Received Monday, March 12, 2007
There is a homeowners association in Newport Beach/Irvine Califonia called 1 Ford Road. Several wealthy families live here and there are numerous nannies. A few days ago my husband saw a hispanic nanny pushing a baby boy(maybe 1 or 2) in a stroller. He started to cry and she responded by shaking the sroller side to side. He stopped crying for a little bit and then he cried again. She shook it harder, very violently and when he kept crying she hit the stroller into a fence causing his head to jerk back and forth. Of course the baby only cried more and she was saying shut up and other things in spanish. If you live in this association and have a nanny watch out. There are several that go to the park every day and talk to each other the whole time while the kids run around unsupervised.
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OP, do you think you can get some more details from your husband? even if it is just a stroller description, time, etc?
sounds like child abuse to me,,,"causing his head to jerk back and forth"...
that's a real case of child abuse from your description, one I'd have reported to authorities after having confronted the stroller-pushing nanny forthwith. The neck is the most frail part of the human body, but it's my heart that's aching when I think of the poor little guy on the receiving end of such cruel and undeserved violence.
That is serious abuse. Ask your husband to keep on the lookout for this nanny, and if he sees her again to get a detailed decription of her, the child, and the stroller.
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that is obvious abuse.but the poor little guy! think of the money his parents will save on therapy if they fire that ghastly nanny.
I bet the poor little boys Mommy was getting a great work-out at the gym while this was going on. Rich, horrible, mothers who pawn their kids off on nannies.
And the reason your husband didn't call the police??? Ever heard of Shaken Baby Syndrome????
And your husband did nothing because...... ????
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!?
This is definitely child abuse. You should contact the authorities with a description of the nanny and child.
This woman needs to be arrested. Or perhaps shaken violently until she has shaken baby syndrome and brain damage. So evil! And I hope the parents noticed some bruises on their son or something and took him to the doctor. He could really be hurt internally. You know the nanny would never even understand what she might have done.
OMG... These people make me fantasize about homocide. With my bare hands.
Why take a job caring for children if you have no love for them or patience? Go work at Starbuck's. You'll get health coverage!!! Unless, of course, she's another illegal nanny hired under the radar by a WEALTHY family who obviously doesn't give a damn about their baby. Another category of people who drive me to fantasy homicide.
The fact that the husband didn't A, approach this psychotic nanny and try to stop the incident from getting worse or B, report her to the authorities makes him as much of a jackass as the nanny. I read some of these posts and wonder what on Earth is wrong with the people who are posting these stories.. they witness child abuse and do nothing. HELLO! Get a clue! Help the child because in most instances the children can not help themselves!! You wouldn't want it done to your child, would you???
What does a child being violently shook in his stroller have to do with whether or not the mother was working out or not? I have a nanny and a full time job and if I can fit it in on my lunch hour, I work out during the day.
How dare you turn the tables and try again to blame the mother!
In your limited view of the world, everyone with a nanny is "a rich and horrible mother" who deserved for her child to be abused?
What is your story? Burned out Stay at home mother? Disgruntled Nanny?
Have you no shame?
oh how interesting that you can all sit back on your asses in padded leather chairs and mock this husband for not doing more. when in fact, studies and surveys shoe that men are only likely to get involved 8 percent of the time. Women actually got involved more often, but still only 11 percent of the time. i am a realist and i too could say, 'oh but he shouldaa..coulda..' but let's not judge. hindsight is always 20/20. face the hard, cold fact that people don't get involved and try to do better when faced with similiar challenges. but if you fail to get involved and see something, don't give up. call the school. call the authorities, ask what you should do. keep your eye out for the nanny in the future.
but most importantly dont come on here barking like hyenas at some man you dont know. his wife probably told him the same thing but at that point and time, thankfully she still did something with the information.
too many people let the moment slip away and dont even attempt to reach out.
Ummmm... ok.. let me get this straight: Studies show that people don't like to get involved, so that makes it ok to not get involved because that's what everyone else would do? You're talking out of your ass. If it was YOUR child, I guarantee you would have a completely different opinion. If this was my child, I would hope to God someone would step in and do the right thing. If this had happened in front of my eyes, the nanny wouldn't have gotten away with it. I would've intervened and called the police on the spot.
As for your padded chair comment, that was just a ridiculous thing to say, grow up.
The padded chair comment was on spot. You can't sit in judgement. You weren't there. In hindsight, people have regret. Maybe person even realized it was worse than it was or how bad it was after the fact? I think all of these commentaters that promise they would have done something in the same situation provide a parent a false sense of security. The fact is most people would not get involved. And most people justify not getting involved by pretending not to see anything. So what I am saying is this person did more than the average person. It isn't a perfect world and more people should get involed. Before you beat someone into submission for trying to do something after failing the first time around, why don't you consider the message that you send? I read an article on here by a nanny that was about how to intervene and what to do if you see someone being mistreated in public. Now, that kind of stuff is helpful. And you really have to be careful how you get involved because saying something to the nanny-what if that is your only option? Wouldn't you be concerned that you would piss the nanny off further and she would take it out on the child later???
that is a terrible story. Shame on the nanny for disgusting behavior. But, before we go on and on about working/working out moms, I think it should be reminded that NO ONE SETS OUT TO BE A TERRIBLE MOTHER.
re, "NO ONE SETS OUT TO BE A TERRIBLE MOTHER."
who are you speaking about?
A friend? A relative? Yourself?
Buy a book on parenting, read it.
Yes, there are now instruction manuals. Children don't need to suffer.
And if you are talking about the working/work out mom-Mothers work becuse they choose but most often because they have too. And second, mothers who work out are healthier and happier. Working out is the antidote to depression.
If I saw a nanny on here that looked like a nanny I knew, I would email it to the parent. If I didn't know the parent, I would email it to the parent's friends. If I didn't know the parent's friends, I would email it to the child's school, the school district or the location it took place. All is not lost for this little guy. Utilize the EMAIL THIS link.
this is the worst thing i've read on this site so far.I would of topped and asked her name and then went straight to police that is just unexcetable and disgusting.Some people just make me sick children are a gift from god.
I can't judge? Sure I can. The man stood there watching a baby being abused and did nothing. What kind of man is that? What kind of humans are you people?
u were not there. u don't know what he saw. maybe he was in a car driving by.
the whole story can't be told in one post.
my point is he did more than most.
and yes, i would like to think that i would have done something.
but i am not a hypocrit, i am not going to pretend to know for certain because i don't know the details!
Yes, I do know what he saw because he told his wife and she told us, instead of telling someone who can do something about it.
In the meantime while we sit here arguing, the baby could shaken into oblivion.
OP, do you know about shaken baby syndrome? If that were YOUR child, would you want somebody to do something about it?
Get off your gossipy behind and call the police.
11:54 he couldn't have been driving by if he saw the abuse for several minutes and he heard her speaking to the baby.
As someone who has called the police after witnessing child abuse in a mall parking lot, I can tell you that I would have called the police for sure!
fyi The Police were called & based upon the description of events, nothing could be done. Perhaps because it is an upscale area?Gated communities = special perks.
A homeless lady 25 years old- (unfortunatley-Homeless) while pushing a shopping cart down a two lane road with everything she owned- including Teddy Bear- was hit by a driver, she was thrown 150 feet, two broken legs, massive head injuries...(now get this) she lay on the side of the road frost bitten for "SEVEN HOURS" and no one stopped to help her! She has survived and is now in the hospital...But my God! Seven solid hours covered with frost- I'm very touched by this...It does however, remind me of the time I stopped to help a man flat on his back- on the edge of the road, he jummped up and attacked me- screaming..."I'm going to kill you", "I'm going to kill you"!!! ( I'm hesitant to say the least) But where are our humanitarian values today?
12:50 PM Sometimes you have to consider your own safety as in the case of the man alongside a road lying flat on his back. Sometimes you have to act right away, as in the case of a defenseless child being abused. Do you take the risk or not? Bravery is not apparently a trait of many Americans today. There are so many cowardly wimpy men in today's society. They make me sick with their ugly sandles, barefeet and bermuda shorts marching in some protest or another but when it comes to really doing something, they are missing in action.
A man on his back seems less harmful to me than some of the big & menacing nannies that have crossed my path.
ROFL!
1:04, you got me to spit out my tea.
Now back to the matter at hand. The police were called my big white cellulite ridden behind!
If it wasn't mentioned upfront, it didn't happen.
If I were you I'd be back at that spot waiting for that witch to show back up. Git her!
1:36 - I definitely agree with you! And they could do nothing? Bull Shit! Especially in an "upscale" community they would do something. I agree, I would definitely be back there waiting for the nanny's return!
If the police won't do anything, how about CPS? I bet they wouldn't cut a gated community any perks.
Once again, I am here to post my post...*LOL*
First, yes, OK, the husband should have said something to authorities about what he saw. What he needeed was an accurate description of the nanny, child, stroller, etc. I doubt the police could have done anything, yet, it didn't hurt to try and contact authorities. I live in a large Midwestern city and had dropped my mother-in-law off after we went shopping and observed two small children waiting by a city bus stop alone. I immediately called police, who told me they would send a squad out to the area. After driving about 2 miles in the opposite direction, I headed back to the bus stop where the children were waiting, and saw an older child, about 12 or 13, waiting with those children. More and more children arrived at this stop, and the police got there shortly after I arrived. I felt stupid for doing what I did, yet I had to do it. As a mother and nanny, I wouldn't dare have my children or want a child waiting for a bus stop alone.
Anyone who works with children-teacher, daycare provider, or nanny-has to report child abuse and neglect. In WI, (where I live) if you see abuse and don't report it, you can lose your job in a daycare or school. Children who are abused often grow up to have cognitive problems, social-emotional and poor self-esteem. I know, cuz I was abused as a child. I have a great boyfriend and best friends who are the greatest people in the world, and although I am fine, I still carry some scars from my father's treatment of me as a child. As with most abused children, eye contact is hard for me to maintain.
Whether to say the husband is guilty of not reporting what he saw is not the issue;he could have reported it and he chose not to, for whatever reason. If you should see something like this, report it immediately!
Seems like good nannies are hard to find...The nanny sounds like she jumped off a burrito truck...
y' all are delusional. how often do you think CPS or DFC goes out to the mansions in Greenwich, CT or COTA? Not that often, but likelihood of actually filing a report is like nil. you can buy everything in the US.
I am the OP and my husband was not in the position to handle the situation. If he was he would have followed the nanny home, got the address and notified the parents. There were other witnesses as well, but the nannies probably protect each other. If he sees the same nanny and child in the future he will ensure the parents know. I agree it is horrible and wish there was some way to identify the nanny or little boy, he really doesnt remember any stroller details.
Not in the position to help a shaken baby?
Good luck with him and his judgement calls in the future!
you're all hypocrites. first of all this is the second, yes SECOND posting about a stroller shaker. maybe it is a new epidemic that needs to be examined?
by the by, if i was walking down the street with my twin, i would not be in a position to jump in!
Why wouldn't you jump in? 90% of you have cell phones. CALL. THE. POLICE. 911. Write the number down and use it.
Secondly, what will this nanny do to a grown man? Was he afriad she'd shake him too?
Sickening. Let's just hope no one turns a blind eye to your own kids.
I think we need to focus on the nanny at hand here. And the harm she is doing to a child.
Stop passing judgment on people who didn't jump in when yes THEY SHOULD HAVE. In a perfect world, everyone would jump in all of the time. But people do not get involved. They just DO NOT.
It'll be a cold day in hell when I turn into one of those people. Anyone who shakes a baby in front of me is going DOWN.
As a young mother, I once witnessed a sickening display of child abuse in the neighborhood. Afraid of the father of the child myself, I did nothing. I froze and couldn't even say much other than to try to say I didn't think what the little boy did merited the kind of punishment I was witnessing. My words had no effect on the maniacal father as he continued to beat his little boy with his fists, pummelling the child's head.
To this day, when I recall that incident, I am filled with disgust at myself. Had I seen the nanny shaking that stroller, a team of horses couldn't have held me back.
I would have confronted her and there would have been no more shaking except maybe her knees as we waited for the cops to arrive.
One time, in a local convenient store, I saw a mean very young mom abusing her ~three year old child. The kid was doing normal 3-y-o things like asking for a banana and trying to touch them. He was not at all out of hand. She kept yanking his arm, swearing at him, slapping him, and otherwise acting like a 3-y-o herself. She was loud and obnoxious and didn't give a rip that everyone was watching her hurt her child.
So I said something to her, in a nonconfrontational way, along the lines of "he's only little -- don't hurt him," which was met with her rage & psychosis. She immediately got in my face and began swearing at me, making a huge scene. I headed for the door, and she followed me right out of the store swearing and spitting at me. Yes, spitting. Her boyfriend, too. My boyfriend was in the car waiting for me, and I jumped in like it was a getaway car. As we pulled out, she spat right on the driver's side window, screaming obscenities all the while.
It was lovely. My point is, I guess, that it's not always safe to intervene. Although that incident won't deter me from dealing with situations of abuse, I'll probably be a little more careful with how I do it (confronting versus reporting) when the situation seems at all questionable. People are unpredictable.
I saw a similiar situation in front of 29 Marble Sands the other day in Bonita Canyon, but this was the father striking his child. My husband says it is the same guy who was a little too friendly with our daughter the other day in the market. My husband has said that this guy is a known pervert and his wife is just scared into submission.
If you have any information that could lead to the identification of whose nanny this could be please call (949) 720-3745 or email kvils@keystonepacific.com as soon as possible.
Why? What is going on?
Please advise.
I have seen several nannies at the park/playground in One Ford Road chatting with each other while very small kids run wild. The nannies don't even look at the kids. The same thing happens at the pool in the summer. Do NOT assume your nanny is actually looking after your child!
Snap some pictures. Send in some sightings. Let's go.
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