This occured today (6/5) at 2pm at Tompkins Square park in NYC, Ave A between St Marks Place and East 9th st. Just wondering if all nanny's are like this. I was there today w/ my child and saw other children running around barefoot. This is not pointed at anyone in general since there were quite a few children there. Also not all of them were barefoot either. here are 2 pics I was able to take of one girl.
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Apparently you people have nothing better to do with your time. The time that you take spying on nannies and kids should be spent learning to cook, clean and take better care of your families!
cook and clean? That's funny. My children are better the well taken care of. I have no desire to master tile stains or streak free windows. Piss off.
10:59- WHY ARE YOU HERE?
You come here to spy on us, eh?
O.k. ~ back on the subject .... I get it. Barefoot = dog poo, cat piss, bubble gum, bird droppings, peoples spit (a.k.a. "loogies").
.... it's just icky. Did I forget anything else?
For future notice, a good place to go barefoot = your backyard (you usually know what's in it), the beach, INDOOR playgrounds w/ mats, your living room ....
good question, Canada
I wouldn't walk on my carpet after stepping on that pavement. And that's in my keds!
This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen on here. If it's a crime to run around barefoot and let your kids do it, I'd be in prison for life. I clean my kids with antibacterial wipes and of course don't do in anyplace completely inappropriate, but I really think if you had looked around instead of fishing for pics to snap, you probably would have found something that wasn't a total waste of everyone's time.
I see a lot of kids running around barefoot in public places, and it worries me. It is possible to bring up the issue without taking pictures of other people's kids? The nanny/parent/caregiver should have stopped this photo session. Nobody takes photo of my charges unless there is a birthday party and better be a group photo.
Yes, it's icky, but certainly not abusive or neglectful. I'm wondering where the adult in charge of this little girl was while the op was snapping pictures of her.
I like the pictures. FOr many reasons. Better visual. It's not like you can identify the child. Well done.
And regarding snapping the picture, are you kidding? Ever seen an upskirt or downshirt site? People are pointing their cameras everywhere. The nanny may not have known.
I am glad the child's face was not used. But I find children barefoot in public apalling. Especially NYC. Needle sticks and killer strain of the hiv, anyone?
I'm rolling my eyes.
I used to live on a block overlooking Thompkins Square Park and went there with my kids oh say every day for 3 years. The majority of the kids ran barefoot in that GATED AREA all summer long.
GATED AREA (which is locked after dark) = do dog poop (dogs are not alllowed inside the play area), no used condoms littered about, etc. The most dangerous thing I ever saw there were water balloons that were popped and left strewn about. Not exactly a danger to the toes.
I also have never seen a piece of glass there, as most kids drink from sippy cups, plastic bottles or in the case of adults, to-go drink containers. In any case, we never suffered any cuts, and neither did the children of my countless friends who would accompany us.
But the biggie: You failed to show the sprinkler system that is oh say 10 feet from where that child is standing. Actually, less. Kids who forget their bathing suit kick off their shoes and run in the puddles all the time. It is normal. NORMAL.
OP, if you really want to give yourself a stroke, go across from the dog run and enter the second sprinkler park area (near the pool). I guarantee that every kid there will be barefoot, and rightfully so.
To 7:32:
Newsflash. Killer strains of HIV on needle sticks can poke through shoes (especially water shoes) rather easily. Duh. It may reassure your uneducated self to know that the virus doesn't live that long on a needle, so unless it's mommy, nanny or someone else's mommy or nanny shooting up in the playground, things should be fine. Wink.
It's front page news when Britney Spears walks barefoot. It's dirty, disgusting, trashy and unforgivable. But it's okay for a child to go barefoot?
Get that kid a pair of water shoes.
Did you not hear Elisabeth Hasselback's story of the teenagers she interrupted who were attempting coitus in and around the playground equipment?
Is that a Perego stroller?
You can roll your eyes right back in to your head, missy.
My nanny tells me on Thursday that my 4 year old son did not 'want' to keep his shoes on. She tells me this as she is explaining a small scrape on the top of his foot. I care less about the scrape than I do the fact that I have a nanny so she can direct the child. The rule is that he has his shoes on in public. Her inability to have him listen to her makes me question her judgment in general. What is next? Perhaps he doesn't want to hold her hand while crossing 86th?
There are all different kinds of risks in this world, and we must expose ourselves and our children (or those we care for) to them from time to time. Car accident is the number one killer of healthy children in the US, but I don't imagine many of you have put a ban on your kids riding in cars, have you?
I wouldn't let my charges run barefoot down a New York street, or in the subway but if they'd like to take their shoes off in the park, I say go for it. The park is cleaned everyday, and I understand how great it is to really curl your toes into the sand. Of course, there is a risk involved, but there's a risk to crossing the street in Manhattan and we manage that ok everyday.
Now, it's a different situation for 8:00. She's made it a rule that shoes must be on in public, and her nanny has to respect that and her child has to be taught to respect that. But shoes on in a park is a personal decision for each family, it's not a blanket rule for society.
I think I'll take my charges up to Tompkins Square Park today to go barefoot in solidarity with the other children.
If someone took a picture of my kid, especially for a stupid reason like they had no shoes on, I would grab the camera and run to the nearest police station. I really would.
I find it horrible that this blog owner would publish the pic of that little girl, even with her face blocked out. This is not an abusive situation.
If there is an abusive or neglectful situation going on-such as a nanny sleeping on the job, we would be able to utlize a picture of the nanny. Children pictured in photographs not authorized by their parents is really not the best idea.
7:53:
Teenagers have sex on beaches too. Should kids wear combat boots there?
Maybe they should wear industrial strength gloves while playing on the playgroud equipment?
Let's wait to hear what Elisabeth Hasselback tells you since she is your parenting guide.
In the meantime, my kids will run through gated sprinklers sans shoes if the situation allows.
11:10 I have the same rights that you have to be here.
11:01...just look at your reply.
Is that how you talk to your kids? I see that you set quite an example for them. It's because of parents like you that your kids grow up to be all screwed up and the majority of you wind up taking Prozac and Zoloft.
The child's face and identity were concealed. I thought the picture was excellent and brought some much needed visual imagery to the blog. People are standing by-ready to complain about anything.
I agree with mMggie, except for the fact that I found this post to be useless. It's not a bad nanny sighting in my opinion.
If there are going to be visuals, they sure in heck should be because there is abuse or neglect.
Here you go, 7:53 -- something more for you to be paranoid about. Better get those Doc Martens out:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19053410/wid/11915773?GT1=10109
JD,
I agree with the person who said this is not a bad sighting. I like the idea of a random rant section. This might fall in to that category. Rant against shoeless children in public!
Thanks!
I quite enjoy going barefoot in the park.
Elisabeth Hasselback is beautiful, smart and should write a parenting book. I would buy it.
10:27...its not just teenagers having sex on the beach...adults do it too...I can testify to that one ;)
VK...HELLLLLL NO. Elizabeth Hasselback??? Are you serious? She is one of many stupid and untalented people on television. Also shes too busy with her head up Barbara's ass to do so as well. Thats like Lindsay Lohan doing a commercial for auto insurance...it wouldn't fly!
Who is Elisabeth Hasselback? I've never heard of her.
I find it creeepy that there are people defending the OP for taking pictures of someone else's kid. Even if the child's face was concealed, OP has the originals somewhere, and one day someone will find the pictures, and God knows where they will end up. You people need a security check. Things "fall through the cracks" everyday, so better safe than sorry. Don't let strangers take pictures of your kids. If you think strange things happen to other people's kids, think again. I almost got snatched at age 12.
I am the Op. The reason I posted this is I wouldnt want my child walking barefoot all around the park. even if it is closed at night. she wasnt even wet or near the sprinklers. just walking barefoot. when her and the nanny left, she didnt even wipe her feet off, the nanny just put on her shoes. whos to say she didnt step in bird poop.
I could spit and hit the sprinklers from where that child was standing.
I bet I know that child. She looks to be the same age as one of my kids. Didn't recognize the stroller though.
well then I guess you can spit about 25 feet.
so basically, if we equipped random mommies and nannies with toy cameras and had them pretend to be taking pitcures of other children, then perhaps we could actually elevate these nanny slugs to a hirer level of care? or would they simply shout from the bench,
'yo, you cant take that"
I think since the picture was taken down the Original Post should be updated with a description of the child... although since this was an overall sighting maybe not. BUT if the mother of this child did want to know if it was her child because she wants her child to wear shoes, a description would help.
I would imagine that many mothers would not want their children to go barefoot in the park. It's a personal decision but the moms who don't want this happening should be informed as to what is going on as if could very well be one of their brood.
kelly @ 3:42,
I couldn't agree more and I will say it again, if I saw someone taking pics of my kid in the park I would grab the camera right out of her hand and run. Child predators come in many different forms and as a parent I would of course be wary of any random wacko snapping pics.
To OP:
you were wrong to take and send these pics. Blog owner, you were wrong to publish them, although I am assuming you know that since you took it down. I'm curious about that: did you only change your mind after people started writing in? I would think that an owner of a blog such as this (and a great blog it is, mind you) would have forseen such controversy.
why are you still bitching if the pictures are down? I don't get it. I had no problem with the pictures. You couldn't see anything about the child at all, except her outfit. Just what do you think could have possibly happened? Someone waits at the park for same child to show up in the same outfit and jumps out and says "ah hah".
I'm hoping OP took the pic from a distance and the nanny did not have the chance to stop the shutterbug.
As for future pictures, bring on the pictures of nannies. I have never had a camera when I needed one. And I have seen things that are so scandlous that had I snapped them, the pics and story would probably be picked up by the associated press.
see the description two posts up? I would love to see what a hispanic pia zadorra looks like. I am a mother myself and I don't want my child appearing on this website. But if the child did and someone recognized the child, I imagine I could contact the blog administrator- tell her that it is my child and have the photos pulled. I like the photo ideas. I saw the picture as it was posted earlier. You couldn't even see the child's hair. This is NYC. I wonder what your problem was with the photo? Sadly, I think the vague descriptions allow people to skirt by and say, "oh no, that wasn't me". And a photo, like a videotape, makes you much more accountable.
I am the op. I am sorry the pics pissed some of u off. But I am a mom as well as a nanny and I get so tired of reading where r the pics. okay, so the nanny wasnt screaming on the child, or hitting her, but still would u want ur child walking around barefoot? I dont care if the park is closed at night, theres always bird poop, and dont tell me the birds dont poop in the park. Plus for the nanny not to wipe the childs feet before putting on shoes, thats just ewww.
OP-
I thought the pics spiced things up a little. Just next time point your camera at the nanny.
Because you know if you just describe the nanny as "a portly African American, with scraggly hair and a smooshed face"
you will be called a racist and a bitch. So you can't win!
You just can't win!
Bird poop on her feet? Oh no! Certain death for sure!
Hell, my kids, as well as about 40 kids I know in my social circle, learned to crawl in that park. I guess that means they had bird poop all over their knees and hands.
Guess what? They are all fine.
you know what's funny? You people who live in New York to make that New York money. Still making 700,000 K a year doesn't matter because you own a scrawny 2 bedroom apartment that yu paid 1.5 million for. And for what? So you can have ugly ac units hanging out your windows on to the streets and you can get take out food from anyone of the rat infested NY restaurant. Funniest of all are your poor children. Our park don't have pavement. They also don't have creepy nannies that if stationed appropriately on the Israeli border would likely scare Hezzbollah in to submission. So what are you in NY for? Why not go live somewhere beautiful where children can run free in lush grass, where you can own a home outright with a lawn? What keeps you all in that rat infested bubble of toxic fumes? And you thin you are going to pawn that incestuous rat bastard flip flopping Giuliani off on the rest of us? No thank you. You can keep him, your subpar parks, your inflated agos and your communistic parking arrangements.
We live in New York so we don't have to have people like you as our neighbor.
New York City is an amazing place to live. It's the ONLY place I'd live in this country.
10:34, climb in your gas guzzler suv and drive the 4 blocks from your McMansion to your grassy park. Take a look around. That, my friend, is your life.
Feel righteous now?
So, 10:34, where do you live?
Anyhow, I just wanted to mention that my dogs got tape worms from eating bird droppings and if a child walked in bird droppings, touced their barefeet and then their mouths, it might not be a real good thing. There seem to be a lot of pigeons in the park and they are filthy.
McMansion? That's another NY term. You know when all you people decide to move out of the city and spend 6 million dollars on an 8,000 sqaure foot house that sits on a 10,000 square foot lot.
I live in Texas on an orchard of over 100 acres of pecan trees. Gas Guzzlers, yes I have a few. But gas is in my blood. Which reminds me of another reason I loathed NY city. Too many damn liberals and dems.
255, you must be a fan of that freak Rosie. Elizabeth is a very smart woman. That is why she, not you, is on The View. Jealousy is very unbecoming.
I love Elisabeth, great sense of style has she & very in to be a good mother. The only thing better than Elisabeth Hasselback is Matt.
Yum!
With regard to Elizabeth Hasselback, one person on here thought she was an idiot, the other felt she was so sharp she should write a book on childcare. Elizabeth Hasselbeck of the View, is not all that smart, nor is she the beauty the one poster claimed and she didn't serve the conservatives well at all in her weak and wimpy attempts to make her points against the liberal bullies on that show, mainly Rosie O'D. The only time she showed any gumption at all was when she, herself, was called a coward and the ire she showed was to defend herself. There are sooooo many intelligent, well-spoken and knowledgable women who could be a force for the conservatives on that show. Elizabeth is not among them.
I may be an old school republican, but I have a huge issue with such a self professed uber conservative sitting on a morning talk show with a blouse cut down to her knees and being forced to watch her ever expanding bosom. It is a morning talk show, even if she wasn't a conservative with Christian values. Some of her outfits are borderline whorish. Although I agree with her beliefs. Her argument with Rosie was my least favorite because it was personal. The literal translation of what Rosie said was that Americans were terrorist. So for Rosie to force the issue and cry "friendship and betrayal" was a bit much. Rosie was a refreshing change of pace for AM television. I normally never watch it and I haven't watched it sense. I hope great things for Elisabeth because she seems like a good person.
Sorry, 1050, but I'm sure there are a lot of parents who would prefer 1034's view. I left New York and never looked back. It was the best decision my family ever made. Don't feel like anyone is jealous of you. Living in NY comes at too large of a cost. Enjoy your view.
1149, sometimes using less words works well. Everyone knows what a loud and outspoken person Rosie is. Elizabeth has a lot of class. Personally, I feel her having to listen to first Star, then Rosie, has made her wary of what she says, as the whole world will hear her. She doesn't cram her views down peoples throats. That is class.
And 1154, Elizabeth is on television. She has a stylist. She is a trendy person. I am very conservative, in most issues, but don't think she looks whorish by the way she dresses. She has a great body, and can dress that way without it looking trashy. Thank goodness Rosie didn't dress the same way....hehe.
It's EliSabeth Hasselback. And while it doesn't always look trashy, it still seems like a stretch for morning tv. And also somewhat hypocritical given the judgment she passes on the Hollywood Whores. I am sure with the right stylist, she could look as dazzling as she usually does on morning TV without showing nine inches of cleavage. Save it for the nightlife.
Elizabeth..Elisabeth..who cares? Whatever she wears, I think she looks great. She's even cuter pregnant. I'll admit I pick up tabloid magazines once in a while, and love the pictures of her with her husband and daughter. What a nice looking family. And how someone dresses really does not tell what kind of person they are. As for the Hollywood Whores you speak of, she should critisize them. At least EliZabeth does not flash her privates! IMO, at least. And it really comes down to the differences in behavior, too.
Well, Elizabeth H. is on a show where the women on the panel discuss issues and lately, it has been about the Iraq war because that's the big issue in America right now. To have a milquetoast like Elizabeth being the only representative for the conservative view is pathetic. She may be a nice person, but she's better at dealing with and discussing decorating, fashions, and children. It's not fair that there isn't someone with some guts and political knowledge to speak out for the other side. Her clothes are the least of the problem.
I have to add, though, that I do prefer more modest outfits. Some things do look more appropriate for eventings out. I just don't let things like that form my opinions of others. Again, it comes down to a persons beliefs and actions towards others. Never judge a book by it's cover.
I think this picture says it all:
http://www.celebslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/elisabeth-hasselbeck-boobs-3.jpg
Too much!
I don't watch The View for updates on Iraq. If I want that, I go to MSNBC. So what if she's the only conservative on the show. The View is a refreashing way for me to enjoy a wonderful hour while my children are in school. Let her keep her opinions to herself of share. I don't care. Don't say she is awful for the show. The show does not revolve around the war.
I don't get much of a chance to watch the view, but I like Elisabeth. I identify with her.
12:24, who are you? The prez of her fan club? The show is about women sharing their views. Get it? They usually start with items from the news, often regarding the war in Iraq but they also discuss the election, the candidates, the issues, etc. To have someone who is weak in her knowledge and less than forceful in her presentation of her views is letting the conservatives down. The show is overwhelmingly liberal with the shrill Joy spouting her stale arguments and opinions, the former host, boisterous government-hating Rosie shouting out her ignorant theories on the war and terroist activities, the old bag Barbara lying through her teeth about everything and everybody and then there's the milquetoast,wimpy Elizabeth who could make a difference but either can't or won't.
1223, sorry, that photo is not shocking to me. I see more than that on the beach or in the womens locker room at my gym. If I'm guessing correctly, she is pregnant in that photo. Breasts get bigger durring pregnancy. They're going to be "out there" as my friends and I joked durring our pregnancies. And how do you know that dress wasn't the most conservative of what they had availabe for her to wear that day? Every woman that I know enjoys dressing nice and looking good. I am very consevative compared to most of my friends, but enjoyed large breasts while I had them. I certainly did display them a bit more than normal.
All I'm saying, is, don't rip her apart for the way she dresses, or for the fact that she does not behave the way Rosie did, shoving her political views down everyone's throats. Like the she devil, Ann Coutier (sp?), whatever. Now that lady is a beyotch. I refuse to even consider her human.
My only problem with her is that she does sometimes dress whorish. Yes, perfectly suitable for the beach or the gym or even a night out with her hubby, but not on DAYTIME television. Soap opera stars dont even show off that much. If she were some lose canan, free loving, pot smoking hippy liberal, I wouldn't think twice about it. I just think she is better than that.
1233, as I keep saying, EliZabeth adds class and grace. The show does cover politics. But it covers many other issues, too. I prefer to watch it for the fluff. So sue me, oh president of her hate club. It is just a tv show. I just hate to see someone who is a genuine nice person ripped to pieces. I'm sure it's not easy being in the hotseat, because you either share too much and are annoying, or you are useless. Some people are just never happy!
Elisabeth Hasselback.
formerly, Elisabeth Grace Filarski.
Never Elizabeth.
Finally, 1236, something I can agree with. Yes, more appropriate for a different situation. On tv, she should be a little more carefull, otherwise moms on blogs will gang up on her and say what whorish taste she has! ;)
I am not tearing her to pieces, but if she cannot take the heat in the kitchen she should get out of the kitchen. She just doesn't measure up with her wimpy reluctantance in standing up for what she believes. She allows a lot of hateful and untrue things to go unchallenged. What is her purpose there? If she cannot hold up her end, then get someone who can.
I'm only typing it as eliZabeth to be obnoxious. I have been corrected, but choose to be liberal in this issue. ;)
how manyt of us are on here debating elisabeth hasselback?
I just found this. I thought it was weird when I watched the episode. Why would they do this?
On an episode which aired October 17, 2006, Hasselbeck took issue with the use of the name "Elizabeth Hassenback", given to a character on the TV drama Law & Order SVU who was raped and killed. She said that the use of the name, which she claimed clearly implied her, was deliberate and stated that it was socially irresponsible.
1243, I don't think she is feeling the heat in the kitchen, espcially now the Rosie is gone. Personally, I'm hopefull that when they choose a new co-host, that they will be conservative. It's eassier to make a good point if you have someone there to back you up, and not have three against one. It's no wonder she's not too vocal on politics.
Well, it's close enough for me. BTW, Jennifer LE CARLO just why do you identify with "Elisabeth"?? Are you rich and pampered and pregnant by a pro-football player? Are you on TV? Could you elaborate on that? Otherwise, your post is entirely pointless.
I am accountable for 9 of these post for EliZabeth. Who else is here?
I use my real name, so you don't get much more than that. And no, it wasn't a vba.
I feel that I too identify with EliZabeth. My family is conservative, we're young, we have a young toddler and another on the way. I'm not on tv or married to a pro-football player, though. There are many ways one can identify with another that doesn't include money or fame.
I'm one anonymous. So there is atleast one other, "ro" and jennifer...
I never saw that episode of law and order. sam waterson's face pisses me off. So I can't comment on the episode or why they might use her name.
VBA?
and yet no JMT. Hmmmm.
veiled brag attempt-referencing something obscure in an attempt to bring the discussion back around to how great you are.
veiled brag alert-calling someone on doing the above.
well, aren't you just the busy little bee, JD? As for law and order, I dislike the prosecutors so much on there, that I find myself rooting for the criminals. That's not good, so I just don't watch it.
Rosie officially lost me when I found out she believes in the 9/11 conspiracy crap. And I was saying "Elizabeth who?" before a poster said she was on The View. I don't like any of the women on that show.
I love JMT. I wish she was here. She always has a lot to offer!
And I can't comment either. I don't watch that show.
Hello JMT!
JMT seems to be here. I don 't like any of the women on the View either. Barbara is so over with. She should just go away and when she goes, she should take her co-horts with her.
Roseanne is another liberal thoogh, so that won't work. I like that Sherry character but I dont know what her political beliefs are. She seems to have great family values though.
Speaking of hypocritical, Barbara Walters is the creator of a show called the view but she can't come down off the fence to take one side or the other.
And her kissing up to that idiot Kathy Hilton was a bit much. You parenting skills have to suck somewhat if you produce a high school drop out, mean spirited, idiotic daughter like Paris.
No defending that!
Who is Sherry? Has she been on? I haven't watched for a while.
Yeah, like steel doesn't melt? Isn't it liquid before it cools down and solidifies? Rosie is an ignorant loudmouth. Barbara is an old hag who's out of touch and has turned into a big liar. What is even worse, she's been caught in her lies.
I'll tell you who I lost all respect for was Alicia Silverstone when she came out and snubbed Elizabeth after Rosie and Elizabeth had their little argument. Now that showed zero class. Besides, anyone notice how ugly she got as she got older? She was a cute teenager. She's got one mangled mouth that totally detracts from her looks.
Sherri Shepherd
Oh, please! Never judge a celebrity parent by their children! Growing up in the limelight and having people make a big issue out of you once you hit society can really mess a person up!
As for Barbara, there, I agree somewhat. She really never does take sides until forced. The whole Donald/Rosie crap for instance. That was dissapointing.
Oh, and hello JMT! Welcome to the Night Owl Club.
Sherri's boring. They can't afford to have boring. That would make it unanimous.
Well no one is chomping at the bit to hire silverstone. What does she do nowadays besides through red paint on NYC furriers?
Heidi, thanks. And I too noticed how Alicia snubbed EliZabeth. That was very rude. As for her looks, I don't really care about that. I love that she is all for the enviroment. Her behavior has lowered my opinion of her.
And God save us from Susan Lucci. She was on the View one morning in the dead of winter while everyone else was dressed sensibly for the season, wearing a short spagetti stapped cocktail dress and looked ridiculous. I was embarassed for her. She adds absolutely nothing to the discussion and thinks she's still a teenager.
Susan lucci. Didn't she throw a fit because she never won a daytime emmy, for like umteen years? Hahaha. That's sad.
Well, I'm loving this debate, but have to call it a night. Goodnight, all.
yeah, well goodnight to you, too, jd. Glad you loved the debate. Next time maybe you can add something worthwhile to it.
Hello Night Owl Clubbers! My two cents - I can't stand Rosie. She is so full of herself and her supposedly wise brain. I am not crazy about Donald Trump either, but I love the way he repeatedly taunts her into depression. She picked on a wacko like herself and she will be hearing from him for eternity. As for Elisabeth, she is not very bright. I think though that she is too pretty to be on The View. That show is for butt ugly characters.
That's probably why she dresses as she does. She has to have something going for herself. I don't think she's all that pretty. Cute perhaps.
suggestions for anonymous's 1-109
pick a moniker. even if it is X.
I can't stand all these "anonymous" comments.
uh, about Paris's folks, they were permissive and defensive of their daughters when they were at their worst behavior. That is NOT the way to parent. The girls were spoiled to the point that they have no empathy for others. They are the most selfish celebrity children ever produced. The whole family should share a jail cell and be there for at least a year. They are the worst of America and also representative of what the terrorists hate most about us with their excesses, loose morals, and contempt for those "beneath" them.
The over reaction of the picture was dramatic overkill. Seriously. In NYC. A girl in pink. A white girl. And the picture did justice to just how gross it is to be in barefeet in NYC.
Just MHO
The Hiltons like so many "rich" people (sort of like Donald Trump) don't have nearly as much money as they want people to think. The more time I spend working in real estate, the more I realize how much wealth is just an illusion in so many cases.
Uh, did someone vote you some authority, Canadian person?
I cannot stand Donald Trump, but to his credit, he made his children work from the time they were of legal age to hold a job. They learned a lot in the process and are oh, so much more intelligent than the Hilton Brood and much more sensitive to others.
Hey 120. What did you add?
quite a bit more than you did, no name
Yeah that was so rude. Lets not be rude.
Donald Trump's kids add to society. They do have a great work ethic. How sad was it that Paris's family wanted people to sign a petition to keep her out of jail? That was pathetic. Commit a crime, do the time.
too right, 1:35
Isn't it the truth: the worse the parenting the more defensive the parents are when their kids are criticized.
And I can't stand Trump. All these blow-hards talking as if they had something to say, and as if we wanted to hear it.
Nighty night Owls...
I'm sleepy. Later...
there are some rude people on here this evening, but a fairly lively debate. It's true about Donald Trumps kids. You never heard about them getting into trouble either, when they were younger. Hey, how about those Bush twins, though? Didn't they just about take the cake? Gotta love 'em though. They came through it and are lovely young women now, just like their mother.
135, all I'm saying is that you have no idea what jd added before she/he started posting with initials. Who are you to say someone did not add to this awsome conversation? Everyones opinions are welcome here, and add to the discussion. You're not even posting any name, so don't judge.
yes. lets not censor or waste time tsk tsking. free speak. our last freedom.
I've actually forgotten about the twins!! They've really changed their tune. Good for them and their parents.
Wow! you people are still awake. JMT, I thought your bed time was 10pm.
wait do you know JMT? Do some of you all know each other outside of here?
UH, how do you know, no name, that jd posted anonymously before posting with her initials? Are you psychic? Do you know her? I am curious.
Alass, Jmt has left the Night Owl Club for the evening. (see, jd did add something..I kinda like the title)
we have been on autopilot since i signed on.
I am beginning to think so, first 1:45
145, it took me a while to catch up with this post. JD said "I am accountable for nine of the posts." Obviously he/she added quite a bit before posting with initials. I don't always use a name myself, since people seem ruder by directing more awful comments to those who do. (135)
And no, no one really knows JMT outside this blog. She is here so often, though, it seems as if many of us do know her.
Ok, getting confused now so I think I'll call it a night. Good night, everyone.
Lets go to sleep people! We will be zombies tommorow.
I like this autopiolet. Thanks tr. You're a great network disrutoer.
"And the picture did justice to just how gross it is to be in barefeet in NYC."
Um, what does this mean? There wasn't an ounce of dirt or debris on the concrete in th picture I looked at.
Are you saying that they don't have bird poop and such in other places you deem safe to walk barefoot outdoors?
Keep in mind, people: GATED AREA.
Barefoot in the park sounds lovely. Barefoot on asphalt paving in a city chocked full of crack heads and vagrants-not so much.
With regard to the legality of taking a picture of someone and publishing it. I'll skip the legal ease & make this simple:
Anyone can take a picture of anyone in public.
If you do not have a release from the person in the photo or the person's guardian, then you may not reveal their identity. In most cases, a simple bar across their eyes is sufficient.
The photo in question had an alien sized giant circle above it AND because there was a photo-there was no accompanying description so we don't even know what color of hair the child had.
Get over it. You made your point. Now move on.
123456, you sound like some of the perverts in support of snapping kids in public places. Perverts always have some 'good' reason for their actions:
'public place', 'now move on','legality' etc. Whatever happend to morality? Would you like some stranger taking photos of you and your children just because you stepped into a 'public' playground, or a 'public' beach. Would it be a nice thing for the stranger to do to keep the photos and do with them as they wish? If you think all this is okay, I feel sorry for your children, and I hope you are not a nanny. You are probably one of those people that have tons of illegal kiddie photos archived on your computer.
Wow-- I think you need to calm down. You are obviously the same person who posted previously. The one who was nearly snatched at 12.
I don't want to be rude, but do you know what projection is?
Sometimes victims of abuse become abusers. You are the one who has a filthy, dirty mind. You are projecting your feelings on to people. What in the hell do you expect anyone would do with a photo of a child with a big black bubble on her shoulders?
You are totally creeping me out.
Y'all, if it would become commonplace for people to randomly snap pictures of our innocent children, they could become exposed to pedophiles. No way is that ok in my book. It really is up to the parents to say if it is ok to have their child's photo posted on the internet.
Personally, if I were the parent of the child posted, even though the face was blocked, I would be very upset. While there is no way a random person could place the child, I would be mortified to have a friend or family member find it and realize, "Hey, that's Nicole's nanny and kid!" It is never ok to post photos of innocent children, even innocently, on a blog like this.
If you crazies out for blood want pictures, start a new web page that post pictures of bad nannies. (or parents) It's one thing to expose bad adults, but children? What is this country coming to?!
this blog does ask for pics of nannies, not children.
what is this world coming to?
http://dirtyscoop.com
and stay away from flickr is candid shots bother you.
you are probably on there in one of the people watching groups.
you're not in kansas anymore.
The picture of the little barefoot girl was posted to make a point- period. Her face, even her hair, was not exposed so all of the comments about randomly photographing children in parks and at the beach are ridiculous. That was not the case with this picture. But why not contact the people who broadcast baseball games, football games, and other events at which crowd scenes are shown and tell them they are exposing the innocent children in the shots to perverts who could record them and then stalk the children, salivate over them, or send stills out over the internet?
You people are beyond crazy. The point was that no picture of a child should ever be posted here. Face covered or not.
Unhinged chick.
Do not, not, not
click here
1135, you take the cake for unhinged. How sad that you have that much free time. Seriously, you need a hobby. Better yet, go spend a little more time with your children. They're obviously in need of your time.
To 'Ro' at 2:35PM:
I am not "Victim of Child Abuse" at 2:30PM, and I will not make fun of the person.
I was nearly snatched at age 12, and I don't appreciate you making fun of that very scary moment in my life. I can't believe your level of insensitivity.
Kelly.
Kelly, maybe you should take a long hot bath at the end of the day. You sound riled up. I wasn't in anymay making fun of what I am certain was a traumatic incident. I do believe that you are overly stressed at the thought of what basically amounted to an outfit- on a blog.
Don't you take advantage of the post office's photo stamps? I just ordered 80 dollars worth for father's day for my DH, my dad and fil. Do you think that is "wrong" to have stamps with my children's picture on them? In the hands of ... gasp... a postal worker prone to... well going postal?
Interesting Ro! Whyever would the U.S. Post Office take part in something sure to turn pedophiles into stamp collectors? Maybe Kelly over-reacted because of her early experience, but over-react she did. However, she's a dandy poster and often adds some very good stuff to this blog. Blog on, Kelley!!
I think, ro, that you have serious rage issues. It's not nice to belittle others and make fun of their fears. You're setting a bad example for your children. Figures someone like you would put their children on stamps.
Yeah, we should cut Kelly some slack. She means no harm. She cares about children. Maybe she has PTSD?
I was thinking more along the lines that any postal worker, stamp collecter or mail recipient might be turned into a pedophile...
Isn't that the off based logic we are working with here?
The mere "suggestion" of a child is enough to cause perverts to line up? Not buying it. Sorry.
I'm overprotective, but this?
If the world is that crazy, why would anyone even have children?
Well then, were you preaching to me or to the other person? You seem to have merged me with 2:30PM. If you were preaching to me, what really is your problem with me. Please address me separately because I am truly offended and hurt by your remarks.
So how many of you think that photo stamps are a bad idea and that evil will come to your children as a result of this?
I am seriously interested in what you have to say.
tr, why is it when you log on, comments post instantly? Is there something you're not telling us? ;)
To 'Ro' at 12:23AM
Well then, were you preaching to me or to the other person? You seem to have merged me with 2:30PM. If you were preaching to me, what really is your problem with me. Please address me separately because I am truly offended and hurt by your remarks.
I'm a nurse & work until 12. I come home & surf the net just to unwind. I found about this blog this weekend, so I'm pretty new compared to the rest of you all.
I just think they're kind lame. Sorry it came accross the wrong way.
Yes, Kelly. I think I misread that. My apologies.
Who is the "unhinged chick" post addressed to?
tr, I just thought it was funny last night the same thing happened. Hey, is this night two of the Night Owl Club?
Did anyone logged on now write the Unhinged Chik post?
I have to be up by 5, so I am leaving. Here's hoping that miserable slag Paris Hilton is back in her jail cell by noon.
Later...
I didn't. I think it was directed at Kelly, even if not justified.
Ro, apologies accepted. Lets move on. Life is short (even though I never thought I'd actually cry over a blog comment). Clean start? How about we join the Night Owl's Club?
every day I come here looking for some nasty nanny pics. and this blog has yet to deliver. must be shakin in your boots. afraid of libel and slander charges...
Paris Hilton:
she'll be poolside wearing her sunscreen and drinking a margarita about noon tomorrow, while all the other poor suckers down at the L.A. jail will be sweating it up in their 115 degree jail cells and eating a stale peanut butter sandwich.
You know, I loathe Al Sharpton and Jesse boy Jackson, but I hope they push this "injustice and outrage" as far and relentlessly as they did when demanding Imus's outing. It's not just the blacks who are down trodden in this country anymore. It goes by socio-economic classifications. Fame, fortune and connections trump justice every time.
London Mom here-
I don't understand the nannies in America. This doesn't happen over here. (And dont bring up the random, crazy au pair).
Our headline today-
Paris Hilton ordered back to court
(from The london paper),
Hours after US socialite Paris Hilton was sent home under house arrest, the judge who originally put her in jail ordered her back to court to determine ...
Get it together!
The anorexic cokewhore was complaining that the jail cell was too cold.
Her only possible malady she was experiencing would be the DTS.
Alcoholic Fool.
I'd rather see Tom Sizemore out and about. Paris represent everything that is wrong in the world.
Hey London Mom,
Can you get us some bad nanny sightings over there? Or are they all above the bad nannies we seem to have here? Don't you have foreigners coming into your country as aupairs?
But geez, who could ever forget the killer aupair, Louise, who I hear has a baby of her own now. They should have sterilized her.
Hey London Mom,
Can you get us some bad nanny sightings over there? Or are they all above the bad nannies we seem to have here? Don't you have foreigners coming into your country as aupairs?
But geez, who could ever forget the killer aupair, Louise, who I hear has a baby of her own now. They should have sterilized her.
Isn't it like 4 AM in London now?
London Mom,
Are you saying that nannies in the UK are better than nannies in America? I haven't been to Texas, but I hear that nannies over there are great.
Texas nannies?
What the ????????????????????
I love Suppernanny Jo. British nannies are the bestest! :)
Hey Night Owls!
This has become my favorite time of day on this blog.
Hi JMT! I'm so glad you joined in on the fun! BTW, I googled STD photos, and as you suggested on the other post, do so on an empty stomach!! Yeach...I haven't been able to eat since...hehe
Is Jo Frost as good as the real hardcore British nannies, or is she just being used for her accent (which Americans eat up). I like all the concrete tips she gives that are really useful.
JMT for President!
Jo has the best tips. Many have worked for my 3yr. old son. I love that she is a no spank kind of nanny.
No, not President! Then she wouldn't have time to hang with us anymore!! :(
Goodnight Night Owls! Talk to you all next week, hopefully. Have a great weekend!
If I was the President right now, I wouldn't be able to sleep. Trust me! Too much trouble in the world. I'd still hang out. ISYN would be the only fun in the day. lol
How anyone in DC can sleep is beyond me.
Great idea. I would love for JMT to be president. Talk about landslide victory and world peace. Also, maybe massage therapy sessions would be mandatory for all those working over 30 hours a week. Family Medical Leave would be extended from 12 weeks to 16 weeks (really could have used the extra 4 weeks). Hopefully some nannies and parents would be sent to mandatory parenting school. I too say JMT for President! Cheers!
You have my vote! Cheers!
Good Night NIght Owls. I am falling on my face. I thought I could stay up long but I have succumbed.
But what do we do about Florida? Did they fix their voting machines?
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all outta bubble gum."
Rowdy Roddy Piper in They Live!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
That would be my very simple platform. Go USA! Good night!
10:54:
If you left NYC and never looked back, it's because you never belonged here to begin with.
Doesn't this site have a chat feature? Why do we have to wade through 40 shooting-the-breeze posts to get to the relevant stuff?
And still whenever I use my name the post doen't post. What am I doing wrong?
We are working on setting up an I SAW YOUR NANNY chatroom. To try it out, please go here:
http://www.meebo.com/room/isawyournanny/
Your right, 723. My family has values. We love the fact that we don't have to put up with all the rif-raff crowding the streets. We love having a huge house with a yard. We enjoy how it allows us the opportunity to feel safe. Oh, yeah, and we don't miss the rude, crabby, always in a rush crowd. It's really sad that you think a slower pace of life is a bad thing. My marriage is better, my children feel more secure and safe, and the parks here are waaayy better. Enjoy living like a sardine. As for me and my family, thanks, but we enjoy our evenings in our backyard with our feet up.
for the canadian girl:
you are an idiot. is it so boring where you are that you write such crap, you bitch idiot
3:31:
It's really OK with me that you're not here anymore. I promise.
If your marriage can't take the heat....
331, actually, my marriage was wonderful before we left, but it's even better now. I'm not a "throw religion in your face" kind of person, but spiritually, it was what our family needed. Our circle in NY was so superficial. It came to a point where we didn't know who our true friends were. The demands of our jobs was too much for our children, and we could see their suffering for it. Leaving kind of felt like getting our of Dodge for us. I will apologize if I came across as smug, as I feel you are being, too. Everyone knows what is best for their own family. This is what we needed. Good for you that you thrive in your enviroment. We are thriving in ours. But I do love to go back every once and a while. The food...sob...the shows...miss the shows.
835, your language make you sound like some kind of backwoods hick, or a thirteen year old boy pretending to be an adult. Go find something to do. You sound bored.
Are you kidding me with this BS?
Post the picture.
Moderator, Do not listen to this crap. They are way off base.
1103, your way off base. There is no reason to post pictures of children on a blog like this. Now sleeping nannies, go for it.
Man, leave it alone. The child was headless. The only thing about her that gave a clue who she was were her dity feet on the pavement and a pink outfit.
If the image of a child excited you that much, perhaps you need help.
Predators and perves have jc penney catalogues.
This is the most ridiculous back and fourth I have ever seen. Dooce has like one of the top rated blogs ever. And? It's all pictures of her, her husband and their child and their house.
This is absolutely pathetic. Have you people nothing better to do with your lives. Walking barefoot is extremely healthy, safe, and a bit of dirt now and then is surprisingly good for you.. My kids go barefoot all the time, rain or shine, only wearing shoes when it is too cold. You'll never see them with athletes foot, bunions, ingrown toenails..etc..
It's pure social stigma that people object to bare feet. What isn't right for you doesn't mean everyone else has to follow your rules.
Man has been walking barefoot quite happily since he stood upright. It's only society that enforces shoes. Go to New Zealand, Hawaii and parts of Australia. Western countries where kids are allowed to go to school barefoot. The world doesn;t stop spinning if you aren't wearing shoes.
Daz
you people have clearly never been to tompkins square park. During the day it is pleasant enough, but there are still plenty of shady people walking around. At night it becomes a drug den. Do you want your children stepping on used needles? or a broken crack pipe? better safe than sorry, leave the shoes on when in new york city playgrounds.
I hope the parents find the pics to report this lady for taking unasked for pictures of their kids. Take a picture of the nanny but you can't use pictures without permission of the parents.
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