Received Wednesday, July 2, 2008 - Rants & Warnings
I got the link to your blog from someone via Craigslist. Here is my story and followed by the posting I have on California Craiglist.We hired a nanny beginning this year and she worked for us for 3 months. She borrowed $3500 from us during that period of time, she then left in March because we refused to lend her more money. She promised to return the money in May.
Since then, she tried to run away, not returning our phone call, and then changed her phone #. Just this week, we found out since she left us, she worked for another family (through a social worker). She did the same thing again. In addition, the family suspected that she was abusing their two year old boy. They recorded (audio) that she hit their year old constantly,used F word and many other foul language. They fired her immediately and filed a police report.
Now both families filed small claims to get our money although we don't have much hope. When the other family asked the police/DA to investigate the child abuse case, they were told there is no case. I feel that we should have way to stop her from doing this to other kids and family. However, the police did not give too much help.
CL posting:
"Her name is Nguyen M. ****** (last name withheld). She likes to be called “Gi Ba” (Aunt Ba). The last four digits of her social security number are 3031. She usually answers Vietnamese newspaper ads for live-in nanny positions. She moved from New Jersey about one year ago and now lives in San Jose. She talks a lot and works very hard at the beginning. She will then start to ask for cash in advance for all kinds of reasons (family member needs money, sending money back home to help relatives, needs cash for taxi). She will try to get at least $1000-3000 ahead. When you are no longer willing to advance more money to her, she will quit and promise to give back your money. She then disconnects her cell phone.
Recently, one family audio recorded her hitting their child and using foul language behind his parents constantly. Because it was audio taped, the police do not think they can prosecute her. She is a very sweet talker and lies on many things to get your trust first, DONT BE FOOLED. Stay away from her. If you feel that you are or were dealing with this person and want more information, contact us."
I just don't want any other family or child to be hurt by this woman. Please advise.
~ Mike
26 comments:
This is very frightening. For every family I know who has used a nanny, why does it seem they all have at least one such story? Yet none of them go out of their way to alert the next family. The nannies who end up shaking babies to death, don't you ever wonder about their FORMER EMPLOYERS?
You have an obligation to your children, and then your neighborhood and then your city and your state and your country. How could anyone not do everything they possibly could to prevent some miscreant from finding work as a nanny?
why would you lend young nanny that much money in advance. Next time get a nanny cam and do a better search on the sitter you hire. she played you and the other family.
That is just crazy. Good for you for having the common sense to file a police report and pass your story along.
Bless you, Mike, for caring enough about the next family, and the potential child-victims of this wretched creature, to post a warning. I hope you find someone wonderful to help care for your chidren.
OP, I'm sorry this happened to you, and commend you for trying to warn other parents.
A Nanny
Something about the name rings bells for me. I am not sure why? I need to think a little more about this.
It maybe just a name I just remember from Craigslist. Is this a common name because I am not sure.
This is a sad story. But, I think a common one. I have met many mothers who have lent their nanny money.
Ok I think I worked it out....
I think it is a family looking for a nanny with this name as their last name 'Nguyen'. I had to look back almost a year ago to a few emails to figure this out. I am glad I did. This posting was bothering me. I guess it is a common name.
Yikes! Keep posting those craigslist ads daily, contact your local news agency... They"d love to scoop up your story!
While I love that you posted to warn others about this nanny... I question why you included something as personal as the last 4 digits of her SSN??
I would take that out seeing as it is not pertenant information and could be dangerous to have posted on a public forum.
All in all, I hope this post ends her nanny-ing days!
That's silly. There's no way to ever identify her complete SSN with just the last 4 digits. That's ludicris.
4:01,
It's actually not "Ludicris". Or Puff Daddy or even Snoop Dog. It's totally accurate. It is identifying information. I know when I call for my bank account info, it asks for the last four digits of my ss#, same with credit card companies, etc.
I don't agree with posting that information, but I do think that this nanny sounds horrible and should be busted. And this family has learned a hard lesson that you should be very careful who you lend money to.
Hmmmm. I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say ---
maybe the nanny deserves to have the last 4 digits of her social out here for all to see.
Dad is making sure of that anyway ... it's on CL, too.
Nguyen is a very common name! Just to let you know. As someone who lives in San Diego, there were about 10 Nguyens in my graduating class. Don't jump the gun if just see the name, of course wait until you get all the other info.
UmassSlytherin,
Puff Daddy or even Snoop Dog. Oh my gosh you are funny!
damn, I'm glad someone got it.
:)
Mike,
Thanks for passing this on.
Just wondering how you came across her? Craigslist?
If so, what type of background check did you do on her?
I would post this on craigs list in the SJ area. You do not have to mention any name,just the description and the money thing.
The state and area where she worked last.
Mike, I am sorry your family had to deal with this evil person.She sounds terrible! I hope that some day she runs into the wrong family and they find a way to get her busted!
I would like to warn you though to be very careful. Here in California it is against the law to ineterfere with someone earning a living or getting a job. (preventing someone from earning a living wage)
It is ilegal to give a bad work reference(you cannot legally give a bad rental reference either). What you can do if contacted is state" I am unable at this time to give you a reference for this person"
Please do not mis understand my post. I as a mom living in the Bay Area was very grateful to see your post. I would however hate to see this evil user take any of the families to court and end up winning a big lump sum of money for damages! It sounds like something she would do..so pls be careful.Get rid of the 4 ss numbers..you are asking for trouble!
I do not think I jumped the gun it was just a name that stuck with me. It is not that much of a common name here in New York City. Especially on Craigslist in the childcare section. It is a name that stuck with me over so many names. And this was a particularly upsetting post. So it was a name that stuck out for me. In any event it bothered me and I had to check this out.
Thank for enlightening us though that in fact it is common in some towns.
* personally I think her picture and all information should be posted. Let us not forget what we read here! She has abused a child! This woman needs to be bought to justice.Who cares about her personal information she is out there harming children and families. It just makes our job harder and harder!
W.P.N
On a more careful note so that you do not end up being sued! I think you should seek legal advice on this situation! Know where you stand.
W.P.N
I have reported this post and this whole blog. After browsing the site, I made the decision.
There are several infringements with this site and it needed to be brought to Blogger's attention.
Your blog can be (and hopefully will be) shut down because you posted someone's personal information. Check the Blogger.com guidelines!
http://help.blogger.com/?page=troubleshooter.cs&problem=&contact_type=main_tos&Submit=Submit
and
http://help.blogger.com/?page=troubleshooter.cs&problem=&ItemType=privateinfo&blog_ID=&blog_URL=&contact_type=private_info&Submit=Continue
While a full name and description is completely acceptable, a SSN (partial or full) is NOT!!
disappointed mommy,
aka stupid,
What are you talking about. These details are only identifiable to someone who has the whole picture. That someone would be a potential employer. I don't get your passive approach to dealing with the record number of babysitters and nannies killing, maiming and otherwise injuring our children. It is an epidemic.
I am the Black bear. Come between my cub and I and you will pay. If everything was as fiercely protective of the Black Bear, no nanny would dare lay her hands on another's child, no man would steal a child off the street.
Your apathetic passivity IS what's wrong with the world.
Disappointed Mommy
You must not have browsed this site thoroughly enough, or you would know everything that it stands for.
Jane is a good soul, who spends countless hours doing other Parents' jobs .... jobs they should've done in the first place by doing background and Reference checks to make sure the person they've hired does not abuse their defenseless child.
This Nanny in particular preyed upon an unsuspecting Family with good intentions. She is garbage, and displaying the last four digits of her SS # does not identify who she is. Which is a shame because if you ask me, she needs to be outed for the slime she is.
You have done this situation no justice, and your reaction to what this Nanny has done is akin to condoning it.
Disappointing, indeed.
disappointed mommy,
this blog is awesome. it's the best on the web. if you stick around and open your mind you will see that. go ahead and report it: it will do no good. jane broke no rules that I can see. that info had already been posted on CL.
these are the type of people who suck.
Disappointed mommy,
Is your name, perhaps, Nguyen? I have such a hard time otherwise trying to figure out why you would be angry over the sharing of such meager identifying information.
Nobody's going to know who she is over the last four digits of a SS#.
And, pardon me for saying, but the scumbag needs to be found and held accountable for her actions...not to mention protecting any future potential employers from getting tangled up with such a deceitful, conniving, con artist/child abuser as this.
This defensiveness reeks of something to hide...otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever.
What do you think of us putting up the name of the mother above suspected of harming her two year old?
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