Received Friday, October 24, 2008.
Infinite Gymnastics (also known as Wisconsin Gymnastics Academy) Brown Deer, WI. Today, Oct 24, Preschool Open Gym 10:30-11:00. Child - 15 months-2 years, wearing navy sweatpants and a hooded sweatshirt with a patch on it, light brown hair.
Nanny - Older, hispanic woman with black and white stripped shirt, black pants, short hair style.
Your nanny and son were at Open Gym this morning. Your son was not listening to instructors and was jumping/running on the trampoline while other kids were on it. Your nanny continued to watch him go on the trampoline after the instructors told her that he couldn't. The instructor finally told him to sit down or he couldn't use it. He went on it again and jumped in the foam pit. He then screamed and cried for 15+ minutes while your nanny grew more frustrated. She did not say anything to him except "No" and "Sit".
She finally dragged your screaming son to the door after she struggled with him to get their coats. Your nanny was clearly struggling with your child, she could not control him or even keep up with him. They were both frustrated with the situation.
I will never understand why parents hire who they hire.
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Hmmm. Sounds to me like this child is out of control. That is more than likely the parents fault in some way.
So, what did the nanny do wrong that was so horrible it warranted her being reported here?
well,at 15 months it sounds to me like this is a normal 1 yr old.I do not agree that a 1 yr old wanting to jump and run,even after being told no,sounds out of control.He just sounds like an active 1 yr old. Any 1 yr old who does not want to climb,jump or run is not typical. You can tell them no a dozen times but at this age some just don't comrehend it. It is common behaviour at this age to repeat an action such as climbing or jumping or running. You cannot expect a 1 yr old to sit in front of a trampoline,full of children, and not want to join in. Most 1 yr olds also are not quite capable of understanding how a trampoline works and what the purpose of it is.Wanting to run on it is a normal enough response at this age.
Perhaps instead of OPEN GYM time, the nanny should take the child to a class more age appropriate. (With 1-2 yr old toddlers)This way they will most likely all be doing the same things and exploring the trampoline together.
Yes,it sounds as if the nanny is struggling.In my experience people usually hire who they can afford.
This child is too young to just sit still. Especially, when he sees all these exciting things around him. I don't think its the nanny or childs fault.
The Little Gym encourages the kids to explore, and they tell the parents basically leave them alone. Its normal, and it builds there confidence and self-esteem.
I don't understand how this place could be fun for any child.
Well this Open Gym doesn't sound like a place I would want my child attending.
Kids at that age are not going to sit still, while other kids are having fun.
Its like sending a child to a candy store, and telling them not to touch or eat anything
Not sure why this constitutes a sighting. What was the nanny supposed to do to control the kid? Hit him?
We attended little gym and although we were supposed to participate in cirlce time there was always at least one kid that did not. No one batted an eye. The parent would follow the kid around and allow them to explore, after all that's what children do. That's how they learn.
OP! are you mental? sure, the nanny didn't/couldn't control the kid- but he's a BRAT! that falls on the parents.
A 15 month old is not a brat! Just a normal child that wants to socialize with other kids.
This sounds like a classic case of a nanny who doesn't speak enough English to be able to communicate effectively with a child. Since she couldn't explain to him that all the kids needed to take turns (was this the case?), or that it was dangerous for him to use it with so many other kids on it so he could go on in a few mnutes, or that the younger kids needed to wait till the bigger kids were done, etc, ALL she could do was say "no" and "sit". OF COURSE that is not going to be effective with a child that age and I am appalled that someone who can't comprehend THAT (like the poster above me) is a nanny?!?!
If she wasn't even trying to speak with him in Spanish, to help him understand the situation better, she either had not taken care of him for long enough that HE could understand HER, or she wasn't a good enough nanny to do the job of helping the child learn while keeping him safe.
I am not a nanny. If you were referring to me.
First, as a nanny of a 4 year old and a 15 month old, I was able to control both of them. My younger charge knows to sit and wait his turn, I sat right next to him to be sure he sat. So please stop telling about an active 15 month old can't sit and wait because that is BS. Thanks Calimom for sticking up for me.
Infinite Gymnastics is a wonderful place and the kids are allowed to have all the freedom they want during open gym, which is preschool age and younger only. The only restriction is on the trampoline, the rule is one child at a time. The instructor said the child "You need to sit and wait, just like in class." So he is enrolled in class there. The nanny did not sit with the boy or even try to stop him from running on the trampoline while my charge and other children were on it she just stood there with her arms crossed.
The nanny could not communicate with the child. That was the problem, I guess I didn't make that clear enough.
When my dd was 15 months old she could not handle the over-stimulating environment of kids gyms, which played loud music,etc. We would leave if it got to be too much for her and I found other ways for her to stay active.
Turns out she did have developmental problems, so before people start calling children 'brats', try thinking a little harder. Even a normal 1-2 year old is still developing impulse control. Anyone who works with children should know this.
First, this was a communication issue. The nanny did not speak English. She was unable to communicate with the child on any level.
Second, don't tell me a 15 month old can't sit still and wait his or her turn. I sat with my 15 month old charge and we sat together while his 4 year old sibling was on the trampoline. While I had to hold his hand so he didn't go on the trampoline while there was another child on it, he was finally getting the point. Infinite Gymnastics is a great place with WONDERFUL teachers, the children are allowed to do whatever, but the one rule must be followed.
Third, there is only 1 rule at PRESCHOOL open gym. One child at a time on the trampoline, it is a safety issue. All of the child, who must be in enrolled in a class to attend open gym, know this rule. The teacher came up to him at one point and said "Just like in class, you have to wait your turn."
Yes, he was brat and yes that might be the parents fault but when a nanny is caring for the child, it is that nanny's responsiblity is the child and that child's actions. No I NEVER expected her to hit the child as one person commented but come on.
Calimom-thanks.
Get over yourself, OP. Maybe, your on here to make yourself feel like Supernanny.
Not all kids are the same. Just like NV mom pointed out. Instead, of worrying about other peoples problems stick with your own.
OP let me give you a little bit of background on me so you can see where I am coming from. I am currently attending school and I am working towards my degree in Education. We were actually given a question very similar to this (sans the nanny) and we had to reference our books to respond. I also have worked in daycares for 8 years, in the toddler room/2 yr old room and I've been a nanny and a mommy for the last 2 and a half years.
Now back to the question we were given. Children learn through playing and yes even at 15 months a child can and does sit still but it's not for very long. At that age they are strong willed and are learning about themselves as well as their environment. Children don't always listen and this one wasn't even listening to the instructor which again would be a red flag that something was different about that day.
The nanny did remove the child from the situation so I'm not sure what was so wrong with that, yes she struggled but not every child is going to be easy every day.
Children are different. Some are easy, some are strong willed, and most have their good days and bad days. This just might have been with this little boy. You've said the instructor says 'just like in class' to me that would be a red flag that maybe the child CAN behave but was just having a bad day.
I would observe more or maybe try to befriend the nanny. I bet there is a lot more behind the story than what you see. I don't see this as a sighting. She did not abuse the child or ignore him, and she did eventually remove him from the situation which is what you are supposed to do.
Eric's mom, no I meant minneapolis nanny. You and I posted at almost the same time so you came out right above me.
I can't believe its not butter, what site did you think you were on? This is a site for people to write about nanny sightings. If you think everyone should "Instead, of worrying about other peoples problems stick with your own", maybe you should find a site whose existence you approve of, instead of making yourself miserable all day at this one. Or take your own advice.
As someone who used to live in Milwaukee, I don't know where this place is, yet I do know the area, and here I thought people in WI didn't know about ISYN.
First, I must say that I agree with Eric's Mom and CaliMom. Children this age cannot sit still for very long, and learn through play and exploration. Perhaps this nanny wasn't not the best choice for this child, and if she cannot speak English, I would say she is not a good fit. I do agree with OP that on hiring people, and I can name all of the agencies in the Milwaukee area that are awful. Perhaps she came from one of those agencies, or the parents found her on their own, in which case, they should've probably hired someone who can communicate with their child, along with understanding child development. I am not saying that this nanny is a bad nanny, yet I don't think she is fluent in English, nor understands child development.
I agree with TC on this one. I don't think this was worth a sighting.
Well in all her holier than thou bitchiness, cali-mom makes ONE good point. I have heard just about all I need to hear from her and a couple of other entitled, elitist know-in-alls on this site.
Peace out.
Princess
I don't understand, why are you upset? This wasn't your sighting, was it?
You're a great poster. I hope you're not leaving!
"Entitled elitist"? roflmao. OK, whatever. Believe it or not, I do enjoy some of Bag's posts as well.
Staying out of the fray, I do agree with other posters that the language barrier seems to have been a big problem here. It's hard to calm a child down or reason with a child when you cannot effectively communicate with him or her. Many times I had to explain to one of my children what was expected of them and why when we were out and about somewhere and behavior became a problem. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. When it didn't, we went home!
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