we start a whole slam thing about lawyers charging for commute time...it's customary for them when on buisness travel to charge for ALL time spent, including travel...except for actual sleep time. My husband does not bill for time flying in an airplane, or meal breaks, etc., whereas, many charge from the time they wake up until the time they go to sleep while on a trip.
See? Told ya Mom could stand up for herself. But Mom, I don't feel sorry for ya -(SassaFrassinWaldorf) :) :)
Lawyers have a bad rap - there are many, many good ones out there, but what the public hears about are the rotten ones.
I know Mom's a big girl!.. but it still wasn't me! :)
You know what guys? I never even looked to see who said what...and I didn't see anything I found particularly offensive in any of the posts anyway.
No worries. Really.
People have been told on here that they should be forcibly sterilized by angry posters. How am I going to get upset because somebody says we are dufuses, or whatever they said, for overpaying for an apartment? They didn't know it was a corporate rental...and besides, maybe if I had paid that price as a private party for a long term rental it would have been a mistake. I have no idea.
But one thing is for sure...commuting from New Jersey does not sound fun and I would pay extra, if I could, to avoid it. It's a scary how people drive there. I don't think I could do it. And, we take the subway on occasion. It can be really hot and sweaty down there.
PS My kids really don't complain about not being at the Waldorf anymore...but I may or may not whimper about it on occasion ;)
Mom (or anybody else that knows),
how much is it to stay at the Waldorf?
wtf,
Last year when I called several times to try to get a good rate, I could not get it below $700+ per night. I Know it depends on how busy they are and what time of year it is, etc., so I tend to call several times before each trip...and am usually given a different quote each time.
When my husband practically lived there, it was usually just over or under $300.00 per night...which is GREAT for ANY decent room in the area. It didn't matter when he was there on business because the company paid...but when we went other times, or took the kids or friends and needed extra rooms, it mattered.
I've lived in Greenpoint, and going to the laundromat is not unusual there. Most buildings are old and washing machines are unusual or illegal. However, since most laundromats will also DO your laundry for you for about fifty cents a pound (in Greenpoint anyways), making your nanny do it instead does seem to be in poor form. By the time you buy supplies and pay for the machines it's not that much cheaper than having the laundromat do it.
Ok, so I guess I will be the only one talking about the actual complaint of the nanny on this post. I blame the damn parents. How can you think that your child would be happy watching the nanny do laundry? The nanny was more than likely totally frustrated. Trying to wash and fold and entertain whinny kid at the same time. The lady who works at the laudry land needs to tell the mom when she comes in to hire a maid and let the nanny take care of the kid. It's not always the nanny's fault. What else is the kid suppose to do other than sit in the stroller??
well, after I was newly divorced and pennyless, I was forced to go to the laundromat. I hated it. My son was 3 and a half. It was a bad part of town and there was no tv,no park or anything to occupy us in between loads.
So, I learned to bring sidewalk chalk,coloring books and kiddie games. As my son grew older we would play Life and Clue. It was something we actually looked forward to every week and often, we would stay long after the clothes were done just so we could finish our game.That went on for 7 and a half years.
years later,that actually came up in court.His father decided he wanted custody. We went to court and it came to my attention that during the Friend of the court Interveiw with the my son,he mentionied that to the court liason.Go figure?!
So you see,there are plenty of ways to keep a child entertained at the laundromat.
It may be a big pain in the butt,however,it is not a hard task to do laundry while entertaining a child.
BLB
You mean your son brought it up to the court officer? What did you think? Weren't you proud that it meant enough to your son that he brought up a memory like that?
Did you win custody?
blb,
I think we could have been good mommy friends! We did a lot of the same stuff. I had a bag of books and a checker and chess set...and whatever the kid I was going to be entertaining might be into at the moment and we were always plenty entertained while waiting for brothers and sister to finish whatever class or activity they might be in that was short enough so as not to make driving back and forth from home realistic. Many times we were not ready to go yet when the time came. YOu can have fun anywhere any time with kids..if you are willing and prepared. In fact, sometimes when you are at a place where there is no phone, no tv, and no other distractions, you get better personal time with them.
We read several volumes of Harry Potter at the karate studio while waiting for one karate class after another. The kids had read them themselves, but because they liked to hear me read, I would read and read...and whoever had a class during a specific time could stand up and go take it and then come back and rejoin the story without being lost.
And, I think if you're going to take a nanny job where you are told laundry at the laundromat is required, you either make it your business to do a good job with the child during that time, or don't take the job. If you're incapable of handling both at once, find a job you CAN handle gracefully. Simple, really.
Yes blb! Please elaborate. It sounds like you probably got a big compliment from your son.
Or how about as a parent you don't hire your nanny to be the maid. And if you do, then don't complain when your child is confined to the stroller during the time the nanny is washing and folding your dirty underwear. Problem solved! The child had a diaper bag, so how many fun activities can be done while your loading, unloading, folding and packing?? It must be a ton of super moms out there if they don't have complaining children when they are trying to do laundry outside of the home. Hell most of the grown ups in the place are complaining. Laudry Land sucks for all in attendance.
really,
My point was that you CAN make it tolerable, fun even, for kids, and even for yourself, when you are doing otherwise unfun tasks. My kids went with me to get haircuts, tires on the car...whatever. They were attached to my hip most times...fun errands or drudge errands included. We had fun. And those moments when I was momentarily occupied during those errands...kids are resilient enough to play with a toy for a few minutes and entertain themselves while you take your attention from them to get something done. They just don't want to sit there for hours on end with no interaction, or be expected to entertain themselves alone for hours while confined to a stroller. There's a happy medium and a good nanny/laundress can make it work. If she can't, she ought to do a job she can manage. Take a job that involves exclusively nannying, or a job exclusively cleaning houses. You don't have to be "SUPER" anything to figure out a balance here.
I stand by my point...PARENTS: IF YOU WANT YOUR KID HAPPY AND ENTERTAINED THROUGHOUT THE DAY......DO NOT HIRE A NANNY TO DO MORE THAN TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS!!! IF YOU DO....KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT DURING THE DAY THE KID WILL HAVE TO ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES!!! THIS JUST MAY RESULT IN SEEING YOUR NANNY ON ISYN.COM.
Well, really,
I'm sure if the baby was somehow occupied during this sighting...or if the laundromat employee did not report a continuing pattern of poor behavior by this nanny toward this child...it would not have made it's way to ISYN at all.
If the child was typically well cared for and just having a cranky moment when OP happened in, the laundromat employee might have instead said, "Oh, don't worry. He's just having a fussy day. That nanny is usually great with him and he's a normally very happy and sweet baby."
Having the employee ready and waiting to get a glimpse of his parents says a LOT.
If somebody hires a nanny/housekeeper or nanny/laundress, and she accepts the position, they have every right to expect that she will do her job...and well.
Oh no! A child having to enterain himself!?!?! The horror!
God forbid a kid has to rely on his own mind, imagination and coping abilities for an extended period of time.
Kids can entertain themselves. Kids love entertaining themselves at certain points throughout the day. It's down time for a lot of them. I think MOM said it best at 3:09.
And that's exactly what she was doing. The laundry....which is part of her job. The kid might just hate laundry land. He/she might get pissed every time they come near laundry land. This just doesn't sound like the nanny's fault to me. It sounds like she is just trying to do her job and the child might be a cry baby!
Maybe he wouldn't have such a Pavlovian reaction to the sight of the laundromat if it wasn't a bad experience for him time after time?
And a "cry baby?" Usually kids who are "cry babies" are that way for a reason...and it's not generally a result of good caregiving.
In general, kids give off what is put into them. If their world is a negative place, they are going to be generally unhappy. If they are loved and raised with joy, they will have a joyful outlook. There are certainly exceptions...but it's a pretty solid rule of thumb.
True...but, the person at the laundry land said they had just started coming around. Don't blame the nanny if the kid is a cry baby. And for the record...you can be a GREAT mom and still have a fussy child.
Oh and one more thing...going to the laundry mat is an awful time. Even for grown ups. And if the kid has a diaper bag (yes i said this before) he/she might just not like spending any amount of time in the stroller. Sheesh. These things are not so hard to imagine.
I know some people on here think they had the perfect life/children. They think if a child is crying oh my god, it must be bad parenting.
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