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Posters around the Park Slope Starbucks on 7th. Ave

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56 comments:

jmt said...

Was this an accident? OMG...
Sounds like that post of a nanny purposely spilling her hot drink on a little boy in the park when he wouldn't leave her alone. Ugh.

jmt said...

Having read through the comments on the Gawker link, many people think the parents are trying to sue Starbuck's over an accident and are looking for eyewitnesses not in Starbuck's employ. The poster makes it sound like this happened intentionally, but who knows? If they are only after the megabucks they should be ashamed.
One of the commenters noted a Craig's List ad dated three days after the incident that possibly indicated the parents fired their nanny. So if they don't press charges against the nanny, and how could they if it is an accident, they may be looking to sue the people that made the tea.
We'll see how it shakes out. This poster is so inflammatory but so vague. Who knows what happened.

mel said...

The baby was only 7 weeks old. I am not quite clear what happened, but as you might expect- the unfortunate parents are being attacked for even leaving their 7 wk child with a nanny. (Standard leave is 6 weeks, makes perfect sense to me.) It was suggested by one person that I know that the hospital/police wanted witnesses to prove that the child was not intentionally burned.
I am just so sad for this tiny baby and for the parents who hae to deal with the sinister speculation of judgmental people.

Anonymous said...

I know about this since I live right in the neighborhood. I highly doubt they are suing the nanny-but, i wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were trying to sue Starbucks. BTW-I don't think the mom was at work when this happened, I believe she was right in the neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

The parents have posted on Park Slope Parents previously, and it sounded like a pretty serious injury: the child was (is?) in the burn unit recovering for quite awhile.

I don't understand all the mystery around the incident though.

Anonymous said...

The Gawker people are just guessing, as all of us are.

All I can say is that it is a horrible tragedy. I read about the account (not a full account though) from the parents themselves.

I wouldn't blame them for suing if there is negligence involved. The child's medical bills must be astronomical, not to mention the cost of traveling to and from Brooklyn to a hospital on 70th and York in Manhattan and childcare for their 2nd kid while they are with the youngest at the hospital. Also, at least one parent would not have been able to work while the kid was in the hospital.

The wound care is a HORRIBLE process that none of us should ever have to know.

And there will indeed be psychological care needed with deep scarring and probably a few plastic surgeries ahead.

This could happen to just about anyone. In no way would you have to be dangling a cup above a baby's head. I once bought a cup of tea at a place called Pax (I think that's the name of it) in midtown and it was INSANELY HOT. Beyond scalding. I couldn't hold it for more than a second in my hand and my reaction was to drop it immediately. I managed to put it down on the counter but the girl who sold it to me hadn't put the lid on properly. It went EVERYWHERE. I was thankful that I wasn't with my child at the time.

Then I noticed that the other clerk was pouring some for another customer and was using a dish towel to hold the paper cup. They weren't bothering to warn anyone that their water was unusually hot.

I really hope that the child recovers enough to someday put this behind him. The thought of it makes me very, very sad and angry.

Anonymous said...

What really did happen? Had this nanny been with them for awhile. I, too recall a post where a nanny held her beverage above the child's head and threatened him/her with spilling it. Also, I just read yesterday about a nanny who through sand in her child's eyes and I think there was a posting on here about a nanny who lost it when a child she had in tow failed to hold the starbucks door open for her and she got her sneakers wet.

My support goes out to the family and the child. And the nanny. I can't imagine a nanny would intentionally hurt a child in front of starbucks!

How hot is that tea anyway?

And Child Protective Services can be a bitch when you bring the child to the ER room and something even hints at abuse. They can be ruthless. I hope those parents didn't have to go through any of that.

Anonymous said...

They probably want to sue Starbucks. And I would too. Do you realize how hot a cup of tea has to be to cause 2nd and 3rd degree burns??? Really hot - too hot to be sold. Remember that McDonald's case where the coffee was so hot the lady suffered horrific 3rd degree burns, she needed skin grafts and everything .... it was awful.

I hope the baby is ok. I hope there are no scars.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm. A quick google search turned up this. It's in another state and hahpened back in 2002, but apparently this isn't the first incident of a baby being burned at Starbucks:

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From: Ed Normand
Date: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 07:28:50
To: jdorosin@starbucked.com
Subject: Burn injuries from unstable tables

Have you had reports of certain tables at Starbucks tipping over easily. (it seems they may now have removed some or all of this type of table) An infant was severly permanently burned from coffee at Starbucks that fell
from a table that reportedly tipped over very easily. Any reports of burns at all at Starbucks from excessively hot coffee?. This is not the
McDonalds case if that is what you are thinking. This baby is very very injured and scarred for life. Oh, as expected noone from Starbucks bothered to help the poor baby or the mother.

Any thoughts, leads or ideas appreciated.

Edmund A. Normand
Board Certified Civil Trial Lawyer
Wooten, Honeywell and Kest P.A.
Orlando, FL
407 843 7060
enormand@whkpa.com

Anonymous said...

Why should Starbucks get sued over the nannies stupidity? If this nanny can't hold a cup of tea or whatever correctly maybe she shouldn't be around kids. This has nothing to do with Starbucks it on the caregiver. So if my kid burns himself on an iron should I sue the iron company for making the iron hot? No its my fault the parent for not watching my child. The nanny is at fault for being reckless. On another note I hope that baby is okay.

Anonymous said...

You don't get it, 12:31.

That lady who sued McDonald's over her burning won because the temperature of the water was 180 degrees. 180 degrees! And McDonald's knew this. They later admitted it would be cheaper to pay off a few lawsuits than to change all of their faulty coffee making equipment.

You just don't know the story enough to form an opinion.

There could have been a broom stick left on the floor that the nanny tripped over.

You just don't know. What we do know is that there is a boy who was welcomed intot he world by being splashed with scalding water -- enough to cause 3rd degree burns.

That's obnoxiously hot water.

Anonymous said...

I can see how this could happen even if you were being very careful, if someone bumped into you, or knocked the tea off the table. We don't know the details.
I feel so sad for the parents, and the nanny too. Pray for the baby's recovery.

Anonymous said...

12.31 you are so ignorant. what if it had been the mother. would you blame her then. you seem to be the kind of person tht will blame a nanny no matter what. the water should never have been that hot. accidents happen and starbucks IS DEFINITELY LIABLE. have a heart. my heart goes out to the baby, his family and the nanny who I am sure is hurting over this as well, as I cant see that she would intentionally scald a child

Anonymous said...

The nanny had been working with the family for a few years and was well liked. With that said, our ped. told us when we had our baby to never have a hot beverage near the kid. He said that is the No.1 accident with newborns. I saw the nanny today in fact and she is very forlorn, doesn't talk to anyone anymore. I believe the parents are trying to locate who the nanny sits for the other days of the week to let them know what happened. I feel for all involved. The nanny has got to feel terrible and the poor baby is really suffering. As for gawker -I used to love that site but was sickened by the comments.

Kelly said...

I hope this poor baby is recovering well. This is a very sad story. I got 2nd & 3rd degree burns on my arm years ago, and it hurt for ten years. My heart goes out to the baby and his family, and his nanny (I don't think a nanny in her right mind would intentionally burn a baby). :(

Anonymous said...

If it was an accident-why do the parents want to tell the other family?

Anonymous said...

4:40:

That is what I would like to know.

I can understand not wanting to see her around their own family anymore, but unless they think she did it on purpose, then what is the point of telling her other families?

Unless the nanny is out of her mind, you can bet she won't be drinking any more tea, no less spilling it!

Anonymous said...

I don't get it either.
Why tell the other family?
Because they are angry?
I am very sorry for the child but
that nanny has to feel awful.
My sister broke her son's arm when he was only a year and a half. They were playing on the bed and he started to roll off and she grabbed him the wrong way. Snap.
Accidents happen.
If you take care of your children yourself, you just don't have anyone to blame but yourself.
Maybe the parents are lucky that way.

Anonymous said...

If the nanny truly worked for them for a few years (I believe they have an older child) and this was truly an accident (which it seems to be-I haven't heard any word of the nanny being insane or doing this on purpose), then, why does the other family have to know? Do we just need to destroy any chance at all this woman might have of making a living in the future?

Anonymous said...

JMT:

The Craig's List ad was not from the same Cori.

The Cori on Craig's List was looking for a nanny in downtown Manhattan.

The Cori on the flyer lives in Park Slope.

None of you are detectives, huh?

Anonymous said...

844,
I like the way you break things down.

vr said...

Where was the parent?
Did the nanny need to go out and get something to eat and drink because the parents balked at leaving her a lender's bagel and slice of Budding ham?

I feel for this baby, this innocent child. Parents need to remember it is their responsibility to bring the very best childcare professionals in to be with their child in their absence. If the parent cannot afford to do that, then the parents should take care of their own child. Or not have children.

Anonymous said...

Is this the starbucks?
http://www.brooklynrecord.com/archives/starbucks.JPG

Anonymous said...

Never try to hold your baby and carry hot liquids or drink hot tea or coffee. Babies have thinner and softer skin and naturally, burns caused by hot liquids and vapor scald them more deeply and at lower temperature. Water with a temperature above 140° Fahrenheit can cause third-degree burns in a baby in just a few seconds.

what do you know? said...

First of all it says "Careful, the beverage you're about to enjoy is extremely hot" on every cup and every sleeve. Its common knowledge how hot it is going to be and by not asking for room in here tea she assumes the risk of burning herself. Starbucks didn't come to her with a cup of tea, she came to it. She knew their was going to be a risk of burning herself, her toungue or anything anything else. It is also common knowledge that Starbucks would not intentionally injur someone and know how to prepare every and any drink we sell. Spills happen though and people may get hurt, Starbucks will do everything in its power to make sure the customer is tended to medically. This story leaves out a huge part of detail of what really happened. When it goes to court the truth will come out.

Anonymous said...

12:49:

Oh yeah, I know I always read those sleeves. *rolls eyes*

What's with the "we"? Are you the spokesperson for Starbucks now, or just someone who pours water there? Better be careful with your words.

Face it, with a 3rd degree burn they have an excellent chance of winning a lawsuit, and the doctors have probably told them so.

Starbucks would never intentioanlyl injure anyone? Have you any idea where your coffee comes from and how it is acquired?

Anonymous said...

Starbucks, Liberals, Cowards and Walmart are what's wrong with the US. Boycott them all!

Anonymous said...

If they want to sue Starbucks, fine, but then why post "our NANNY BURNED OUR CHILD..." that's just cruel, and probably illegal. It's like if she were being sued for negligence it's like trying her twice. I think these parents are wackos and I feel bad for their baby but damn: anyone who would post something like this has a problem. They should not even be parents.
This could have happened to anyone. Why post things about the nanny around her own community for all to see? Geez. What wackos. Poor little baby: probably got burned because of the bad karma from these wacko parents.

ro said...

You're right! I was feeling pity for the parents because they were being attacked for having left their 7 week old with a nanny! But how dare they post something so inflammatory. It really should say burned by hot tea! Where is that nanny now? Can we get her story?

Anonymous said...

Hold up, people.

I think those parents have been put through the ringer in the past few weeks.

Do you know what that child must look like if he was 2 weeks in the burn unit ?

Psychologically speaking, the parents are spent. As any of us would be in that situation....

Anonymous said...

Two wrongs don't make a right: in their grief,anger and feelings of guilt they did something wrong. Perhaps this is not the time to address it, but they should not have posted those notices.
Let's call a spade a spade. They messed up.

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering if the reason the parents want to tell the nanny's other families is out of concern for her, not out of malice. Maybe they really care about their nanny and know she feels awful about the incident and so want to let the other families know that the nanny may be out of sorts for a bit, may need to take some time off, etc. Though I suppose that's something the nanny should or would tell them herself, maybe the parents have good intentions. But that poster does make it sound like they blame the nanny. And maybe they should, I don't know the whole story. Just some thoughts...

Anonymous said...

Why is it so bad for the parents to post? They are trying to find out what really happened.... hence looking for witnesses. The parents didn't put her name on the fliers and anyone who knows a nanny who works for a Cori & Stu probably heard about it from her anyway. If it posted her name, address, telephone then the parents would have been in the wrong... but this is no big deal!

Anonymous said...

7:49 AM
Liberals are already boycotting Walmart. Catch up.

Anonymous said...

Since Starbucks, unlike these parents, offers their employees health insurance, I think calling them the villians here is a bit out of line. This is a tragic accident. These parents must be out of their minds looking for someone to blame. I understand that -- although I don't think it's right.

Anonymous said...

How would a job interview for this nanny go? Would she inform her prospective employers in advance,
"I am the nanny who burned the infant on April 24 at 11:30 AM with my hot cup of tea. I wanted you to hear it from me first. You know, before you find flyers on your windshield & taped to your front door."

She has to be looking/or have attained a position in the same area. Right?

Anonymous said...

749-
yeah the limousine liberals.

Anonymous said...

6:00: you're an idiot. That's all for you.
8:36: it's a "big deal" for the nanny who is being, perhaps (we don't know the story) slandered unfairly. It is a big deal. It's not a big deal to you because you have never walked a mile in her shoes. Accidents happen, and I'm sure if it were the parents who had spilled the tea, they would be horrified if they saw a poster about them.
Nobody's perfect: I've never spilled hot tea on my baby, but once when I was trying to cut her nails, I cut her finger accidentally and made her little finger bleed: I felt horrible! Imagine how that nanny felt.
I feel bad for all involved, even the parents, but they did not have to word that poster in that way. To me, it was unfair.

Anonymous said...

sadly,
What would have helped these parents would have been an i saw your nanny sighting of the event.
that's such a sad thing. when your children are too young to talk; you have to trust the person caring for them to tell you where they were, what they did and what happened. It isn't "nannies" per say. The world is full of dishonest and lazy people these days. If I had to have a nanny, I think I would only hire a Japanese nanny. Better work ethic, more honest and principled.

marissa said...

Do we know exactly what happened?
This wasn't in the news!
The baby was in the burn unit for 2 weeks? Poor darling.
My heart goes out to the entire family. And to the nanny, too. She'd have to be a monster to not live the rest of her life with a gaping scar on her heart for having been even present when such an injury befell a child.

Anonymous said...

To 8:25 :

the poster does not have ANY information about the nanny so it isn't slander! unless you want to argue that it is slander against all nannies....

i have been in a situation, as a nanny, when a child broke his arm, doing something i was telling him not to do, he argued his mother lets him, i told him i wasn't his mother, and to stop, and boom, he feel and broke his arm. i know what an awful situation it is to be in.

and you are right we don't know the entire story, the parents may not either, which is why they are doing everything in their power to find out what happened. another part of the story that is unknown is the nanny's name, and information.

unless her name and information is posted it isn't slander.

Anonymous said...

I would never hire a nanny who got hot tea from starbucks. Ice tea, sure. But I don't trust nannies who sip tea. Sipping tea is so slow motion. I'd rather have a nanny pumped to the gils on caffeine and bouncing off the walls with the kids. Who drinks hot tea? 60 year old women? I can guarantee you the women in the nanny exhibit picture is a hot tea sipper.

Anonymous said...

Our coke-guzzling, high fructose corn syrup loving fat ass culture doesn't fancy tea sipping, but other more civilized cultures do.

Anonymous said...

heads of state can sit on their asses and sip tea. a nanny needs to have momentum.

Anonymous said...

A nanny of a 7 week old can't sip tea? It's not like she was watching my 5 year old monkey and trying to keep him from swinging to the next country over.

jmt said...

I would rather have a calm, collected, hot tea sipper for a nanny than a caffeine-revved, stressed out one who shakes the baby.
I love the British Blend type with the round tea bags myself.

Anonymous said...

Is this nanny feautured in the Brooklyn Good Nanny Exhibit? If not, where can I see her?

Anonymous said...

12:39,
It may not be able to stand up in court of law, but ethically it is slanderous to post things about a person publicly: even though her name was not on it, my guess is that it did effect her reputation in the community. You don't think that people knew who their nanny was?
Perhaps legally it wasn't slander, but I feel that it is ethically slanderous.

Anonymous said...

Ethically slandered? Ok. But on that subject how about a show of hands regarding nannies who have been flat out slandered by their former employers. Who, when sent word to former employer that the extent of her slanderous acts were criminal, said employer sent gleeful word back, "I can outlawyer anyone".
nice.
like nannies have a chance.
it's one of the perils for working with the upper class. Be very careful to make sure your employers actually have class.

Kelly said...

To 12:40 PM: "Who drinks hot tea"?

I drink hot tea, especially in the winter. I really like tea. I like regular tea, Chinese green tea, cranberry tea, rasperry tea, strawberry tea, passion fruit tea, orange tea, lemon tea etc. Hot tea is not only for the 60's and 70's moms, it's for anyone who appreciates a good hot beverage, and who wont drink it near a baby.

:)

jmt said...

If there was a perfume that smelled like good tea, I'd be wearing it. I'm with Kelly.
Recent studies show that drinking black tea (no milk) has a calming effect. Perhaps the stressed people on this blog should try some.

Anonymous said...

8:25:

If you are going to call me an idiot, at least elaborate as to why you are doing so.

I was just sharing another "maybe" explanation as everyone on here has. I didn't even say it was what I thought was happening, it was just another possibility.

Anonymous said...

I could tell you why you are an idiot, but you're such an idiot that you wouldn't understand.

Anonymous said...

youre all a bunch of idiots just like the parents in park slope, all she bitches

Anonymous said...

124, really, if all you can add to this forum is to call someone an idiot, than I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror at yourself. But than again, you probably wouldn't understand....Sheesh. It's the pot calling the kettle black...

Anonymous said...

4;33 the definition of idiot is YOU