19 March, 2008

Underdressed Children...

Received Wednesday, March 19, 2008-Rant
What I really want to know is why when it is 36 degrees outside and your child has a death rattle of a cough and a snotty nose he/she is not wearing a coat, mittens or hat???!!!!
I was at the post office today and saw a little girl of 5 or so with her mother. She only had on a velour sweat suit with a zip up hoodie! She was coughing and sniffling! No hat, no gloves/mittens/no winter coat! Today's high was around 40 but felt much much colder. It was her MOTHER with her! I then went to the market and saw the same thing with a little boy. He again was with his mother and coughing with a deep chest cough and was wearing no coat only a long sleeve shirt. Even if you're only going from the house to the car and from car to your destination it's still COLD and a child who is sick can get chilled so easily. The boy in the market was shivering in the cart.
I don't know about anyone else but as a caregiver this infuriates me.

89 comments:

LindaLou said...

i'm sure our whole family is often undressed for your taste. we're pretty hot blooded and don't feel the cold. often my three year old will refuse to wear his heavy coat so we just carry it in the car with us. viruses and bacteria cause illness. the cold does not. it's all relative anyway. my parents live in a hot climate and whenever they visit us, they are convinced the children must be freezing, even when to us, it's warm enough to wear shorts and open all the windows.

cali mom said...

OP, I do see your point, but there are times when it's pretty near impossible to get a young child to wear something they are determined NOT to wear. At that age they know how to take it off and throw it across the room, into the middle of the street, onto the sidewalk, wherever they want to throw it, and sometimes it's either stay home all day or choose a different battle. Of course the caregiver SHOULD carry the warm things so they are available if the child decides they want to be warmer but it's like they say about horses and water.

Anonymous said...

Parents have a lot more latitude in how they treat their child, than the nanny, in my opinion. I'm frequently running out with my 18 month old daughter in a onesie in the morning to take the dog for a quick pee, etc. Would my wife do it? No. Does my doorman give me a tsk-tsk? Yes. But whatever, 1 minute in the cold isn't going to kill her, and ultimately, I'm confident I'm a good dad even.

erics mom said...

In these situations a child shouldn't get a choice. I mean if it is that cold, tough you make them wear their jacket. If they fight it or take it off, then refuse to take them out.
Okay, so you won't wear your coat, then we are not going to the playdate, or Chuckie Cheese, or the mall, etc etc. A five year old will be able to understand this.

LindaLou said...

eric's mom,
you are entitled to you opinion, but i don't parent like that. i'm not going to be held hostage and not do my grocery shopping over a recalcitrant toddler, and older kids know whether they are cold or not. i pick my battles and those battles are over things like kindness, respect, responsibility, honesty, consideration, and ethics, not coats.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is 8 now and I never understood a parent who says what their child will or will not do. "yes I know it's 20 degrees outside, but she really wanted to wear the princess dress" or "I just ended up letting him wear the same shirt to school for 5 days because he really wanted to". If it is cold outside and you need to go out, then it is your responsibilty to make sure that the child is bundled up. After all, you are the parent teaching the child and not the other way around. Some parents need to get a little back bone. If a kid sees that throwing a fit will get them what they want, then guess what, they will continue to throw a fit. Nip it in the bud early and you won't have to worry about it later.

Anonymous said...

The posters on here are so hilarious! Let this have been a nanny sighting and you all would have been screaming bloody murder for this awful nanny who needs to be fired and hung outside in her underwear. But because it's a mother, everyone hear can all of a sudden relate. That is just really funny. Either the behavior is exceptable or it isn't.

Non de Plume said...

I think the point the poster was making is that the child is sick and yes, cold does make the virus worse. It doesn't take rocket science to realize that when you have a virus you feel better when you're warmer.

Anonymous said...

I have often heard the lament about not getting kids to do/wear/leave what and when the parents want. Luckily I had no such isssues with my very willful daughter because she quickly learned mommy does not bargain/bribe/cajole/beg or make idle threats. Luckily, she learned fast that thowing a fit made us BOTH stay in the WHOLE day. Which meant she didn't get to do anything she might have liked either. She also learned tantrums made us leave immediately wherever we were, regardless of how long it took to get there or how long we waited to go. And refusing to leave the park or other fun place resulted in not returning for a very long time. Luckily, I only had to provide these harsh lessons a handful of times while she was very young so she learned what mommy says goes! When she was younger, she was always dressed appropriately for the weather, now,she never rides her bike or skates without her helmet and safety gear and we are absolutely thrilled with the constant compliments about her good manners and compliant responses when we say it's time to go, or no, I'm sorry that outfit is inappropriate.

As to the OP's rant, I also can't stand to see babies barefoot, in a diper and/or t-shirt only in a shopping mall or store in the middle of summer with the air conditioning going full blast.

Anonymous said...

As a teacher, this infuriates me to no end. It seems that many parents think that because their kids run from the front door to the bus, then from the bus to school, that a sweatshirt is enough protection on a 40-degree day. It's not. These are the kids who must sit inside during outdoor recess because they're not wearing a coat. These are the kids, who insist they're warm and do go out, are attached to a teacher's leg after 5 minutes, saying they're cold. It's inexcusable behavior on the parents part to let their child outside in the cold without the proper protection, whether or not you're "hot blooded" or "he's only outside for 5 minutes" or whatever other silly excuse you can come up with.

Anonymous said...

I pick my fights too and if my grandkids will not wear clothing that are appropiate for the weather then we just stay home. They behave in a eatery or we get the food to go. Children should not be in charge, the adult is in charge. I think this is where the "because I told you so" comes from lol If they do not eat all their broccoli is not a fight that needs to be done, we all have different tastes and one shouldn't have to eat something they really dislike so I would let that go. If you are hacking,and the nose is runing then the kid dresses to keep warm or your butt stays home!
The nanny should have the right to do the same thing as when we are gone she is in control. To me it is down right laziness when people do not take care of their children when they are sick and that is what it amounts to when you let them dress like they are in Florida when it is 30 degrees outside. They then go to school and pass this on to other children
and this is not right.

lindalou said...

this thread has turned completely stupid (although i personally found it stupid from the get go). it seems some just want to argue about anything and everything. there is no moral or disciplinary issue involved with wearing a coat vs. taking it with you and putting it on when you actually feel chilly.

Anonymous said...

You must not have children, to make a statement like you did. And why can't others state their opinion, Linda. We had to read your stupid comment on here. Why can't others post how they feel.

lindalou said...

7:11
your post doesn't make any sense. how am i preventing others from stating their opinions? i don't have that power, nor would i want it.

and i have three healthy children. i haven't lost one to frostbite yet. i just don't get people being on their high horse because they made a child wear a coat instead of throwing it in the car. big whoop!

disney vacation said...

Linda I don't why this post seems to bother you so much....

Why are you taking everything so personal?

LindaLou said...

i'm just calling it like i see it. no bother at all.

Anonymous said...

There was a post some time back in which a nanny was letting her charge run around the park with out a proper coat. I think she was saying to run around to get warmer or something. My mom used to say that too so I defended her. Hardly anyone else did, many attacked. Now all this defense of the mother.....so many hypocrites, some recognizable by name.

Hellcat said...

This bothers me as well. When I took my son to the Santa Claus parade I was shocked to see several newborns-6 month old children in their strollers, wearing nothing but a sleeper. Some even without a blanket. I live in Canada and it was so cold out the night of this parade that we had to leave before we saw Santa. My son was shivering in his big snowsuit, hat, and mittens with a blanket and a cover over his stroller. I wished there was someone to patrol for unfit parents that night.

fox in socks said...

To non de plume, surely you meant "nom de plume" which would mean pen name in French. Just thought you'd want to know how to spell your own moniker.

Hellcat said...

Also- When I was a child I told my mother I would be plenty warm in just a sweater. She dropped me off at the park to play. Within an hour I had been extremely cold, then I didn't feel cold anymore. Some point after that I woke up in the home of a block parent, covered in blankets and soaking wet because I had been asleep in the snow. Just because your kid tells you they are warm and will be fine doesn't mean you should take their word for it.

If you're wondering what happened, the block parent drove me home. My mom was mad that I got into a car with a stranger, but overlooked the fact that I may have had hypothermia. I could write a very interesting book about the way I was brought up haha

cali mom said...

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the obvious "if you don't put your jacket on we are not going to the playground" approach. However, that approach conveniently ignores the outings that are NOT optional like doctor appointments, school, necessary errands, etc. So I'm curious what you people do if you have to get the child to such an appointment and they decide they will remove whatever warm article you thought you could force them to wear faster than you can put it back on them. Stop and have a time out so that you are late to the appointment/school? Spank them?

With a newborn there is no excuse but as soon as a child is capable of removing their own clothing the dilemma begins. In such a case, the caregiver should ALWAYS keep the warm article available so the child can go outside at recess or put it on as soon as they start feeling the cold. And obviously the caregiver should NOT drop off a young child half naked in the snow, ;eaving them to either freeze to death or ride home with a stranger.

Hellcat said...

Hahah yeah.
My mom was a bit.. unconventional.

Anonymous said...

Kids don't have great judgement about things like appropriate clothing for the weather. That is why they have parents!

Anonymous said...

Seriously, I want to puke when I see a parent "reasoning" with a 2 year old.

Anonymous said...

Cali mom
The point is that if you let it go on all the other occassions, you suffer when the situation to leave the house is unavoidable. Every parent has had this battle and its up to the parent how they handle the situation. It happened with my daughter when she was younger and because I didn't reason with her but stayed firm and showed her that she was not in charge, we no longer have that problem. You have to start early or it gets to the point when you feel its easier to not be bothered with it.

Deni said...

I picked up my charge from school yesterday and the first thing she said was, "my dad forgot my hat!" She had a winter coat on and crocs with socks. It was about 38 degrees and very rainy. We had to run into the post office on the way to the library and then home.

If someone saw us they would assume I hadn't dressed her properly- only I didn't dress her!

-----
I have a son as well. A: you do NOT get sick or "sicker" from cold- look it up and B: I too pick my battles and prepare for weather- IE; I have him bring a coat/hat or whatever if he doesn't feel like wearing them. Simple as that.

Anonymous said...

Good catch, Hellcat.

And for those that feel that they have to pick their battles with their kids over winter wear?
Just who is the boss? You or them?


And lindalou
"this thread has turned completely stupid"

If it's so stupid, why do you keep posting on it?

LindaLou said...

11:26
i want to puke when i see a parent hitting or manhandling a 2 year old. so there you go.

Anonymous said...

ummmmmm lindalou,

are you ok? who said anything about manhandling a child? is that the only way you think parents get thier kids to do what is asked of them? you must really have issues.

LindaLou said...

1:00
did you miss the other post? reasoning was out, so yeah, people unwilling to talk to their children because it *makes them puke* are usually the ones accomplishing their goals by force. what terrific parenting. and such pride at *being charge* from people who can't handle a baby and still be kind at the same time. and over coat. i find the whole thing cringeworthy.

Anonymous said...

i find it cringeworthy that you feel thier are only those two choices in the matter. if a person doesn't allow thier child to make the decisions then all of a sudden they have to beat them? come on now, you don't really believe that. parenting doesnt always have to go to the extreme.

Anonymous said...

The comments here just set the women's movement back 50 years.

Do you think men would behave this way?

Anonymous said...

No, because like the guy said earlier, he takes his child out in the freezing cold with a onesie on to walk to dog.

lindalou said...

1;22
you are the one using the word *beat*, not me. seriously: @@.

i have yet to see one single person answer cali mom's question: "So I'm curious what you people do if you have to get the child to such an appointment and they decide they will remove whatever warm article you thought you could force them to wear faster than you can put it back on them. Stop and have a time out so that you are late to the appointment/school? Spank them?"

what i do see if plenty of criticism and snark for those who would simply choose to take the warm coat with them. it's ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

Everyone shut the hell up! Next post!

Anonymous said...

Beat and force LOL The other alternative is to start getting the child ready for an appointment
ahead of time so there is no rush.
If someone cannot get a 2 yr old in a jacket they have some issues.
If I had that problem , I would produce a cookie or cracker to take their minds off of having to wear a jacket and out the door we would go. It is so much easier to just let the kid go without the jacket, who cares if he gets sick because it is just too much trouble for a parent to actually take control of the situation.
I have no idea who told a poster the getting the chills or dragging a kid out side with a cold ,with no coat will not make it worse but for some reason it settles into the bronchial tubes and then the lungs. Our doctor says keep them inside,do not let them get chilled.
I think I would take his word for it before I would take the word
of someone who is too lazy to put a coat on a kid. My sister is a nurse and I mentioned this "hot blooded" thing to her and she says that is because people who are over weight claim they are "hot blooded" when in fact there is no such thing. It is from excess body fat.You are not going to find thin
people who claim to be "hot blooded".

Anonymous said...

LOL!!!!!! I LOVE THAT LAST POST!

Anonymous said...

Lindalou,

Someone under anonymous answered Calimom a long time ago. I think the time was 9:54. You should check that out.

Anonymous said...

I AM a nurse and the ONLY reason Dr's tell people that is because they know worried parents believe it to be true so they say it to pacify them! ZERO basis in fact! The same way SOME Dr's prescribe antibiotics when not needed to pacify annoying patients who insist they need them.

My kids wear coats when they feel cold or feel like it, it's not about being able to "get them to" or not- as they would if I requested/insisted, I just don't find it to be an issue! If you feel cold you will want to be warm- is this really so difficult for you people to understand?

Melissa said...

I weigh 115 pounds and am 5ft9, I'm ALWAYS hot, hate wearing coats, matter a fact it's snowing and 35 degrees today and I am wearing a tank top with a sweater over it- ever outside.

You have no idea what the hell you're talking about- STFU already.

Anonymous said...

Nurse Pract. here- FYI, being in the cold when sick may exacerbate SYMPTOMS, ie: runny nose- but it cannot and does not make you sicker. What century are you harpies from???

LindaLou said...

LOL. i'm 5'11" and weigh 140. i wear a size 8 and i'm always hot. i never used to be this way before i had kids. i think it's hormones.

so many of you are just completely (intentionally?) missing the point. it's not that i *can't* get a child to wear a coat. it's that i don't consdier it important enough to do more than ask, *are you cold? would you like your coat?* if they say no then i throw it in the back of the car.

Anonymous said...

Lets see...I'm 5'7 and weigh almost 300lbs and I'm always cold! My husband on the other hand is 5'8 and weighs 250lbs and he's always hot....So being fat does not mean being warm all the time.

Anonymous said...

That doesnt make any sense. I thought Bears ate a lot of fat to insulate themselves for the winter. So fat people were always hot. Is this a myth? Because my anorexic sister is always cold.

Anonymous said...

PEOPLE are not bears! They don't store fat the same way or for the same reasons- helllooooooooooo??? I guess there are a lot of fat deers? What about all the other animals who live outdoors in cold climate- they are all fat? WTF are you serious? Did you make it past elementry school? I think you only make sense to yourself and other ignorant people.

Anonymous said...

PEOPLE are not bears! They don't store fat the same way or for the same reasons- helllooooooooooo??? I guess there are a lot of fat deers? What about all the other animals who live outdoors in cold climate- they are all fat? WTF are you serious? Did you make it past elementry school? I think you only make sense to yourself and other ignorant people.

Anonymous said...

Chipping in on the getting your kids to dress as you want issue, I agree that there are some options that kids should not feel they are given - like when crossing the street, for instance - but I do not believe that there is one magic recipe to make kids behave the way we want them to, no matter what books or experts say... wouldn't the world be a boring place otherwise (granted, it would be more restful)?

cali mom said...

Um, the problem is not PUTTING a jacket on a 2 year old but getting the child to KEEP it on. Haven't yet seen anoyne explain that one. There was one time, when it was cold (not freezing, but around 50 at the warmets) when my son was about 3 1/2 and he REFUSED to keep his socks and shoes on. I buckled him into the stroller and put them on him one more time and started walking, while he ripped them off and threw them onto the sidewalk a few times. Super glue seemed innapropriate for that use and I didn't happen to have any with me, so my only solution was to tell him no matter where we went he would not be allowed to get out of his stroller or have fun until we got home again. He kicked a blanket off too and it stuck in the stroller wheels. Finally when we met up w/our friends he saw the other boy running and playing and got tired of having to stay in the stroller and THEN decided he'd keep the footwear on.

Anonymous said...

Bears store fat in order to hibernate through the winter when there is no food. They live off the fat, and are very skinny in the spring. The bears in the Bronx Zoo do not hibernate, because they are fed all winter; therefore, they keep their lovely figures year round. Just thought you would all like to know.

OP said...

I understand that bacteria cause viruses but a child who is SICK should be WARM. It's a matter of comfort. Also exposed skin in cold weather can get chapped or damaged especially on windy days. You can't tell me that when you're sick you like being chilled. I know I certainly don't.

cali mom said...

Actually, viruses cause viral illnesses (flus and colds) and bacterias cause infections. Bacterias do NOT "cause" viruses as they are 2 completely different entities. But yes, when someone is sick, it's best if they can stay warm because this will help their body to rest and fight off the illness better. And if someone has a virus and is very weakened, an opportunistic bacteria (like pneumonia) can come along and take hold and make them much sicker.

Anonymous said...

Cali - u are mistaken. If you have a virus or an infection u are more susceptible to either of the other due to a weakened immune system- not because of cold. I have an advanced degree in nursing- I don't know how else to get through to you all so I seriously give up.

PS

If a child (or anyone) is sick with fever they should be kept warm ONLY if they FEEL cold- otherwise you run the risk of dehydration- as happened to me once when my silly myth believing mom (much like you all lmao) INSISTED I stay under the comforter- I was hospitalized after that.

Anonymous said...

Well, I did not say that being cold made anyone susceptible to viruses or bacteria. I said that if a person's body is having to fight to keep warm, they are expending energy which would be better saved by their body for fighting the illness. Obviously, rest helps a sick person get better, unless that also is just some silly myth.

It's also generally well known in this day and age that overheating a person with a fever is a bad thing, and that extra fluids should be given to people with fevers to prevent dehydration. At least I *thought* those things were common knowledge even to people without nursing degrees but maybe I am mistaken about that.

cali mom said...

Hmm, that was me. Not sure why my name didn't show up.

Anonymous said...

There always seems to be someone who has to tell another to STFU.
I am worried that you may actualy be a parent or a Nanny LOL and talk like that in front of your kids. What do you tell them "put the Fkng coat on? "get in the fkng car"? Mother of the year award goes to you LOL

we're going to disney world said...

.... and my kid won't need a coat!
;)

Have a great weekend everybody!

Anonymous said...

"mom" the way you worded that WAS misleading, that nurse was just trying to clear things up - you seem to muddle where ever you go. You opinions are based on knowledge formed from what exactly? Certainly not experience or education in the medical arena- so I suggest you keep your snotty tone to yourself as your opnion does not = fact and the way you express it does = confusion ESPECIALLY to the type of uneducated, uninformed know-it-alls who freqent this board day in and day out.

LindaLou said...

4:47
so, just to confirm your opinion, calling people fat for no reason is a-okay, but a response including an initial that stand for the f-word on adult forum makes you a bad mother... uh huh.

Anonymous said...

"ESPECIALLY to the type of uneducated, uninformed know-it-alls who freqent this board day in and day out."

You mean, like yourself?

freqent?

Been there said...

So what they didn't spell a word correctly. The post still got your attention I am sure. The poster does have a point anonymous at 1:19.

chick said...

An open invite:

Anyone who believes that because they are an adult and therefore IN CHARGE, please do let me know how you would MAKE a 3 yo girl (loving, but stubborn about knowing what SHE wants) put on AND wear a coat because YOU say she must.

Any solution that would lead to tantrums, hysteria, or ME losing MY cool will be dismissed as unrealistic/unacceptable.

TIA!

cali mom said...

Thank you Chick!

1:19, are you confused again between me and "mom"? Were you actually trying to refute something, or just spewing aimlessly?

fg said...

I don't think you should necessarily 'reason' with a two year old, but it's a good idea to 'explain' and then, of course, the decision is up to the adult's.

fg said...

an easy way to tell the difference between Mom and Calimom= the number of words. Mom writes at least twice as much per post. Mom never uses a sentence when a paragraph will do :-) but I love 'em both

Anonymous said...

Actually , Madame Nurse, you are a bit off in your facts. While getting a cold or other exposure to harsh elements cannot make you sick, exposure to extreme cold and dampness may temporaraily lower your bodies natural defenses and if a virus or bacteria is already in your system, it possibly can get a better hold on you thus causing you to react more unfavorably than had you remained warm and dry. In other words, cause you to get sick or sicker than you might have.

Cali-Mom, without beating or screaming at my child I also managed to remain in control. And sorry, a two year old is not to be reasoned with. The way I did it was tell my child, In a calm, firm voice that left no room for negotiation is you have to wear socks and shoes and a jacket. These must remain on. You may pick out whichever socks/shoes/jacket you wish, but they have to stay on. When she pulled them off which she did, I would put them back on and hold them there firmly for a moment, saying only once, in the same calm, firm voice, these must stay on. I would say it only once and not repeat myself. I would also heap praise on her when she left them on. That's how I did it. Then I would immediately divert her attention with a favorite toy, book or whatever depending on the situation and availabilty. I, too, want to puke when i see parents begging and pleading or bribing their kids.

Anonymous said...

BTW, the only truly snarky comments I see here are from Linda Lou and Cali Mon.

anonymous1 said...

is "snarky" a bad thing?

Anonymous said...

9:47 AM
Thank you! At last, the voice of reason.

Anonymous said...

cold and heat and dampness are incapable of surpressing or attacking an immune system.

You people just kill me!

IGNORANT.

Anonymous said...

cold and heat and dampness are incapable of surpressing or attacking an immune system.

You people just kill me!

IGNORANT.

cali mom said...

So, "nurse", you think that fatigue has no effect whatsoever on making the human body more susceptible to viruses and bacteria?

BooUBoreMe said...

cali mom

It looks as though you are ALWAYS on here! Don't you have children to take care of????? I would hope your sad empty life wouldn't effect your "family" - really you sit online DAY and NIGHT! Take a break woman!

There is more to life than typing on those damn keys! I wonder if there is some sort of intervention for people like you? It's seems you are addicted and that's just by what I see on this ONE website!

I'm thinking you are replacing some much needed therapy and medication with this venting of your hostile miserable emotions on the world at large via message boards and blogs. Sad. :(

Anonymous said...

I was thinking the same thing....

Anonymous said...

8:53, another troll.

mom said...

BooUBore me,
That was a silly comment. U just read this whole thread. I don't know how many days it has been going since I just returned from a week's vacation, but all of of Cali mom's posts couldn't have taken more than a half hour to write in total. I'm sure her family survived just fine...and what if...GASP...her little guy was having some daddy time at various points during the weekend?

1:19 Were you talking to me, because I haven't posted all week?

As for the cold, I just happen to be recuperating from pneumonia (painful...I wouldn't wish it on anybody), because I overexerted and did not rest properly when I had a respiratory infection. If your kids are sick, they are best at home rather than dragged around town...and yes, a weakened immune system does leave one vulnerable to complications of an existing illness, or to being infected with a new one. Certainly a blast of cold air isn't going to get any well person sick out of the blue, but being really cold over a prolonged period uses up energy a body that is already weakened (sick, or fighting off an illness) might better use to get well or fight new infections that are trying to take hold. That's where the confusion starts.

As for a kid wearing a coat, I guess i was pretty lucky. We didn't have many clothing wars. I always let my kids dress pretty much how they wanted (within reason) when they were at home or out playing. They changed clothes into any number of costumes or other weird getups all day long. But when we were going out somewhere that was not appropriate for to pirates, superheroes or princesses, I would give them what i wanted them to wear and they pretty much always just complied, as this was just "how it was" at our house. Maybe the lax attitude about dress at home made it less of a power struggle issue for us overall? If somebody didn't want a coat, gloves, whatever (especially sunccreen...what a nightmare) I was able to simply explain that this is what they needed to do, while myself putting the items on them. (No, I didn't beat them or scream at them...they just listened as I put whatever it was on them. I think they learn to know when you are serious and when you are not and they simply don't argue when they realize there is no point.) I did have the issue with my middle son for a while where he took off his socks and shoes every single time we went in the car. I simply gathered them up, put them back on and off we went. I don't know what that was about, but I didn't make a big deal out of it an eventually he stopped. I suppose if he took them off where it was inappropriate to be barefoot, I would have either made him put them back on, or not allowed him to get out and walk or play if he refused.

Perhaps a kid who has a coat at the ready but takes it off is feeling overheated. I suppose keeping it handy but letting them cool dowen for a few momentrs is not that big of a deal. But I wouldn't leave home without one.

See, fg does know what she's talking about! Can you tell us apart yet?

Anonymous said...

Really, 8:53 you are so smart! However, dampness can actually do a great deal of harm. As can extreme cold and heat. People with a variety of health issues are told to avoid extreme temperatures all the time. And dampness can cause bacteria to live and breed in the lungs causing all sorts of nasty types of pneumonia.

lindalou said...

Geeze, mom maybe you should write a book.

Anonymous said...

Lindalou,

There is no rule that requires you to read every post.

Really, nobody knows or cares what you choose to read, or to skip.

cali mom said...

BooUBoreMe grumbled into the mirror...

I'm thinking you are replacing some much needed therapy and medication with this venting of your hostile miserable emotions on the world at large via message boards and blogs. Sad. :(

And cali mom said...priceless!

cali mom said...

Mom, glad you're finally back! Take care of that pneumonia :(

lindalou (the real one) said...

um 11:07 was someone just using my moniker to impersonate me and stir up trouble. i was out with my family.

Anonymous said...

Boouboreme....I gave up and now don't read any of HER posts because of her hostility and miserable emotions. I don't even type out HER moniker, discuss her or reply to anything SHE writes, and a few others have followed suit because they feel the same way. SHE is a sarcastic, arrogant, drama queen with a small army of supporters here, and SHE is best ignored. Just don't read her comments like I do, believe me, you won't be missing anything worthwhile. And you will see, SHE and they likely won't be able to just ignore me because her little band have to have the last word, always, But that's cool. Who am I, to deny their only joy in life.

erics mom said...

8:57

I feel the same way you do. I just skip her posts. Who wants to read sarcastic comments on here. Who needs the stress.

And your right she has her "little gang" of followers.

cali mom said...

*Sigh*. YOU'RE.

Got it?

Metro Nanny said...

cali mom said...
Um, the problem is not PUTTING a jacket on a 2 year old but getting the child to KEEP it on. Haven't yet seen anoyne explain that one. There was one time, when it was cold (not freezing, but around 50 at the warmets) when my son was about 3 1/2 and he REFUSED to keep his socks and shoes on. I buckled him into the stroller and put them on him one more time and started walking, while he ripped them off and threw them onto the sidewalk a few times. Super glue seemed innapropriate for that use and I didn't happen to have any with me, so my only solution was to tell him no matter where we went he would not be allowed to get out of his stroller or have fun until we got home again. He kicked a blanket off too and it stuck in the stroller wheels. Finally when we met up w/our friends he saw the other boy running and playing and got tired of having to stay in the stroller and THEN decided he'd keep the footwear on.

7:23 PM

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anoyne = ANYONE
warmets = WARMEST
innapropriate = inappropriate

I'm sure these were just typos, but since you can't allow the same courtesy and forgiveness for the mistakes of others to slip by, I thought I would make sure you remain as perfect as you think you are!

Anonymous said...

Metro nanny WAY TO GO! You managed to put her in her place without being nasty and just a mild hint of sarcasm.

cali mom said...

Actually I had meant to say that he was 2 1/2, not 3 1/2 so that's another one.

And nice try, but a typo is NOT quite the same as someone who clearly reached adulthood never understanding the difference between your/you're their/they're/there, accept/except, then/than, site/sight, etc. It's especially glaring when the person is TRYING to insult someone and sound smarter than the average bear.

Regularly Anonymous said...

Cali Mom, actually a typo can and is often a typo. People who are reasonably intelligent, even above average, often type here instead of hear or there instead of their or your instead of you're. It involves the brain sometimes working faster than the fingers. And I didn't see the post as an insult so much as someone agreeing with someone else on a sentiment echoed here often and now it seems, some regulars.

My daughter, who is autistic, is of above average intelligence but is a terrible typist. Not only that, but her mind works so fast on so high a level she often makes the very mistakes you speak of. These sorts of mistakes are overlooked by her teachers as part of her modification program as she often answers all her test questions right. Normally spelling would count. However, her teachers have decided that since she will likely have a personal assistant to check these things when she is working in the science field she has chosen ( she has a 100 percent average in Science, a 99 average in Social Studies and oddly enough, a 99 average in spelling ebcause she can memorize like no one I have ever seen before) they will overlook it because it is a vexing problem she can't seem to overcome at this time.

Anonymous said...

R A that's so awesome for your daughter! Is she very high functioning?

I get what you're saying about typos, I am a horrible typist, so I spell check everything! I try to ignore the spelling Nazis of the web. But I have to admit, it is kind of funny when one corrects someone else, having made her own mistakes and then explains it away. It's so funny how some people just can't say. Hey I screwed up!