Received Thursday, January 4, 2006
Babysitter using a Starbucks gift card for a large coffee frappucino with a shot of espresso and whipcream. She was with a girlfriend who had a latte (hot coffee drink) and a four year old blonde headed boy. It was around 5PM. They sat at a table and she gave the boy some square cheese crackers from a baggy from her purse. The boy wanted to taste her caffeine drink and she let him have a sample three times. Three times! Her friend even commented about the caffeine having him bouncing off the walls and the babysitter said "I'm done at 6, they'll have to deal" and she laughed. I realize this is minor, but it just seemed like such a bitchy thing to do! The babysitter was attractive with long, dark, straight hair and very green eyes. The boy who was probably 4 was wearing a blue and yellow vertically striped polo shirt. This was Wednesday. As a mother of two children under 6, I had a problem with what I observed. If you do not share my concern, that is your perogative.
Additionally, I would like to add that it would be very obnoxious of an employee to send her employer the Nanny Bonus feature anonymously. And if someone did choose to do that hoping to affect a specific result, I think they will find they sorely miscalculated my tolerance for such antics.
121 comments:
whoa lady put the caffeine down who sent you the bonus items they are right here in front of you on the website no one had to send them to you....
My two children drink starbucks once a day I have a 4 and 6 year old and they are not affected by the caffeine at all. They started young while in italy drinking lattes.
Okay, I think someone's nanny is in trouble... no bonus next year.. wait, probably no JOB next year. That is just damn funny! If you nanny for the no caffiene mommy, and sent her this link, better start looking for a new job! I want MORE details about that part, the Starbucks thing doesnt surprise me at all!
In general, we have to watch out for passive aggressive people.
Wait -- if a nanny "anonymously" sent her employer the bonus feature, wouldn`t the nanny automatically be the only suspect? Why would anyone do that? If someone "anonymously" sent me an article about cleaning women`s bonuses, I would suspect my cleaning woman (who, by the way, got $50 cash and $50 worth of gift cards to her favorite store from me, in case anyone wants to know -- twice a month, she comes and does the heavy cleaning that I don`t require of our au pair).
Maybe someone trying to get a nanny in trouble!
To the first poster,
Are you impaired? anyone can email anyone any single post off this blog. If a nanny did so to make a point- that was a foolish decision because like L said, only the nanny would be suspected. Well I guess it could be a friend who was generous with her nanny and was tired of you being a tightwad and not valuing your nanny of 9 years. Maybe.
the person I used to nanny for always gave her kids coffee. It used to bug me.
parents do this all the time, not to excuse the nanny.
I am guessing that this person would not have submitted this story if not for the comment made by the babysitter when her friend suggested the kid would be bouncing off the wall. IMO.
You are right in the nanny being passive aggressive however,
A little barista secret... espresso based drinks have less caffine than most caffinated sodas and less caffine than drip brewed coffee, because of the "speed" at which espesso is "brewed" there is not as much of the horrific toxin, maybe you need not give your children chocolate which by the way has caffine, as do some medications, as well as soda.
To the poster who lets their children drink Starbucks everyday, perhaps you should invest in a coffee maker... So much more economical! Personally, giving my children an addictive substance like caffeine would never even cross my mind, but hey.. they can start smoking at 13!
But, again, she is the mom, so it's okay for HER to do whatever she wants (as flipping stupid as it is). The nanny however, has to report to mom and dad.
economical? If I relied on the sludge that I made with my $300 coffeemaker, I would be idle! I start my day with a triple latter and have another at 3 PM. Economical. That's funny.
Kitty has claws!
caffine can stunt a childs growth they should not have too much or any thing with caffine But if you want your kids to be short go for it.
maybe this kiddo's mom has cafe au late with him every morning. I think probably not. But what most concerns me about the things i see on this blog, is-Is this how the nanny acts in front of the parents? If she doesn't act the same in front of the parents and treat the children the same when the parents are around, that's scary.
This op is obviously bitter and pissed off! She needs to stop the Starbucks trips or atleast switch to decaf! As for the nanny "being bitchy"..you are so freakin petty!!! sips of coffee are NOT going to have a kid bouncing off the walls! A half of a soda ..maybe..but not 3 sips of coffee!! You need to get a life and quit looking to cause trouble for everyone else!! As for your "Subtle" hint to your bos..grow some and talk to them about the situation ya coward!
3 sips of coffe a day will not stunt growth!!! what is wrong with you !!!!!!
3:24, I think that
A) The OP is making a reference to her nanny re the bonuses.
B) I think that the OP had a problem with the babysitter in the coffee shop making a snide remark about the parents of the child having to deal with a child hopped up on caffeine.
She didn't say 3 sips. She said Three TIMES. A 4 year old probably takes a good amount each time since it looks and tastes like a chocolate shake.
jj you are out there buddy!!! You might want to do some research!! It takes a huge amount Not 3 "mouthfuls a day!! If you are going to post...figure it out first!!!
jj..coffee does not stunt growth!! There is no compelling evidence anywhere that it does!!! If you are going to state it...show us some proof!!
I really don't care. But this seems to have been a ceffeinated beverage ordered with bonus caffeine. And quite frankly, that in and of itself wouldn't have bothered me. If the nanny had responded to her friend by saying "it doesn't affect him" or anything else but what she said. No big deal. In fact in the scheme of all things, it is no big deal.
jj is not the one who said caffeine stunts growth. and a 4 year old should not be having caffeine! And as to your argument regarding soda- my child does not drink soda for that reason! (and Others)
PS Caffeine stunts growth.
jj.."you really don't care"??? Your post was bogus..you should care idiot!!!
335...show us the proof that caffeine stunts growth!!
anon :35 can you please tell us what you are basing your statements on?"Caffeine stunts growth"
"Scientists have found NO PROOF that coffe stunts growth" You guys are all full of shit!!!
Do you think you could make your point without namecalling? Why would you be so irritated unless you are a nanny or parent that approves of giving caffeine to children, in which case-just say so!
I never said caffeine stunts growth.
Caffeine is a stimulant. I would not freak out over my child tasting any caffeinated beverage though! I would be concerned about employing a nanny who's attitude seemed to be "whatever".
I think it`s a good thing that the OP included the line, "...I had a problem with what I observed. If you do not share my concern, that is your perogative."
I hope she is just as clear when dealing with her nanny, to make sure everyone is on the same page as far as what is expected and what it permitted. Caffeine isn`t exactly poisonous, but it is a mild stimulant, and while some kids don`t react to it, others do.
If my 4 year told me that she drank coffee, and make no mistake -she would tell me - I'd politely tell the nanny not to do it again.
If I overheard her making a snide remark like "I get off at 6," I'd be pissed. It definitely shows a lack of respect.
Whatever. Another disgruntled employee. What else is new?
Regarding, "In general, we have to watch out for passive aggressive people."
One time I called myself passive agressive and now that is how you permanently see me? A passive agressive troublemaker?
A tempest in a coffee pot.
still waiting for proof that caffine stunts youir growth...my parents used to tell me that, and then I realized that my mom had control issues.
Bahahahahahahahahaha
They will not provide proof because there is none!Just more posters trying to make an otherwise useless and ridiculous "sighting" stick!
Make a sighting stick? Who cares whether or not caffeeine stunts growth. The OP didn't say that. The OP said she would have a problem if it were child and the nanny had such a nonchalant attitude. I love how you can make this into a must have scientific proof or this can't stick. Guess what, this nanny doesn't sound very professional or very caring about her charge. Go work on your mommy blog, nanny!
I'll say it if no one else will! I read the "submission guidelines". The submission guidelines say if you are witnessing abuse, to call the police or CPS. That is a good thing. So I don't understand why these nannies come on here and scream about every post. We don't want to read a post where a child is actually being abused and someone comes here to blog about it! These posts are often not abusive. I would call them misdeeds. As someone who employes 2 nannies (and has employed over a dozen in my lifetime), I find the stories interesting. These things often bring to mind things I might want to ask my child about his or her day with the nanny. I am a proud professional woman and I think I employ two stellar nannies. This blog makes me value the nannies I have (and have had-some of which were BETTER than Mary Poppins) and to keep an open line of communication between my children and I. So whatever goes on between them and any person they spend time with- is something they can speak to me about freely! And openly! And speaking as someone who's best friend caught her "perfect" nanny on a nanny camera doing strange things with Sudafed, I do have to say- you never know! You just never know!
To the "not a thin skinned nanny" the post regarding stunting growth was aimed at poster 224!! You don't have to like it or agree with it but some of us tire at the site of mis-information posted on this blog just because a poster wants to make sure that everyone agrees with what they are saying! Is it too much to ask that while you all attack a poor nanny for sharing with her charge..that you simply get the damn facts straight???
THE OP NEVER MENTIONED COFFEE STUNTING GROWTH! NEVER. You must be uber so sensitive to be so damaged by an anonymous commentators response to an anonymous submission.
12:31,
all good points. I think I get why every post seems to be attacked by people. Demanding proof. It is almost as if they themselves post some random idiotic claim (coffee stunting growth has been disproved and I haven't heard that even referenced since 1978). Doesn't it seem like that though? Then they come back and attack the ludicrous snippet of misinformation as a way of distracting from the intent of the poster, the content of the original post and God forbid, any wrongdoing on the part of the nanny. Who cares that the nanny let the child have a coffee drink? Even if she ordered him his own! Seems to me some nanny caused this poster to come on this blog anyway by oh so dumbly emailing her boss the bonus feature. Trying to make a point? I seriously do not understand how you are sooooo sensitive and sooo intensely demanding proof from ONE one random idiot who referenced caffeine stunting growth. Now, in closing I would like to say that we are a Vegan family and eat a very restrictive diet. I don't allow my children sugars, caffeine or many things. And my nanny knows this. And is respectful of this! She works a long day so I would never tell her that she can't eat her food choices in our home. I am sure she often has things that are enticing to my preteen children. But the answer must be no, because I say so!
I make comments ALL the time to my boss.."well,I'm off at 5..they are all yours" or "you have fun now" after giving the kids icecream or something sweet or if an afternoon nap has been missed!! it is not bitchy or rotten...the nanny has not lost her sense of humour ..unlike the dried out ,bitter posters on this site have!! lighten up for crying out loud! She brought snacks for the kid,shared HER drink with him..you people just can't be pleased!She sounds fabulous & I'd hire her in a second if she treated my child that well on an outing!It's all about the kids not you complaining posters!
Don't you imagine that some of these people post these sightings like the Toys R Us one because they see a tone or facial expression that conveys a disregard for the child. And angry face, a frustrated response. We do have the right to be critical of the people caring for our children. Really, we do!
Mel..you are critical..trust me!Really you are!
Oh honey, are we really going to play this game? You are a nanny. Accustom yourself to your station in life. The hired help doesn't usually hire their own help. "I would hire her myself" As if.
And by the way, in the USA, it's humor. No U!
oh,okay well if the case is that we are too defensive because we ask for correct facts then I get it. This blog is a free for all..let's start posting what we perceive as truth along with old wives tales as factual...sounds great ! I hope you don't teach your children along those same lines!
"As a mother of two children under 6, I had a problem with what I observed. If you do not share my concern, that is your perogative."
That is what OP said.
I had a problem with a coworker who was stealing legal pads of paper, realms of copy paper, boxes of pens, etc from the office. So I brought this to the attention of someone else. That someone else looked at me like I was a despicable nark.
Cut to two months later when the very same person was fired because she had stolen several checks and forged them from one of the partners. As well as some petty cash.
Connect the dots.
Tow the line.
jc..see..you have a sense of humor..please share it with the others!!!
1253..you need to go to bed!
ONE person posted about caffeine stunting growth and every other poster said that is not true! Why can't you let it go?
What do you want a retraction from the original anonymous poster??????
I hate to namecall, but you are a thin skinned FOOL!
jc...I love gay men...you give her hell girlfriend!!
12:52,
You so definitely suffer from a rage disorder. I can just picture you glued to your computer screen, on the edge of your seat, eyes bulging, fingers pounding the keyboard, vein pulsating in your forehead.
Calm down.
Caffeine doesn't stunt growth. Ok. Calm down. Let's count to ten. Take a walk around the block. Take a chill.
12:55 maybe YOU should let it go. You seem awfully riled up..maybe you spen too much time at Starbucks yourself....decaf honey!!!
Is it me or does anyone else think this is Jen posting. Anonymously?
USE YOUR ASHTRAY!
Yes, I am getting the Jen vibe. I can't believe she just evaporated anyway. She is lying in wait. Ready to pounce. On this or that.
Good night. For now.
Actually,I am getting a fabulous back massage as I post away..see..just because I come back with a post that you happen to not agree does not mean I am defensive or in a rage but rather amused by most of you..others of you just bore me.Mel..you bore me..not a TS nanny too but jc you are fabulous!!!And much to your dismay..it's not Jen..i myself have posted about her..she bores me too! She is much too needy!
You use your ashtray!
Jen?
Dear Nanny,
Just wanted to touch base with regarding caffeine consumption & the children. Under no circumstance should the children have caffeinated beverages or chocolate. As you know Child A has ADD and the last thing he needs is more stimulation. Thanks for all the great work you do all year long. I know you love coffee, so here is a gift card for you.
what the he@# does "use your ashtray mean???"
jc..you are so funny!! God I love you!!!!!!!!!!Night "Boss"
I don't care who ya are..that there was funny!
mel..did you really sign off???
The person who posted this had a stick up her butt about receiving the bonus survey anonymously from her nanny. So perhaps she was extra critical of the next nanny she encountered?
It is fun finding all of the same people on the different blogs!! Some of you are so predictable while others keep me guessing!
Use your ashtray..I could'nt agree more!!!
Yes..she is bitter towards her nanny and now taking it out on all coffee drinking nannies of the world!!
Did anybody think that this nanny seemed to really have it together..sharing at the childs request and having snacks on hand??
I noticed the preparedness of the nanny. But I have to imagine that something that the OP observed did not sit well with her. It was not limited to the ingestion of the drink or her tart response. Sometimes, you really have to be there.
1258, hahahaha! Nope, not me. Just popped on here a moment ago. I wondered how long before someone would think I would post anon. Not yet, but time will tell...
1247, I agree with you- when the nanny jests with the parents. But to jest like that with a friend, well, that comes across as snotty and snide. And rude. Personally, I would expect my nanny to pick up an uncaffenated soda or a milk for my son. That is why I give her extra money for both of their treats out. I don't think three sips is all that bad, but we prefer not to give our son caffeine.
jc,BTW. re :your 1250am post...yes I am a nanny!! I HAVE accustomed myself to my station in life..I own a home ,an suv and get to play with my child as well as 2 others all day long!! I get 2 weeks paid vacations yearly,all legal holidays off..paid..8 pd days sick leave..I have vacationed in Italy, The Bahamas,France ,Germany and more fabulous destinations than you could imagine with my husband & children!!You see I am not a babysitter who washes my boss's undies..I am a nanny who makes bank and I have all the perks!! So, while you are busy with your job ..where are your children? BTW..some nannies make outrages salaries becuase we know where to look and we do a damn good job!! I own my home..how about you? I'd bet my sweet ass I make more in 6 months than you do in a year!! BTW..I would hire the coffe drinking nanny in a second but I have no need for her as I am with my child all day!! So next time you want to butt heads with someone..maybe you should aim for a nanny that bitches and complains about her horrible job and crappy bosses...As for me..I am finished with my massage and finished with you..nighty night!!! See you on the next blog!!See told you I was not jen!!
no, you have not accustomed yourself to your station in life if you are traveling abroad and owning a home and driving a SUV. You should be renting a tenement and driving a Taurus.
Oh ,like you?????
How could you so densely boast that you would hire the coffee drinking nanny? Is this based solely on her sharing her drink with the child and packing crackers? I expect a little more than that- at least before I would so grandly state that I would hire such a person in a heartbeat. She may have been a wonderful nanny. She sure sounds pretty to look at, but let's not be ridiculous. Just like you cannot deduce a nanny is necessarily bad from a post on here, you sure can't assume they are aces!
Oh vey!
hh..another one who "knows all" Boring right up there with mel and a thin skinned nanny!! Come on hh..where is thet temper of your..let's see it!!
to the poster,,hh..you are the people that take things too far..always blowing things out of proportion!!Like sunshine in the eyes and so many of the other blogs you post on!! Jeesh!!
Headline in tomorrow's paper
"Nanny brings Cheez iIs to Starbucks and is crowned Nanny of the Year"
to the anon jerk stating that "nannies should know their station in life..drive a Taurus and rent a dump"..you are an ASS!!! Plain and simple! What is it that you do for a living creep??
No more like nanny jailed for sharing drink at childs request!!
Where the hell did you learn how to spell cheese?????????/
from my jumbo size box of Cheez Its.
Well that explains so much jc!!
Taking things too far?
I simply stated that either way- you cannot judge a nanny from one post. You cannot deduce that she is great or that she is bad!
I certainly didn't take anything too far. Just trying to introduce you all to a little something called Reason 101.
Hey frankly,this bitter mommy loses all credibility!! She should talk to her nanny if she feels the email was sent by her instead all the cat & mouse crap! She just wants to get pissy because she got caught being a cheapass cheapskate and did not give her nanny a bonus!!!
Word!
Good night!
okay hh..now if you come down off your soapbox and join the rest of us you will see that Literally speaking..you are right but if one is trying to make a point..then they speak figuatively!!!!Get it sweetie? Or is that too much for you to understand! Again you take things too far!! Lighten up! This is a blog ..it is not law or written in stone!! Relax!!!
Goodnight jc..even though you despise me..I think you are fabulous!! I love the sense of ***humor***!! See I paid attention and learned something from you!!Sweet dreams!!
spelling aside she is right!!!
sorry..figuratively!!! Goodnight all!!
1:54,
I am going to let that slide and assume you are on your second pint of Popov. Potato Vodka. Ewwww.
hh..you do whatever pleases you honey!!!
LESNYC & Ca Male..is that you ..are you guys back?
135 you need find someone without a backbone to bitch at, she got you there...
Get over it it's frickin coffee.I am a nanny for a 14 month old and i give her a few sips of my chia and she loves it,and she has no problem going down for a nap..Some of this crap on this web site sight is pahetic..
I would be less concerned with hiring a nanny who allowed the child to sample coffee beverages than I would a nanny who couldn't spell and used the word frickin'. When you don't use a space between a comma and the next word in your sentence, you reveal your class. Or lack of. I am glad your 14 month old loves your chia tea. I guess you could make the same argument for Bourbon.
I love steve, you have a good point there. I've been around people who think it's funny to give their children sips of beer out of their bottles. "It didn't hurt me when I was there age." And maybe that's why you're commiting a felony? I don't waste my time around people like that. I myself would never give my child caffeine, chai tea, or sips of things that are in any form stimulates. When do people draw a line?
So, chai drinking nanny, does your employer know you give their child caffeine? If they are ok with that, then it's their choice. But if you do it without their knowledge, you should stop. I have friends who don't drink hot beverages (coffee, hot tea, chai tea, etc.) because of religious reasons. So, just asking.
I love Steve..You know..you are always saying the same thing over & over!!! You are boring ,redundant and obviously unable to address the issues.. so you find a weakness,such as spelling and attack from there!! You do it on every blog you post on!! When you are clever enough to actually address an issue..try again!You can keep coming back but make no mistake that you are not convincing any of us that you are from a class any other than middle or low!!
742, so, are YOU the one on every post who says "You do it on every blog you post on"? "You always say the same thing", blah blah blah. Yeah, heard that one before. Real clever. Funnneeeey. At least his post had a good point.
11:42,
are you with me on this?
It is sooooooo insane for someone to pretend they recognize and can identify someone on a blog. There are a million blogs read by a billion people. Guess what, in any group there may be two posters that hate working mothers, two posters who hate being moms, 2 posters that hate nannies, 2 posters that love nannies, etc!
Dude,
Steve Bartelstein is my evening anchor on ABC New York. Leave him out of this.
I love him so.
1151, sorry your newcaster is being thrashed an attempt at a joke. Hehe. and 1150, I was thinking the same thing. How in the world could anyone think they know who anonymous is. And who posted what on another blog. Maybe they have Sylvia Browne as their psycic. :)
Steve Bartelstein could never be thrashed. He can only be honored. Or celebrated.
http://abclocal.go.com/graphics/v3/wabc/wabc_200.stevebartelstein.jpg
1144 I call a duck a duck!! You are SOOOO repetitive..and I have made a comment or two but have seen other posts that I did not write saying the same damn thing!! It is boring to see you post the same comments..so now you know how i feel!! Deal with it!!
12:08,
Your feelings are very important to me.
oh yeah.
To 1150 & 1203 wow...you two are quite a pair and you are wrong!! You can most certainly get to know the stylized writings of certain bloggers and if you pay attention..you CAN tell who is who! Granted..if someone decides to impersonate another author it can throw you but I know that others out there..more educated than you two hooligans..know what I am talking about!!!
1209 really don't care if they are or not!
so who are you? double dot, double exclamation, occasional cap poster with a chip on her shoulder and resentment towards working mothers and hot blondes?
What is your damage?
Resentment towards working mothers??? Where did you get that from??
As for the hot blonde..yeah ok!! I am sure you are! Thats why you are home blogging on a Friday night!!
hey hot blonde i think you are not that hot cause your selling yourself on a nanny blog on a prime date night? whats up with that?
hot blonde..post your photo!
There is no hot blonde. I think the post was directed to someone who obviously suffers from major JEALOUSY.
jealousy..are you kidding me? Jealous of what? jealousy was never an issue in this blog! Get with it 1228!!
someone is jealous of something! I think it is mothers without choices-who wouldn't make enough money to justify returning to work and are stuck at home that are jealous of mothers with actual careers. You think I can't see that? You may "sacrifice" to stay home with your children, but if you had to choose between what you "sacrificed" and a career that afforded you rexognition, praise and a million dollar bonus- I think you would be singing a different tune!
1208, I'm the 1144 poster. Did I just hear an echo.echo..echo...echo....echo.....
You know who, he he. I look up to very few the way you do Steve. I know I don't look up to a lot of posters here. A bunch of rabid lunatic namecalling crazy, um, silly redundant insane people. But guess that's what makes us all human. Would love to see what the kids are like of the posters here. I picture South Park.
Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
marry me.
Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Why is my comment taking 10 hours to post? Anyone else having that problem too? I'm loosing my steam here.
Yawn...It's been 25 min. since I tried to post. Three times a poster, never a...oh, whatever. I'm sure they'll pop up soon, together. Can't wait to see what people have to post about Laurel and Hardy! Oh, the anticipation!! Hope I can stay awake to see the posts when they do pop!!!! I'm still laughing at my cleverness!! South Park!!!
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