Anonymous bonds being posted, 1,000 volunteers searching a wooded area near the airport, chloroform, pizza boxes, decomposition and a hair sample - what's your theory?
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The hard partying mom was using chloroform to knock her daughter out so she could leave her asleep in the car and party and have sex with trains of men. The overuse of chloroform caused caused a fatal cardiac arrhythmia in Caylee analogous to what is now termed "sudden sniffer's death". Casey could not admit what she had done to her parents, so she concocted a story (Only when pressed to know what happend to Caylee) and burned and buried the child's body. The grandparents are so grief stricken that it is easier to believe their psychopath daughter than face the facts that their precious grandchild that they doted on is not only dead, but dead at the hands of their own daughter.
Lindalou Everyone has their own theory as to what happened and this Thread is just a sounding board for those that want to put it out there. All of the Websites and Blogs about this Case can attest to that. If you don't like this thread, then just skip over it please.
Lindalou, how is this distasteful??? Having a discussion on our theories is not in any way shape or form distasteful. You are always just difficult! Go breastfeed your 3 year old and skip over posts that you dont like?
PC? and what? pretend it never happened? We're only human. Of course we want to know all the whys and hows. Maybe because it is hard for a normal person to understand how a mother could be so cold and callous. Casey is the most unfeeling person I think I've ever seen that they've shown in the media after losing a child - she is nothing short of a sociopath. I don't think there's anything wrong in putting that up for debate. On CNN I've read a lot of the comments after a story on her and you wouldn't believe some of the opinions these people have of her. People are enraged - did you see the video of the fight in front of the Anthony's home with the protesters? People need an outlet.
I was just going to say the same thing notolerance. Since when did lindalou get to be judge and jury and decide what was ok for us to read around here? Always bitchin' about something.
This was no accident! You use a sleeping pill to put a child to sleeep and party, and chloroform to kill her. BESIDES, granny practically raised the little girl. I'm sure she would have happily babysat for weeks on end if asked. There was no logical reason to chloroform her and lock her in a trunk to get free time. Maybe Casey wanted to kill her painlessly? Or quietly? Or without mess?
Well if anyone read the investigative discovery site the man running the blog is out there helping in the search effort. He said something today that pretty much gave it all away. The Anthony's have refused to give Eqqusearch a piece of Caylee's clothing so the dogs can hopefully find Caylee's body.
Keep in mind the grandmother asked Eqqusearch to look for her granddaughter in the first place...
I think the mother killed her, and finally came clean to the parents who then helped her dispose of Caylee's body.
fine. if you thinks it's good entertainment to treat the murder of a child like a game of Clue, you go ahead and have fun hashing out your theories and i'll go on thinking this thread is distasteful and way below the normal standards of this blog.
lindalou if this discussion is so distasteful then why do you insist on coming and commenting about it? Why don't you just stay out of it? There is nothing wrong with discussing a case. A lot of people on isyn are extremely distraught by what has happened to this little girl and if it really bothers you that much that people are using this as an outlet to vent their frustration and discuss then STAY OUT OF IT. Find something better to do then sit on isyn all day and complaining about what other people want to talk about.
Lindalou, I see this blog serving multiple purposes. One of which is that it gives us the opportunity to speak our mind. That puts it a cut above the rest. Sorry that you find it not meeting your standards, so since that seems to be such a problem with you lately as I remember this same complaint not too long ago, why don't you go find one that does. And good riddance.
I don't think chloroform has anything to do with what happened to Caylee. I think what happened is that the Mom went swimming with her friends. Remember that the ladder was moved and the grandparents wondered why it was out. And because Casey was drunk or partying, the little girl drowned. And everything else is a cover up.
Also, Linda Lou- Go have a six pack of nutty buddies, you'll feel better.
MPP, funny how you don't consider any of this abuse worthy of your considerable hand slapping skills.
i think people who switch monikers like a bunch of spinless wankers ought to banned. use your known name or shut up already. i'm allowed to find speculation about the fate of a murdered child distasteful, at best. honestly, i think it, and the people engaging in it, are disgusting. go figure.
Lindalou For your information, I've been out for most of the afternoon, so I didn't see any of the comments until now which is why I haven't commented. And no, I don't approve of the negativity, but people throw insults at each other all of the time.... what do you want me to do about it? Unfortunately, you insulted the Blog, so I defended it.
i don't care what you do, MPP. i'm just pointing out that you are biased which is at odds with the post of moderator. if you and jane want to defend and encourage this sort of thing, go right away. i can't stop you from turning your blog in to the online eqivalent of a snuff flim, but i can point out that i find it really sickening and i'm disappointed that you'd be participating.
Lindalou As long as I've been a poster to this Blog I've never engaged in any arguments, and I don't intend to start now. I responded to your comment because it was a personal insult to the Blog... one which I'm very proud to be a part of. Your words were very harsh, and I would have responded the same way if it were anyone else. Thank you.
It is not Bias of a moderator, peoples opinions or even a heated debate that will bring this blog down,pairing it to the equivalent of anything wrong in this world. It is the continued bullying and harrassment of posters with which certain posters disagree with as well as the continued snapping and judgmental remarks.It is the constant childish name calling . It is the nastiness that delivers certain posts and the mean spiritedness with which some participate.It is the lack of sympathy, empathy and an open mind... That my friends is what would bring this blog down,if that were possible.
What I find funny is that you LindaLou will stomp all over every single person in your path of self-righteousness. Yet when someone gives it back you have a complete fit. But in all honesty I think it's fantastic entertainment so keep on being the monster you are.
As sad as this story is, it is real, and it is in the news, with daily updates. We are given pieces of evidence and of course are all going to form our own opinions and our own conclusions. Why not share those? Is that any different from the media interviewing countless people for their "expert" thoughts? I had never thought of chloroform being used to make the child sleep. I personally don't think that is what happened but I enjoy being given different point of views from this blog.
Yes, this is like a giant game of clue but what has happened has happened and the people want answers. We are trying to find them ourselves and share with others.
Personally I think it would be more of a tragedy LindaLou to not speak of this child and let this story fall from popularity and quickly be forgotten from a busy minds. Instead we are thinking about this child daily.
Honestly, who wasn't entertained with the legal questions of the OJ Case? The Lacey Peterson case? Elizabeth Smart? Etc. It is suspenseful and we all want to know the ending. No harm there. The end has happened, we just don't know what it was yet.
Linda Lou, A snuff film? Are you out of your mind? Why do you think one child- of all the missing children in the world is on every news station in print and television? People are fascinated. People have theories. But yes, I suppose we could pretend that we are not interested and we don't have theories. What does that make us?
I think Lucy has it right. The parents said they had given Casey a deadline to move out with Caylee. They were tired of both of them living there. I'm seeing the boyfriend saying Casey can come over, but not the baby. There is an element of anger here. Since Casey's parents were throwing them out, Casey had no choice but to drug the child and leave her in the trunk. If the grandmother had done her job, she wouldn't have had to resort to this. It's a sick pathology, which may be why there seems to be no remorse. She borrowed a shovel and gasoline. I think she has burned and buried the body. She knows if she keeps her mouth shut, it's going to be hard to convict her. The heat has degraded whatever evidence was in the car, and she knows it. It seems to be an accident, caused by stupidity, and soooooooooo sad.
"BTW how the hell do I fix it so some shithead with too much time on their hands can't try to be me...?" - 11:30 PM
Mimi Unfortunately, there's not much we can do. Most people know you, and what your views are. If you see someone impersonating you, and we don't catch it.... just let us know, o.k.? :) Sorry that happened to you.
My theory is very dark (as if this case could become any darker). I posted it a few weeks ago on my blog, but if anyone is interested, here it is.
Theory, just theory, nothing else:
If all evidence points to a dead body in the trunk, I think it's safe to say that we can all agree on this: the scenario is disturbing. When a mother is accused of killing her own child, it's seriously disturbing. It's something that we can not comprehend. Thus far, I can not comprehend the actions of this family. I keep pointing towards the fear, discomfort and abormality in the Anthony family, because I find it just as disturbing as this whole case. Instead of beating around the bush, I might as well just come out and share another theory. This theory is really horrific and disturbing and uhh, to be honest, I feel awkward posting it. It has, however, crossed my mind several times. I haven't seen the theory tossed out there on other blogs, so I'm just tossing it into the wind.
Many children that are abused (adults too) tend to live fictional lives. They lie a lot. They make up stories. Their imaginary life is something they secretly desire. It's an easy escape from their abuse. As these children grow, their lies grow too. Their imaginary friends become more complex. When they finally accept that their imaginary friends and stories can not save them from their abusive situation, the lies become more elaborate: $15,000 is a better band-aid than an imaginary boyfriend that happens to be deceased--he's not in a position to save anyone. The friends that have been gathered throughout an abusive childhood hinder the abused person's ability to make new friends, thus the abused child excludes the old friends from their adult lives--otherwise there's a risk of everyone finding out that they're a habitual liar that lives in a dream world.
So, with all of that said, I'm seriously wondering if sexual abuse occured in the home. I wonder if the baby's daddy is unknown because the child was fathered by a family member. They point to a dead guy as the father because it's the best cover up. It's an "easy fix." The family portrait still hangs proudly on the wall because the child isn't from an unknown sperm donor, she's from "a man that passed away."
If any kind of sexual abuse did occur in the home, the situation has probably been going on for years, since Casey was young. Perhaps Cindy knew all along, or maybe she had a hunch. Maybe she even thought about taking Casey and leaving George at one point (Cindy Anthony rented an apartment at Pine View Apartments in 2002--she defaulted on her rent. Casey would have been 16). Perhaps she was reassured that "it" wouldn't happen again. Then, 2 1/2 years later, Casey got pregnant. Cindy, putting the pieces together in her mind, started her own 'don't ask don't tell campaign.' No, the baby could not be shipped off somewhere else, Casey would raise the child. It was 'their problem' and they would handle it on their own. They would figure out a way to keep the secret in the closet. Caylee would never know. They would later tell her that her father died in a car crash. Who would know? They would continue with their lives as if nothing happened--but the plan failed.
Instead of placing blame on her husband, Cindy began to place blame on her daughter and herself. Maybe a 'switch flipped' in her brain: she did little, if anything, to protect her daughter over the years, so she went to the other extreme once Caylee was born: over-protective, controlling, mother. Realizing that Casey had been robbed of her childhood (in more ways than one), she encouraged her to take advantage of what was left of her youth. This also gave Cindy the ability to act as a protective and loving maternal figure to her grandchild--a job she failed at with her own daughter.
George, tired of the charade and Cindy's new controlling demeanor, looks for an escape (gambling, cheating, whatever). Cindy confides in her children and paints herself as a martyr for standing beside her husband throughout the years, for better or worse. Casey empathizes with her mother; as she too has been hurt by George. Their bond becomes stronger than ever. Horrified, George looks for an escape route. He hums "auld lang syne" on December 29, 2005 while he's filing for a divorce.
Over the course of the next couple of years, "the child" is used as ammunition by Cindy Anthony. I will tell about that "child thing," she may have threatened George. After all, if George leaves, the perfect couple--with 2.5 children--will no longer look perfect. As a man that prides himself on his exterior "do-good" reputation, George stays, for fear this his dirty deeds will be revealed.
Disgusted with her mother's controlling ways and fearing her father's perversions, Casey leaves permanently--into her own little world. Her brother, tired of the family circus, checks out too--occasionally dropping in for a family dinner, to do laundry, or watch a football game on a Monday night. Cindy blames George, "we lost our son, because of you." While Casey develops an unnatural obsession with her brother, emailing him, phoning him, and sending him comments on Social Network sites 3-4 times per day, she migrates to a fantasy world: sending herself emails from imaginary co-workers from the job she was too unstable to hold. Desperate for an escape from her situation, she secretly wishes that her child was never born. Every time she looks at the baby, she feels hatred towards her father and sorrow that her life amounted to so little. However, her imaginary life makes her feel better. It also provides her with something to talk about, other than her baby--something that her friends without children and responsabilities have grown tired of hearing about.
In order to perpetuate the imaginary lifestyle, Casey begins stealing money. She rips friends and family members off to conceal the fact that she can not hold a job. She sheds tears over the damaged foundation of her parents' marriage, yet boasts that she is stable: she can balance her social life, job, and motherhood--all while living under the roof of a 'crazy house.' She has overcome the death of Caylee's father, banked $15,000, she's a woman with ambition. Nothing stands in her way; except reality.
Unable to escape her past and the demons that plague her, she wears a mask for every occasion: whatever suits the mood. She poses for photographs, acts as the doting mother, the care free girlfriend, the child that needs a mommy, the sister that needs advice, etc. Although she has grown quite fond of her faux persona, she hates the person beneath the surface. It would be so easy to run away, to become the person she claimed she was...if only...she didn't have to see herself in the reflection of her child's eyes. Ah, but when the child is sleeping peacefully, isn't life beautiful?
Cindy, fully aware of her daughter's apetite for a different kind of life, encourages her daughter to go off on her own. At first, Casey is delighted. Now she can make plans with her boyfriend. She can encourage him to get out of his lease. They can get an apartment together. Suddenly, Casey's dreams are shattered when Cindy tells her that the past is behind them. George and Cindy have decided to give love another shot--without the reminders of past 'mistakes.' Casey has to take Caylee with her.
Enraged, Casey places Caylee in the car seat. She throws the car in reverse and backs out of the driveway like a bat out of hell. While changing lanes, Casey continuously glances into the rearview mirror. As she glances at her baby, she hears her mothers words 'the child,' as if Caylee were the spawn of the devil himself. Perhaps 'the child' was a mistake. Perhaps the only rememdy was to erase the mistake. If someone were to kidnap the baby, she'd be gone. Not only would Casey be able to continue with her life, but she'd be able to remove all traces of her own father--she would never see him again--not in person, not in the eyes of her child; which acted as double pane glass; reflecting 2 people: a woman who has it all together; and a woman that's about to remove the 'bad part' of herself from the world.
It would be much easier to plan an orchestrated abduction than to admit the truth. Even if the plan failed miserably, what is left to lose? It would be easier to remain silent, as she had done all these years, than admit to anything: shame, guilt or remorse. If she thought about it from a third-party point of view, she could perform the act. Just pick a name, pick a name Casey. You're good at this. Pretend you're someone else. Name a person. That's who did it...Zenaida. Yeah, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. She took Caylee. She did this.
__________ Note: A few days ago, Leonard Padilla suggested that he suspected incest in the family--leading to inconclusive DNA.
Wow. Attack on LindaLou. I don't think this thread is at all distasteful, but why did everyone jump down LL's throat?
Fraggle, you should write a book. Interesting theory. If not a book, pitch that to Lifetime. Oooh or maybe Law & Order SVU. I'd love to see Christopher Meloni crack this case.
Jersey I think it's more that lindalou asks for it. She never knows when to keep her mouth shut. Thirteen people, or however many it is on this thread giving her a piece of their mind, can't all be wrong.
Anyway, on to Fraggle. I will have to agree with jersey here. You have a very creative mind and should write a book. I mean, this thread is all about everyone giving their opinion on what they think happened, and I've read dozens of theories from this blog and many others, but have never came across one like yours! If your suggesting there was incest, you're not making clear who it is was with. I thought you were suggesting it was George, but then the link you gave to that article suggests it could be Lee. Far fetched? who knows. I would think anything is possible with this family. They are the cream of the crop of nuts, that's for sure. However, I do think Casey just decided one day her life would be better w/o Caylee and she probably used that chloroform to kill her. News reports suggest that she had Caylee's body in the trunk of her car for a couple of days after first burying her, then digging her back up. Ultimately, the dumpster where she abandoned her car is most likely the little girls final resting place.
What I have noticed is when people get "attacked" here-be it LindaLou or other "unpopular" posters it seems to be one or two regulars with a bunch of unknown monikers chiming in with support.
I am less inclined to think that a dozen or more noobs suddenly decided to post all at once and more inclined to think that it's one or two people posting under digfferent names, but that' just my opinion and theory.
9:37-I highly doubt that it is the same person posting and posting again. LindaLou has insulted and annoyed a lot of people on here. If you look back to all of her postings not one is nice, thoughtful or helpful. They are basically all being a know-it-all, confrontational and just plain rude. And also I would not consider LindaLou to ever have been attacked. People just get sick of her nonsense. She can dish it out but boy she can't take it!
You said it nannyinmanhattan. Unome, you seem very reasonable, so please don't believe that just one or two posters had nothing else better to do than write negative diatribes about Lindalou. She has insulted way too many people for that to be possible. Now I'm not going to come on here and do it, but I'm just sayin'. There was a time long ago that she even attacked me - it was something minor, but still, not nice. However, I will disagree also that she's never put up a thoughtful post. There's been one or two where I (gasp!) even admired something she wrote, but those kind of comments are too few and far between, though. (Long time, no see chick!:))BTW, where the hell has Sprak been?
My biggest challenge is not being able to write what I really think about some of the things that a couple of my co-workers have done over the years. Some of them read my blog on occasion and I am currently back to work contracting in the same department. I would really like to vent my frustrations in my blog, but it’s not appropriate for me to do that right now. Of course I would never identify any individual by name, but my group is so small and our field is so specialized that anyone from that group would be able to identify who I was talking about. I guess my plan to get past it is to just save it up and perhaps write something on it later on when all of the parties involved have retired and moved on.
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The hard partying mom was using chloroform to knock her daughter out so she could leave her asleep in the car and party and have sex with trains of men. The overuse of chloroform caused caused a fatal cardiac arrhythmia in Caylee analogous to what is now termed "sudden sniffer's death". Casey could not admit what she had done to her parents, so she concocted a story (Only when pressed to know what happend to Caylee) and burned and buried the child's body. The grandparents are so grief stricken that it is easier to believe their psychopath daughter than face the facts that their precious grandchild that they doted on is not only dead, but dead at the hands of their own daughter.
this thread is really distatseful.
Lucy
That's exactly what I believe happened.
Lindalou
Everyone has their own theory as to what happened and this Thread is just a sounding board for those that want to put it out there.
All of the Websites and Blogs about this Case can attest to that. If you don't like this thread, then just skip over it please.
lets be pc correct and pretend we dont have our own opinions about what happened.
Lindalou, how is this distasteful??? Having a discussion on our theories is not in any way shape or form distasteful. You are always just difficult! Go breastfeed your 3 year old and skip over posts that you dont like?
PC? and what? pretend it never happened? We're only human. Of course we want to know all the whys and hows. Maybe because it is hard for a normal person to understand how a mother could be so cold and callous.
Casey is the most unfeeling person I think I've ever seen that they've shown in the media after losing a child - she is nothing short of a sociopath.
I don't think there's anything wrong in putting that up for debate. On CNN I've read a lot of the comments after a story on her and you wouldn't believe some of the opinions these people have of her. People are enraged - did you see the video of the fight in front of the Anthony's home with the protesters? People need an outlet.
I was just going to say the same thing notolerance. Since when did lindalou get to be judge and jury and decide what was ok for us to read around here? Always bitchin' about something.
This was no accident! You use a sleeping pill to put a child to sleeep and party, and chloroform to kill her.
BESIDES, granny practically raised the little girl. I'm sure she would have happily babysat for weeks on end if asked. There was no logical reason to chloroform her and lock her in a trunk to get free time. Maybe Casey wanted to kill her painlessly? Or quietly? Or without mess?
You know what disagree, I hadn't thought of it that way. You're probably right.
Well if anyone read the investigative discovery site the man running the blog is out there helping in the search effort. He said something today that pretty much gave it all away. The Anthony's have refused to give Eqqusearch a piece of Caylee's clothing so the dogs can hopefully find Caylee's body.
Keep in mind the grandmother asked Eqqusearch to look for her granddaughter in the first place...
I think the mother killed her, and finally came clean to the parents who then helped her dispose of Caylee's body.
LindaLou I find your posts distasteful at times what the dif?
lindalou, I find your comments about mother's who don't breastfeed to be distasteful......
fine. if you thinks it's good entertainment to treat the murder of a child like a game of Clue, you go ahead and have fun hashing out your theories and i'll go on thinking this thread is distasteful and way below the normal standards of this blog.
lindalou if this discussion is so distasteful then why do you insist on coming and commenting about it? Why don't you just stay out of it? There is nothing wrong with discussing a case. A lot of people on isyn are extremely distraught by what has happened to this little girl and if it really bothers you that much that people are using this as an outlet to vent their frustration and discuss then STAY OUT OF IT. Find something better to do then sit on isyn all day and complaining about what other people want to talk about.
Lindalou, will you please just stfu already? You are such an ass.
Regardless of the fate of the child, I hope justice is carried out appropriately.
I tire of hearing of mothers who do things to their children and then get a light slap over the wrist for their actions.
Lindalou, I see this blog serving multiple purposes. One of which is that it gives us the opportunity to speak our mind. That puts it a cut above the rest. Sorry that you find it not meeting your standards, so since that seems to be such a problem with you lately as I remember this same complaint not too long ago, why don't you go find one that does. And good riddance.
I don't think chloroform has anything to do with what happened to Caylee. I think what happened is that the Mom went swimming with her friends. Remember that the ladder was moved and the grandparents wondered why it was out. And because Casey was drunk or partying, the little girl drowned. And everything else is a cover up.
Also, Linda Lou- Go have a six pack of nutty buddies, you'll feel better.
nutty buddies?!..hehehe!those are good!LMAO!
Hey Mpp--is there any way for you to block people on this blog?? Lindalou contributes nothing but nastiness to this blog so I was just wondering...
MPP, funny how you don't consider any of this abuse worthy of your considerable hand slapping skills.
i think people who switch monikers like a bunch of spinless wankers ought to banned. use your known name or shut up already. i'm allowed to find speculation about the fate of a murdered child distasteful, at best. honestly, i think it, and the people engaging in it, are disgusting. go figure.
Lindalou
For your information, I've been out for most of the afternoon, so I didn't see any of the comments until now which is why I haven't commented.
And no, I don't approve of the negativity, but people throw insults at each other all of the time.... what do you want me to do about it? Unfortunately, you insulted the Blog, so I defended it.
i don't care what you do, MPP. i'm just pointing out that you are biased which is at odds with the post of moderator. if you and jane want to defend and encourage this sort of thing, go right away. i can't stop you from turning your blog in to the online eqivalent of a snuff flim, but i can point out that i find it really sickening and i'm disappointed that you'd be participating.
Lindalou
As long as I've been a poster to this Blog I've never engaged in any arguments, and I don't intend to start now.
I responded to your comment because it was a personal insult to the Blog... one which I'm very proud to be a part of.
Your words were very harsh, and I would have responded the same way if it were anyone else.
Thank you.
It is not Bias of a moderator, peoples opinions or even a heated debate that will bring this blog down,pairing it to the equivalent of anything wrong in this world. It is the continued bullying and harrassment of posters with which certain posters disagree with as well as the continued snapping and judgmental remarks.It is the constant childish name calling .
It is the nastiness that delivers certain posts and the mean spiritedness with which some participate.It is the lack of sympathy, empathy and an open mind...
That my friends is what would bring this blog down,if that were possible.
LindaLou you're a pretentious piece of snot. Karma will get your ass. Sad for you.
What I find funny is that you LindaLou will stomp all over every single person in your path of self-righteousness. Yet when someone gives it back you have a complete fit. But in all honesty I think it's fantastic entertainment so keep on being the monster you are.
mimi,
that's because you probably ARE linda lou.
As sad as this story is, it is real, and it is in the news, with daily updates. We are given pieces of evidence and of course are all going to form our own opinions and our own conclusions. Why not share those? Is that any different from the media interviewing countless people for their "expert" thoughts? I had never thought of chloroform being used to make the child sleep. I personally don't think that is what happened but I enjoy being given different point of views from this blog.
Yes, this is like a giant game of clue but what has happened has happened and the people want answers. We are trying to find them ourselves and share with others.
Personally I think it would be more of a tragedy LindaLou to not speak of this child and let this story fall from popularity and quickly be forgotten from a busy minds. Instead we are thinking about this child daily.
Honestly, who wasn't entertained with the legal questions of the OJ Case? The Lacey Peterson case? Elizabeth Smart? Etc. It is suspenseful and we all want to know the ending. No harm there. The end has happened, we just don't know what it was yet.
WHOA WHOA WHOA..this is the REAL mimi...that was NOT me...NOT me at all...thats some shit some one is impersonating me...WTF!!!!
you all better know I would not have any problem with this...I freaking hate casey..she killed that baby...I hope she burns..
BTW how the hell do I fix it so some shithead with too much time on their hands can't try to be me...?
Linda Lou,
A snuff film? Are you out of your mind? Why do you think one child- of all the missing children in the world is on every news station in print and television? People are fascinated. People have theories. But yes, I suppose we could pretend that we are not interested and we don't have theories. What does that make us?
I mean besides goose stepping nazis.
I think Lucy has it right. The parents said they had given Casey a deadline to move out with Caylee. They were tired of both of them living there. I'm seeing the boyfriend saying Casey can come over, but not the baby. There is an element of anger here. Since Casey's parents were throwing them out, Casey had no choice but to drug the child and leave her in the trunk. If the grandmother had done her job, she wouldn't have had to resort to this. It's a sick pathology, which may be why there seems to be no remorse. She borrowed a shovel and gasoline. I think she has burned and buried the body. She knows if she keeps her mouth shut, it's going to be hard to convict her. The heat has degraded whatever evidence was in the car, and she knows it. It seems to be an accident, caused by stupidity, and soooooooooo sad.
10:26 PM
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"BTW how the hell do I fix it so some shithead with too much time on their hands can't try to be me...?"
- 11:30 PM
Mimi
Unfortunately, there's not much we can do. Most people know you, and what your views are. If you see someone impersonating you, and we don't catch it.... just let us know, o.k.? :)
Sorry that happened to you.
My theory is very dark (as if this case could become any darker). I posted it a few weeks ago on my blog, but if anyone is interested, here it is.
Theory, just theory, nothing else:
If all evidence points to a dead body in the trunk, I think it's safe to say that we can all agree on this: the scenario is disturbing. When a mother is accused of killing her own child, it's seriously disturbing. It's something that we can not comprehend. Thus far, I can not comprehend the actions of this family. I keep pointing towards the fear, discomfort and abormality in the Anthony family, because I find it just as disturbing as this whole case. Instead of beating around the bush, I might as well just come out and share another theory. This theory is really horrific and disturbing and uhh, to be honest, I feel awkward posting it. It has, however, crossed my mind several times. I haven't seen the theory tossed out there on other blogs, so I'm just tossing it into the wind.
Many children that are abused (adults too) tend to live fictional lives. They lie a lot. They make up stories. Their imaginary life is something they secretly desire. It's an easy escape from their abuse. As these children grow, their lies grow too. Their imaginary friends become more complex. When they finally accept that their imaginary friends and stories can not save them from their abusive situation, the lies become more elaborate: $15,000 is a better band-aid than an imaginary boyfriend that happens to be deceased--he's not in a position to save anyone. The friends that have been gathered throughout an abusive childhood hinder the abused person's ability to make new friends, thus the abused child excludes the old friends from their adult lives--otherwise there's a risk of everyone finding out that they're a habitual liar that lives in a dream world.
So, with all of that said, I'm seriously wondering if sexual abuse occured in the home. I wonder if the baby's daddy is unknown because the child was fathered by a family member. They point to a dead guy as the father because it's the best cover up. It's an "easy fix." The family portrait still hangs proudly on the wall because the child isn't from an unknown sperm donor, she's from "a man that passed away."
If any kind of sexual abuse did occur in the home, the situation has probably been going on for years, since Casey was young. Perhaps Cindy knew all along, or maybe she had a hunch. Maybe she even thought about taking Casey and leaving George at one point (Cindy Anthony rented an apartment at Pine View Apartments in 2002--she defaulted on her rent. Casey would have been 16). Perhaps she was reassured that "it" wouldn't happen again. Then, 2 1/2 years later, Casey got pregnant. Cindy, putting the pieces together in her mind, started her own 'don't ask don't tell campaign.' No, the baby could not be shipped off somewhere else, Casey would raise the child. It was 'their problem' and they would handle it on their own. They would figure out a way to keep the secret in the closet. Caylee would never know. They would later tell her that her father died in a car crash. Who would know? They would continue with their lives as if nothing happened--but the plan failed.
Instead of placing blame on her husband, Cindy began to place blame on her daughter and herself. Maybe a 'switch flipped' in her brain: she did little, if anything, to protect her daughter over the years, so she went to the other extreme once Caylee was born: over-protective, controlling, mother. Realizing that Casey had been robbed of her childhood (in more ways than one), she encouraged her to take advantage of what was left of her youth. This also gave Cindy the ability to act as a protective and loving maternal figure to her grandchild--a job she failed at with her own daughter.
George, tired of the charade and Cindy's new controlling demeanor, looks for an escape (gambling, cheating, whatever). Cindy confides in her children and paints herself as a martyr for standing beside her husband throughout the years, for better or worse. Casey empathizes with her mother; as she too has been hurt by George. Their bond becomes stronger than ever. Horrified, George looks for an escape route. He hums "auld lang syne" on December 29, 2005 while he's filing for a divorce.
Over the course of the next couple of years, "the child" is used as ammunition by Cindy Anthony. I will tell about that "child thing," she may have threatened George. After all, if George leaves, the perfect couple--with 2.5 children--will no longer look perfect. As a man that prides himself on his exterior "do-good" reputation, George stays, for fear this his dirty deeds will be revealed.
Disgusted with her mother's controlling ways and fearing her father's perversions, Casey leaves permanently--into her own little world. Her brother, tired of the family circus, checks out too--occasionally dropping in for a family dinner, to do laundry, or watch a football game on a Monday night. Cindy blames George, "we lost our son, because of you." While Casey develops an unnatural obsession with her brother, emailing him, phoning him, and sending him comments on Social Network sites 3-4 times per day, she migrates to a fantasy world: sending herself emails from imaginary co-workers from the job she was too unstable to hold. Desperate for an escape from her situation, she secretly wishes that her child was never born. Every time she looks at the baby, she feels hatred towards her father and sorrow that her life amounted to so little. However, her imaginary life makes her feel better. It also provides her with something to talk about, other than her baby--something that her friends without children and responsabilities have grown tired of hearing about.
In order to perpetuate the imaginary lifestyle, Casey begins stealing money. She rips friends and family members off to conceal the fact that she can not hold a job. She sheds tears over the damaged foundation of her parents' marriage, yet boasts that she is stable: she can balance her social life, job, and motherhood--all while living under the roof of a 'crazy house.' She has overcome the death of Caylee's father, banked $15,000, she's a woman with ambition. Nothing stands in her way; except reality.
Unable to escape her past and the demons that plague her, she wears a mask for every occasion: whatever suits the mood. She poses for photographs, acts as the doting mother, the care free girlfriend, the child that needs a mommy, the sister that needs advice, etc. Although she has grown quite fond of her faux persona, she hates the person beneath the surface. It would be so easy to run away, to become the person she claimed she was...if only...she didn't have to see herself in the reflection of her child's eyes. Ah, but when the child is sleeping peacefully, isn't life beautiful?
Cindy, fully aware of her daughter's apetite for a different kind of life, encourages her daughter to go off on her own. At first, Casey is delighted. Now she can make plans with her boyfriend. She can encourage him to get out of his lease. They can get an apartment together. Suddenly, Casey's dreams are shattered when Cindy tells her that the past is behind them. George and Cindy have decided to give love another shot--without the reminders of past 'mistakes.' Casey has to take Caylee with her.
Enraged, Casey places Caylee in the car seat. She throws the car in reverse and backs out of the driveway like a bat out of hell. While changing lanes, Casey continuously glances into the rearview mirror. As she glances at her baby, she hears her mothers words 'the child,' as if Caylee were the spawn of the devil himself. Perhaps 'the child' was a mistake. Perhaps the only rememdy was to erase the mistake. If someone were to kidnap the baby, she'd be gone. Not only would Casey be able to continue with her life, but she'd be able to remove all traces of her own father--she would never see him again--not in person, not in the eyes of her child; which acted as double pane glass; reflecting 2 people: a woman who has it all together; and a woman that's about to remove the 'bad part' of herself from the world.
It would be much easier to plan an orchestrated abduction than to admit the truth. Even if the plan failed miserably, what is left to lose? It would be easier to remain silent, as she had done all these years, than admit to anything: shame, guilt or remorse. If she thought about it from a third-party point of view, she could perform the act. Just pick a name, pick a name Casey. You're good at this. Pretend you're someone else. Name a person. That's who did it...Zenaida. Yeah, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. She took Caylee. She did this.
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Note: A few days ago, Leonard Padilla suggested that he suspected incest in the family--leading to inconclusive DNA.
Source: http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759)
Wow. Attack on LindaLou.
I don't think this thread is at all distasteful, but why did everyone jump down LL's throat?
Fraggle, you should write a book. Interesting theory. If not a book, pitch that to Lifetime. Oooh or maybe Law & Order SVU. I'd love to see Christopher Meloni crack this case.
....talk about distasteful :-/
Jersey
I think it's more that lindalou asks for it. She never knows when to keep her mouth shut. Thirteen people, or however many it is on this thread giving her a piece of their mind, can't all be wrong.
Anyway, on to Fraggle. I will have to agree with jersey here. You have a very creative mind and should write a book. I mean, this thread is all about everyone giving their opinion on what they think happened, and I've read dozens of theories from this blog and many others, but have never came across one like yours!
If your suggesting there was incest, you're not making clear who it is was with. I thought you were suggesting it was George, but then the link you gave to that article suggests it could be Lee.
Far fetched? who knows. I would think anything is possible with this family. They are the cream of the crop of nuts, that's for sure.
However, I do think Casey just decided one day her life would be better w/o Caylee and she probably used that chloroform to kill her. News reports suggest that she had Caylee's body in the trunk of her car for a couple of days after first burying her, then digging her back up. Ultimately, the dumpster where she abandoned her car is most likely the little girls final resting place.
What I have noticed is when people get "attacked" here-be it LindaLou or other "unpopular" posters it seems to be one or two regulars with a bunch of unknown monikers chiming in with support.
I am less inclined to think that a dozen or more noobs suddenly decided to post all at once and more inclined to think that it's one or two people posting under digfferent names, but that' just my opinion and theory.
9:37-I highly doubt that it is the same person posting and posting again. LindaLou has insulted and annoyed a lot of people on here. If you look back to all of her postings not one is nice, thoughtful or helpful. They are basically all being a know-it-all, confrontational and just plain rude. And also I would not consider LindaLou to ever have been attacked. People just get sick of her nonsense. She can dish it out but boy she can't take it!
While I have had issues with LL in the past, I have to protest the idea that she has never posted in a "nice, thoughtful or helpful" way.
If you look at the "When can kids stay home alone" post, LL was very kind to 'phoenix'.
And here, she was absolutely attacked after posting a brusque comment.
So, let's draw in the claws ladies. Please? It's just silly to waste energy on LL when other stuff that's more imprtant is all around us.
FTR, I think Casey is a sociopath who killed Caylee out of irritation. I also think
You said it nannyinmanhattan. Unome, you seem very reasonable, so please don't believe that just one or two posters had nothing else better to do than write negative diatribes about Lindalou. She has insulted way too many people for that to be possible. Now I'm not going to come on here and do it, but I'm just sayin'. There was a time long ago that she even attacked me - it was something minor, but still, not nice.
However, I will disagree also that she's never put up a thoughtful post. There's been one or two where I (gasp!) even admired something she wrote, but those kind of comments are too few and far between, though.
(Long time, no see chick!:))BTW, where the hell has Sprak been?
My biggest challenge is not being able to write what I really think about some of the things that a couple of my co-workers have done over the years. Some of them read my blog on occasion and I am currently back to work contracting in the same department. I would really like to vent my frustrations in my blog, but it’s not appropriate for me to do that right now. Of course I would never identify any individual by name, but my group is so small and our field is so specialized that anyone from that group would be able to identify who I was talking about. I guess my plan to get past it is to just save it up and perhaps write something on it later on when all of the parties involved have retired and moved on.
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