Monday

Broadway between 96 & 97th in NYC

Received Monday, December 11, 2006
1:00 pm , today, Broadway between 96-97 Sts., near Gourmet Garage. The temperature is 55'. A woman steering very overdressed infant twins in a high end carriage. Babies (in striped caps) were pointed directly into the noon sun and whipping their heads from side to side, attempting to shut it out. No response from the caretaker.

127 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is not abuse!! It is Mother Nature. You can have the best stroller available and at some point if you are outside on a sunny day..the sun will shine on the faces of the children. All you can do is hurry around a corner or walk backwards!!!I walk my children everyday to the park and everyday on the way home the sun shines directly in their faces for about 90 seconds!! In mine too! And though it is uncomfortable for a few minutes..it is not in ANYWAY dangerous to the kids!Please tell us what response you are looking for from the caretaker?

irritated mom said...

Once again this a place to report ABUSE. Not to nag on some one who just so hapened not to respond as quickly or efficietly and you would.

Anonymous said...

I thought this was a place to warn parents as to how their children were being cared for? To report actual abuse, there is a link at the top to CPS.

Anonymous said...

This is something that the caregiver might not have noticed. The truth is I might make that mistake myself. I would feel bad though. I know what I do with my child. It isn't abusive. I don't think most of us employ abusive nannies but we still are interested to see how the nannies behave when we are not around.
A friend was asking me today what I did about the little lies that my nanny told me. What little lies? She doesn't know how to handle these little lies that she catches her nanny in. I told her I would not tolerate a nanny who lied. I know my nanny might have a bad day or make a mistake but the good thing is she would probably tell me about it before I read about it on a blog. Because she is that honest. Not everyone is so lucky!

Anonymous said...

Why do people report absurd things like this? Do you even have kids? Have you ever pushed a stroller. I hope you realize how foolish you post is.

Anonymous said...

Why do people report absurd things like this? Do you even have kids? Have you ever pushed a stroller. I hope you realize how foolish you post is. is.

Anonymous said...

I don't know who these outraged people are. People who employ nannies range from wonderful to awful. The second nanny job I had, I was fired from because the mother found photographic evidence that I had dressed her children with combinations she would not have approved of while she was skiing in Aspen. Some people don't care that a nanny is rough or cruel to their child. Those would be the sadistic ones. Other parents pay over $25 an hour to their nanny and the nanny has a job manual that goes with her job and I am guessing such things as sun in the eyes would be covered. Another person said this best, this only matters to the mother of these children. Not you. Not me. That is why it is especially sad to see parents like those in California who were warned about their abusive nanny and decided to just stay the course.

Anonymous said...

I am sick and tired of the person who screeches on every post about whether or not she feels the post belongs on this blog. I just read a question about bonuses and holiday gifts. It had nothing to do with abuse. It was still interesting to read. Whoever you are, you don't need to approve every post, you need to chill out.

Anonymous said...

when taking walks with your infant. ... Children need sunglasses to reduce sun glare and potential eye damage. Eye damage is cumulative. I have to side with the poster on this one. Just like the spanking thing. In 20 years, babies will be wearing sunglasses when they go out on sunny days. We will look back and wonder how we ever managed without them!

Anonymous said...

Okay..I was wondering when the PC crowd would find thid blog!!! Just fabulous!!

Anonymous said...

Seems that there are several people who feel the same. This is a blog for Abuse by nannies or reporting a good nanny. Not just nanny gossip and info.Try googling "Nanny blog" to read about wages and bonus info!! They are not screeching..they are tired of silly & idle reports!

Anonymous said...

Why do you have to bring up spanking? This post had NOTHING to do with that!!

Anonymous said...

In 20 years I will be spanking my grandchildren just as I spank my children now!!

helen said...

I think they are completely over reacting to the post. They have declared war on this post. That is so ridiculous. You had your say. Move on.

Anonymous said...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz to the spanking and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz to the offended nannies. I want to know what my nanny is doing when I am not around. That is why I use a nanny camera. This gives me insight in to the kind of nanny she is and also helped me to decide to fire her. And she didn't do anything negligent. She just didn't care enough or respond enough to my child. Maybe that is what this poster observed?

Anonymous said...

Helen..if you find this post a war zone..perhaps YOU should move on!Now..I have had my Say!

Anonymous said...

I am a nanny and after feeling that my employers were negligent I put a nanny cam in their living room. They are now answering to CPS> So.be careful..what goes around comes around. Ilegal..yes..invasion of privacy..yes..but the video was sent anonymously and the kids are now safe!I did no different than what my boss did to me..only my tape showed what a fabulous nanny I am !So get off your soapbox and be careful all you high & mighty nanny cammers..we might just give you a run for your money..afterall it is all about the kids!

Anonymous said...

you are an idiot. you did not nanny cam your employer. you bitter pill you!

Anonymous said...

Yes I did and you don't have to like it or believe it! I really don't care. I had nothing to lose and helped 3 children out of a very negligent evironment!

Anonymous said...

Name calling shows the level of intelligence we are dealing with here!

Anonymous said...

I thought the level and lack of intelligence was demonstrated by the nanny who claims she nanny cammed her own employers in their home and issues a menacing message to others.

Anonymous said...

helpless, defenseless babies that need you for everything and you are acting alarmed that someone found it odd that the person with whom their total care is dependant on was unable to recognize their discomfort or keep the blinding sun out of their eyes? Have you ever taken care of a baby? Or two? There is a right way and a wrong way.

Anonymous said...

My God you act as if the nanny held these babies up to a blinding light and then beat the hell out of them! What is wrong with you people!! For crying out loud the babies got some sunshine in their eyes!! You people need to get it together and seee how ignorant you are being!It's sunshine. Friggin morons!!

Anonymous said...

I am a Grandma who nanny cammed her own son's home because I too was worried about my grand children. My daughter in law was hitting them with a wooden spoon. My son had no idea! When I originally mentioned my concern he was angry with me. After I showed him the video..he tearfully thanked me. I think the nanny that nanny cammed her employers did the right thing! She was protecting children she obviously loved very much!What just because it's in the parents home it should be allowed??

Anonymous said...

I take care of triplets and on occasion the sun will be shining just at the wrong angle and the sun will get the babies for a few minutes! There is NOTHING I can do about this short of not going out during the day! Yes I can try hats but 10 month olds often pull them off..a blanket has been blown off the the stroller I can't tell you how many times!! Sunglasses would be totally appropriate if we were talking an hour or two in the sun..we are talking1-2 blocks.2 minutes.and just like us babies will close their eyes and squint to protect themselves,,it is a natural reaction!! You are taking this..once again...to the extreme!!

Anonymous said...

You know..if the nanny was sitting inside all day on her ass..you'd complain! She takes the kids outside..you complain..I finally get it! You just want to bitch & moan about something because you have nothing better to do! Kudos to this caregiver/ nanny for venturing out with twins..you are fabulous and a little sunshine never hurt anyone!And you know..if the kids were underdressed you'd complain!!

areeee said...

The yelling on this blog is stupid. I say tell whoever wrote this that this blog is for abuse and move on.

But that just my say.

Anonymous said...

Why is the nanny showing a lack of intelligence? Because she went to extreme lengths to protect the children she cared for? What would you have her do? make a claim to CPS and have them show up when mom & dad are on best behaviour? I think what she did was great.I'd hire her in a second..then again..I have nothing to hide.

Anonymous said...

It's funny..abit off subject from the original post but so many of you complain about the nannies showing lack of interest or enthusiasm..you say they are lazy or mistreating the children..then along comes a nanny who albeit,went a completly different route than I would have, but she demonstrated great love and concern for these children and you all attack her and name call? What CAN a nanny do to win over a crowd of such judgemental people??

Anonymous said...

I think the idea of a nanny who would nanny cam her own employers scares the hell out of some of you high and mightys who might actually have something to hide!! I have ananny who is fabulous and very unconventional..she is someone I could see doing something like this! She loves our children and does a great job protecting them . She yells at people who dare to stick their hands in our stroller without an invite..she tells them off when they offer candy or treats without asking and she sure as hell would turn my husband & I in if we were hurting our kids!I think that you who judge have lost focus..protecting children is a nannies job and that means protecting them from everyone..even bad parents!!And there are just as many bad parents as there are bad nannies out there!!!

Anonymous said...

Our nanny would never do this but if she did all she might catch is a living room romp between my husband and me after the kids are in bed!!! That would most likley be the end of that!!

susan said...

I would be extremely grateful if someone reported this to me.

It *is* abuse. Direct sunlight in a baby's eye for a prolonged peroid can cause permanent damage.

It's obvious that the babies were in distress. She should notice this and take action.

I'd also want to know if my kids were overdressed. I *loathe* seeing overdressed kids, especially when they are indoors (shopping or a class) and the nanny or parent is too lazy to unzip them.

lauren said...

There are parents out there in every corner who abuse their children. People stand by everyday and watch and do nothing. People with more power and influence than the nanny.
Those children that you don't stick up for or help out of their situations, at night what do you think they dream of? Someone to help them. And they remember your face, perhaps shocked and alarmed, but motionless none the less.
So back to the criminally minded nanny-setting up an illegal camera in a home that is not her own-sometimes you have to take grand steps and put grand plans into action to help the children you love. The things you may do may appear unconventional, unwise and controversial but never give up on the children who need you.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you all take the comment in the spirit it was intended. Not every sighting has to be full on abuse. Aren't we glad that they aren't? Jahhhhhhheeeezzzzz

Anonymous said...

Because it was meant in a mean spirited kind of way!! This person did nothing wrong! Sometimes the sun gets in our eyes!! The op said she was steering..walking ..moving! She was most likley caught off gaurd by the direct sun and trying her best to avoid it! What would have liked her to do...please tell us!

Anonymous said...

When you are paying someone to do a job-you expect it to be done RIGHT. Whether they are serving at a dinner party or washing your car or controlling air traffic. There is nothing wrong with this post. It is barely an infraction. But I like that the posts run the gammet.

Anonymous said...

how is taking the kids out and getting caught in the sun not dong your job right?

no one said...

if your job is to drive kids to school on the bus, if you go off a cliff even one time- you haven't done your job. Even if you just rearend someone's toyota camry.

Anonymous said...

you are an idiot!!

susan said...

The fact that you see nothing wrong with babies being blinded by sunlight means that you too don't know how to do your job.

We're not talking about rocket science here, people, it's common sense.

Nannies without common sense should not be employed.

Anonymous said...

8:15 you need a reality check!! You people take things too far!! These babies were out for a walk and got caught in the sun. The nanny was not being negligent..she was being human! You are NOBODY to tell someone they do not know how to do their job!
Were you there? Do you know the whole situation? I don't think so ..you just hear the 20 second summary and suddenly you are an expert on what happened and take it upon yourself to decide this caretaker(who BTW could have been mom)is not doing a good job! A little judgemental are we? How would you feel if you were judged without everyone knowing the whole story?

Anonymous said...

I agreed with the OP. Then I started reading a few other posts! Some of them do have a point. Maybe the nanny/caretaker had an emergency and left the house in a hurry. Maybe she was unaware of an alternate route or maybe it was cloudy when she left the house and the sun came out on the way home.I have been caught in direct sun with out my sunglasses a few times. I also think the post was premature now that I have read many different views of the situation.

Anonymous said...

Susan..what do you do for a living that you are so perfect at??

Anonymous said...

Susan have you ever pushed a double stroller out in public? (I don't mean in the mall!)

Anonymous said...

The problem is not Susan or the fact that the babies were blinded by the sun. It is the fact that someone else noticed and the caregiver did not. Not a huge deal but perhaps could signify whether or not caregiver was tuned in to the baby. I have to imagine when someone sends a sighting like this in, they see something that even if they can't describe causes them to think differently of the situation.

Anonymous said...

Twins require a double stroller. My experience with these srtollers is that they offer a flat cover across the top(over the babies heads) that provides sunshade if the sun id directly overhead. However,if it is not highnoon..the stroller provides no sunshade to the face what so ever!This is true of many strollers for multiples.

Anonymous said...

How do all of you know that the caregiver did not notice what was happening???? The OP said she was steering the stroller. That means it was on the move!! She was probably trying to high-tail it around a corner or around the block.

Anonymous said...

I am a nanny to twins. We walk everywhere! I can't tell you how many times I have had to stop the stroller to collect hats, sunglasses and various other items in the stroller with the girls! So I can tell you 1st hand..while you may have good intentions you are absolutley clueless if you think keeping sunshine out of a baies eyes is as simple as you are trying to make it sound!! Double strollers provide little shade..kids rip hats off and toss them over the side..they pull off sunglasses and use them for chew toys!! Everyone has attacked but NO one has suggested what they would have done differently!! So,,let's hear it!!

Anonymous said...

I guess now is a good time as ever to thank the nannies who are swarming all over this post.
can you see me yawning?

Anonymous said...

Hey..if you want to know about cooking..consult a chef..want to know about a nannies job..consult a nanny! You are one of those people who can't stand to be wrong and would never admit it if you were!!!!

Anonymous said...

Yawn all you want high and mighty!!! You were not there. None of were and if you consider this abuse you just prove the point even more that someone took this situation way to far by posting it on a website as abuse! You watch Jerry Springer don't you?!!

Anonymous said...

11:50 what makes you such an expert? Do you work with children or have twins?

Anonymous said...

Where in the entry did it say that this was outright abuse? where did it say that only full on abuse postings were allowedd? read the original first entry. it says to take action if there is ABUSE

Anonymous said...

Even comparing sunshine in the eyes to some form of abuse is absolutley ABSURD !!!

Anonymous said...

12:06 do you trult beleive that this is abuse ?

Anonymous said...

NO ONE EVER REMOTELY MENTIONED ABUSE!

Anonymous said...

Abuse is abuse.."what the hell do you mean full-on abuse?" "Outright abuse?" So now stealing is not stealing if it is only a penny? Is that what you are saying? Either it is abuse or it is not abuse!And to try and make your point you had to make something up like"where does it say it has to be FULL ON ABUSE" you are waaaaayy out there aren't you!Sunshine in the eyes is NOT ABUSE!

Anonymous said...

This blog is to report things that unsettle you. Things that would bother you if you were the parent of the child you see. Things that you might imagine the parent might like. Things that you might imagine the parents should know. I saw your nanny is the name of the blog. So one can send in a good sighting, a bad sighting or just "I saw your nanny today walking down the street eating a donut". Get over yourselves!

Anonymous said...

somebody on this blog is way too high strung to take care of children! The poster didn't say abuse. Step away from the coffee pot.

Anonymous said...

My point exactly..there was no abuse! This site is to report abusive nannies or fabulous nannies!! Take a look at the sidebar..do you see an area that says "if you just feel like bithing about something you saw"? No !!! Find a general blog and gossip there!!

Anonymous said...

Welll, it isn't good for anyone to stare into the sun and it's very uncomfortable having no way to shade one's eyes from bright sunshine. That's what blankets and hats and sunglasses and valances on strollers can do if utizilized -- protect children's eyes from the sun. I am not a nanny but have pushed my grandchildren in their strollers and had to do a wee bit of engineering a few times due to this problem.

Anonymous said...

I think it is a shame that all of you PC people make reports that affect other peoples lives.

Liz said...

The blog is called I SAW YOUR NANNY. Also, they have published Q&A previously and also commentray and perspective from nannies, fathers and mothers. Go to the index page and click on perspective and opinion. And quit your bitching. Opinion is the operative word. How is this hurting you? Why are you sooooo completley angry about this post?
I don't think it is anything to worry about. I totally get that sun happens. And so I move on to the next post.

Anonymous said...

You all seem more interested in getting the nanny in trouble as oppossed to reporting situations that truly put children in danger!

Anonymous said...

Good for you..when I catch up you can yell at me there too!!!

Anonymous said...

You are hyper defensive. As a mother of triplets myself, if I saw this and recognized my nanny in this description, I would probably laugh and show her.
You are the one who is being extreme!

Anonymous said...

Apparently the sun doesn't shine much in Connecticut where the OP lives. I find it interesting that sunlight is such a volatile issue in this forum. I live in Southern California in a city that has all day sun more than 350 days a year. There is no way I could ever let my children go/play outside if I listened to many of you. I have a small fortune invested in sunglasses my children can't keep on no matter what threats I employ, and hats they tear off as soon as they are out of my sight. I keep a small arsenal of sunblock at the ready knowing that short of bathing, they can't get that off and hope for the best. For those of you who find sunlight on children so offensive and abusive, perhaps Alaska this time of year is where you should be raising your children.

Anonymous said...

Who dragged Connecticut into this?

Anonymous said...

To the mom of triplets!! You need a thesaurasus!! You keep using that SAME word in all the blogs!!!

Anonymous said...

1:16...you are fabulous!!!!!!!!!!I could not have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!

susan said...

Yes, I have in fact pushed a double stroller out in public many times. I have 2 young children.

I can also tell you that my nanny has pushed a stroller out in public many times.

It is true that sometimes sunshine gets in people's eyes. DUH. The difference is that these babies were obviously in distress given the description of the original poster. How could she not notice? Or did she notice and not care enough to do anything?

Either way, it's not a great situation.

And if the kids are young enough, overdressing can lead to SIDS.

If you call yourself a professional, behave like one.

Anonymous said...

Susan.. you are full of yourself! Now this caretaker is promoting sids in this "dangerous sunshine in the eyes" blog!!?? And as for professionalism..maybe I should start using terms like"DUH"..it sounds so intelligent!

Just like a high-n-mighty PC'ER!!!!Very judgemental!!! I am sure you are a perfect parent.Atleast in your own eyes!!

Sunshine in the eyes while taking a walk *is NOT* abuse!!

Susan said...

Would you like a link to literature which supports my claim that OVERDRESSING caCAN LEAD TO SIDS and that sunshine in an infant's eyes can cause LONG TERM DAMAGE? Would that satisfy you? Or will you think that the doctors who publish these articles are full of themselves as well? No one claims to be perfect, but I do tend to my children when they're in distress. To not do so is abuse. Infants cannot help themselves. They cannot ask for sunglasses or shade, nor can they obtain these things by themselves. Their heads thrashing back and forth is the only clue they can give besides crying. Common sense, my dear. Common sense.

Susan said...

Since Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) was first reported, numerous causes have been proposed. SIDS is the most common cause of death of American children two weeks to one year old. Ninety percent of SIDS deaths occur by six months of age. The latest possible cause of SIDS is overdressing. If a baby is so tightly wrapped and covered that he can't lose heat there's a chance he will become overheated. It appears that when some babies become overheated they just stop breathing. Infants and children should have no more clothing blankets on than their parents would to be comfortable. Count the layers on the baby (pajamas, sleepers, blankets, etc.) and make sure it's that same as you have on.

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Sunburn

Don't let your baby sit in direct sunlight. A baby's skin is thinner and more sensitive to the sun's rays.

Protect baby even on overcast days. Reflected light from sand and water can burn baby even under an umbrella.

Further protect baby's skin by using sunscreen lotion.

Protect baby's eyes on bright days. Use a hat, covered stroller or carriage, or keep baby in a shaded area when outdoors.

Direct sunlight can permanently damage her eyes.

http://www.dhss.mo.gov/babyyourbaby/safety4-8.html

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Any questions now, sunshine?

Basic baby care courses are good.

Anonymous said...

Susan...how's the weather up there??

1969.. the misleading phrase SUDDEN INFANT DEATH SYNDROME is coined!
correctly referred to as "CRib DEath" because that is where it happens!!!!!!!! When referring to overdressing..they are speaking of pj's!you can and no doubt will twist & turn this to make it fit your argument..but I am telling you these children were NOT in danger of SIDS because the NANNY took them for a spin and got sunshine in their eyes!! You are way out of touch here ! How much SS do you collect for being a flippin nut case??????

Another good course..Sunshine and it's benefits for dummies!!!

susan said...

And you call yourself a child professoinal? Yikes! I'd love to know who you are.

I hate to tell you this, but SIDS can occur anywhere -- not just in a crib! Good God I can't believe you fancy yourself a professional childcare worker.

And sunshine does NOT cause SIDS -- overdressing does. Comprehend? I said direct sunlight can cause permanent damage to the eyes.

Next time the kid you watch goes to the pediatrician, accompany them and ask whether overdressing can cause SIDS (even out of a crib) and whether sunlight causes permanent damage.

Then come back here and apologize because I wasted so much time trying to educate you.

In the meantime, good luck! You need it!

Anonymous said...

Susan...what is it you do that makes you an expert..do tell!

Anonymous said...

New Poster. I found this sight last night after a rousing case of insomnia. I am shocked at how ridiculous it is.I came back this morning just to see if I really read correctly last night! The original post is complete nonesense! That anyone would post it or even worse take it to such extremes is mortifying to me. And that Susan and anonymous would go back and forth over it..well what a waste! While S may have factually correct information..she has blown the situation extremley out of control.And anonymous while most likely has the facts straight(cornered and trying to get out of sun)needs to let it go and accept defeat because Susan will continue to read from a book and present it here. You are both wasting all of our time!This site is NOT for your cat fight!If the nanny was sitting at the park with the carriage sitting in direct sunlight..there MIGHT be a case but the fact that the 3 were walking makes this a ridiculous siting!

Anonymous said...

Susan..I am curious as to your expertise?

Anonymous said...

Susan ..would you fire your nanny over this report?

Anonymous said...

To the two going back and fourth over this...how would handle it?

Anonymous said...

Cheeky Monkey, Cradle and All, BabySunProtection and Baby Catalogue all have sunglasses that you strap on your baby's head. I am married to a pediatrician and if there is a chance of sun when the children go out, they will be wearing sunglasses.

Anonymous said...

That sounds great but some children will and do find a way to pull those sunglasses right off their little heads and toss them out side the carriage!I know this from 1st hand experience!

Anonymous said...

Well I guess I'll stay inside next time to avoid critism from the likes of know it all posters! My husband says I should get used to the soaps..like most nannies instead of taking heat for going outside on sunny days!

Anonymous said...

what a stupid comment. you are just like the bus driver who says we should be lucky that she is taking our children to school for us so we don't have to deal with the traffic and headache she has to. She also says we shouldn't complain about her dropping kids off at the wrong stops or blowing through stop signs. If you are paid to do a job, DO THE DAMN JOB RIGHT. And guess what? Taking a child outside is part of the job.

Anonymous said...

Then get off our fu@#!$g backs when a little sun gets in the babies eyes while taking them outside!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Would you all make up your minds..you attack us if the sunshines on the kids and if we stay inside to avaoid it!!! Bunch a crazies!!!

Anonymous said...

if you are taking my child outside, you damn well better make sure she is dressed appropriately. I don't want her to come home sopping wet because you forgot her raincoat or umbrella. Take the necessary provisions. Staying inside is not an option. Wake up- this isn't rocket science. It isn't a huge deal but certainly it can be avoided.

Anonymous said...

who are you? why are you defensive? perhaps you are quite possibly INSANE? Yes, I think you are quite possibly insane in the membrane.

Anonymous said...

Boy, I bet poor Jane Doe was totally unsuspecting that her attempt to do good by starting this website has attracted so many whack jobs with nothing better to do than lodge ridiculous insults and sarcasm at each other. Hey repeat offenders: your message, even if it's 100% correct, is lost -- completely LOST -- in your presentation.

susan said...

Hey, don't take my word for any of this! I'm just some chick on the net. ASK A PEDIATRICIAN! Of course you'll get the same info, but at least you'll feel better about the source.

ps: it's just common sense. Really.

susan said...

Oh, and to answer the question... I'm not sure whether I'd fire a nanny over this incident alone, but it would definitely raise red flags and I bet she wouldn't last long because:

1. overdressing and sunlight exposure fall under basic baby care. If she doesn't know these 2 common sense things, you can bet that there is a whole bunch more she doesn't know

2. If she ignores the babies in distress you can bet it's not the first time nor will it be the last

My nanny actually signs a contract, and these things are well covered in that contract. No way to say "I didn't know."

Anonymous said...

Okay susan!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The person who post this said the nanny was walking the babies in the sun,and thier heads whipping sis to side, maybe she was walking quickly to get the babies out the sun, it,s not like she was strolling along,maybe she was close to where she was going and came on that side of the street, did the person who post this walked and she where she was going or did she just look at the nanny walking by? We have to stop making judgments until you see the facts, and as a nanny of two kids somethimes there is noway i can avoid the sun, or do anthing much about it.TL

Anonymous said...

T.L While I know you & I are in the minority here..(Based on the above posts)I agree with you post!I was shocked at the people who made the remarks they made in this particular blog!Very unrealistic!

Anonymous said...

How about this one"if you take my child outside you better damn well make sure he is dresses appropriatley!"

(previous post)

Anonymous said...

In re: to T.L's post...that same argument has been made several timesand you are right,however..the perfect parents of the world group(Susan specifically) Have NEVER EVER Come across this situation as they are much better at caring for their children than the rest of us!! They are NEVER caught off gaurd!

Anonymous said...

Then why don't they watch their own damn kids!!!

Anonymous said...

Because then they would have no one to b***h at or blame things on or make themselves feel superior to!

Anonymous said...

I have a wonderful nanny. She loves my kids and takes wonderful care of them. She often takes them to the park and for walks. I would never dream of getting upset over something like this..it is ridiculous!

Anonymous said...

I think Susan should run for president then everthing would be pretty and all the babies would be safe!

Anonymous said...

Are there really parents outthere that have never been in a situation where the sun didnot shine in the babies eyes for a minute or two?

Anonymous said...

There is no excuse for what this caregiver allowed to happen happening. She should have been prepared!

rs said...

is it me or did one irate nanny come on the board between 120-127 am and trash Susan? Limit yourself to one succinct comment. Oh and by the by- KEEP MY BABY'S EYES OUT OF THE FRICKIN SUN

Anonymous said...

rs..are you in charge here or is JD?I happened to enjoy my blogging last night..it was nice to finally find someone else outthere with a little common sense and a lot less unrealistic veiws!!!

Jen said...

119 Ok, I was not going to post here, as it would interrupt me eating my popcorn, but come on!! Is it seriously a joke to you that a parent would not want their child dressed appropriatly for the weather? I think that is common sense. If you don't have that, don't take care of children. If my nanny did not put a winter jacket on my child, she would not have a job. Period.

And Susan, you rock. I agree that some of these posters here don't have common sense, or the education. I mean, hello! I don't like sun in my eyes. Would I let my son be exposed? Besides that, the percentage of children today that will have to deal with sun related cancers is very high. And yes, they can get melenoma in their eyes, so no sunglasses is a nono.
So all you Susan bashers, lay off! If anyone here does not agree that it is the caregivers job to help an infant who cannot even raise their hand to their eyes, go talk to a pedi. They will really share some important common senses with you. Good Day!

Anonymous said...

Susan, did you ever hook up with that San Fransisco father? You are LES DWF, right? Have you spoke? Chatted by im? Please update us!

Anonymous said...

Jen,no one here is saying that it is okay to expose a childs eyes to the sun longterm!! The caregiver described in the post was MOVING though! She was NOT sitting still and you have NO PROOF that she was not MOVING the children to a shaded area!! Common sense says "get the whole story" before accusing someone of something which you know nothing about!

Anonymous said...

Susan is LES DWF?????????????????????????????????? Explains alot!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

WoW..lunch time blogs get better & better!! I had no idea but now it adds up. Susan..you have lost all respect from me! Your blogs and your gross use of this site are simply pathetic!

Anonymous said...

Any verdict yet?? Is susan LES DWF????

Anonymous said...

To whomever put it together thank you!! Not sure how you figured it out but wow!! Now we know why Susan's husband left..freakin know it all!!!!!I'd have left too!!!!!!!

DWF LES (jm) said...

No. Or yes. Susan could be a DWF on the LES. But that was originally me. With the husband that pursued delights on CL. Having said that, effective January, I will be DWF on UES as I signed a lease on a new place today.

Anonymous said...

to the poster who decried that this blog is embarrassing to Jane Doe due to the ridiculous comments and bickering among the posters-

The purpose of this blog is to protect children from potential abuse or questionable childcare practices. Whether people agree or disagree about the sightings does not detract from their usefulness as a method of keeping track of errant nannies. Whyever would Jane Doe be embarrassed by the ensuing dialogue that erupts about a particular sighting? Is it not possible that any attention brought to bear on this important issue is a good thing? BTW, your post was probably the least valuable one in this set.

Jen said...

Um, 1121, 248, 250, 907, and 911-acting twelve seems like so much fun to you all!! Wow. Here I thought this site seemed serious enough to check out, and you all just blew that theory out of the water!! Feels like I'm in grade school again! "You have lost all respect from me..." Homophobic much? And she isn't even LES DWF. I think apologies are owed to both.

And 247, sorry, but YOU have no proof that the nanny was MOVING thru to find shade. Or even if she was moving at more than a snail pace. Reread the post. Oh, and please, "GET THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT." Oh, unless you were there and can vouch? And by the way, I never said anything against the OP. I was just trying to tell people to back off Susan. Just because some of us moms/nannies take time to protect our children from cancer is not a reason for everyone to jump on a bandwagon and get all supper sensitive. It was not a jab at nannies. ALL caregivers are guilty of UNINTENTIONAL neglect at some point or another.
Should this sighting have been posted? Probalbly not. Would someone leave a baby facing the sun unprotected on purpose? No, not likely. Did the poster think that that should be up to mom? Yes, and I agree. My son is very fair skinned, and I refuse to let him be overexposed. Sunglasses or hat on. And in THIS case, most likley the caregiver was just in a hurry. Sheesh. Making a mountain outofa molehill...

Anonymous said...

Jen..you babble an AWFUL lot!!To loosley quote a fun line from a movie"some people with no brains do an awful lot of talking"

Anonymous said...

I think Susan & Jen are Lovers!! Leave them alone..they don't know anybetter!! Sheesh!!!

Jen said...

222, back at you, babe! Oh, sorry. Don't know which posts are yours, so really can't point the finger back at YOU. I'm pretty sure you've never rambled on about anything yourself. Well, maybe ABOUT yourself...

Jen said...

And 224, SHEESH, total homophobic much? Didn't someone else chime in that THEY are LES DWF? And just because I stand up when people show off their bad behavior does not make me a lesbian. I myself don't judge someone based on sexual orientation. I don't "loose respect" for others on such sillynilly bull. SHEESH, think you all would have grown up a bit by now. Oh, you ARE 12, aren't you? Because you sure aren't PC in your thinking. Just remember, 224, if you are a mother, APPLES DON'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE! Be carefull what you teach you children. Or whoever you watch. If you are a nanny, the parents might not like you narrow point of view influencing their children. Unless they're ...
J.U.S.T. L.I.K.E. Y.O.U!!! gasp!

Anonymous said...

This Jen has quickly become my least favorite poster.

Anonymous said...

She has become mine too!! She is a real pill! And she is all over every blog with this "stop acting 12" crap! She is obviously very young,very immature and really does not know where she stands ..if you follow her posts..she degrades you and swears at you calling you names then within a minute or two of that same post comes back to apologize blaming the day or week that she had for the outbusrst!! She has a 2 yr old...sad!!!Poor kid..he must see this all day long.

Anonymous said...

Jen...I am the person you accussed of NOT BEING PC in my thinking!! Thank you...you are so right!! I am indeed NOT one of the many PC cattle roaming this earth. I think for myself,unlike you,and don't believe everything I hear! I do not use books to raise my children..I do not care what anyone thinks of my discipline methods and I really don't care weather you are a freakin lesbian or not..regardless.. I think you are way off balance and might want to seek some therapy or Lithium..you are ALLL over the place here and your poor son no doubt is having to deal with the same crap that we are .I am sure you are one of those moms who over reacts..screams..looses patience and then 1 minute later is crying and apologizing..hugging your child.This is how you come across to some of us who have tracked you and your blogs Jen. way off kilter....scary!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I think Jen is a plant sent by someone to debase all threads and call in to question the very real efforts of the blog- MN

Anonymous said...

Never thought about that. You are probably right about Jen. There is noway someone would go back and forth the way she does!

Sorta sorry Jen..hahaha said...

I just have to respond to this ..hahhaha...seriously..

Mn, no. I'm not a plant. But I do question why a lot of people who post here are namecalling. I did in my first post here. Everyone else was namecalling. And don't you think they were also debasing this site? I came here on the suggestion of a friend. No matter how much you think you can trust your hired caregiver, they did not birth your child. I hope never to see my nanny here. How sad to me to see ADULTS namecall. Well, in the heat of the moment, as they say...I hope some people come here with serious intents.

And 1031, yes. I do apologize when I am wrong. Most of the time. I'm not that young. 31. And my last month HAS been bad. Not to excuse my bad behavior, but we just lost my father-in-law. Reading blogs is an outlet when I can't sleep at night. When my family is all tucked in, the laundry done, and dishes put away, I have too much on my mind to sleep. Sometimes I do overreact. THAT is why I come back and appologize. Not that I've seen others say sorry here much... And, since I'm rambeling anyway.. Lately, yes, my son sees my moods swing. From happy to sad. He's 2.5. He doesn't understand PaPa is gone. It hurts to have him ask for his PaPa. The last few weeks of his life had been hard on the family. And as far as my son goes, no, he doesn't see me namecall. He is just 2. I have a lot of patience for children, and do control my behavior in front of him....(and I'm not excusing myself here, just explaing myself)

Which leads me to you, 1040. As I stated, no, I don't react the way you envision. Well, except the time he ran in a parking lot. I yelled. But had to put a LITTLE fear into him. Time outs are easy. He sits quietly..we wait 2 min...we talk about why he had to sit out...we hug..we kiss...we run off for more fun activities...
Pretty normal, huh? I DO watch Suppernanny. Jojo is brilliant. My own nanny works two afternoons for me, and follows the same form of discipline. (and yes, from past posts, I have had to spank a few times...don't sue me!! I'm not perfect) But I choose how to raise my son. I'm really not so PC myself. Well, certain derogatory words don't come out of MY mouth. Guess I'd never call someone I didn't know a LES. Good for you that you choose to raise your child the way you see fit. No one should every just follow the crowd on parenting. If you do follow my posts,(although some of mine are ANONYMOUS too) you'll know that I do advocate finding the method of parenting that works for your child. My son is sensetive to yelling. Thus, we don't bicker in my house. Even the tv, if on, will be shut off if there is arguing that scares him.

So if I do come across as off kilter, who cares? Since reading Jane Doe's post, I know I will tone down my crusive words, and try to play nice. Why don't you all try that? Why gang up on someone who doesn't share you viewpoint? And I don't mean don't gang up on me. It's been a bit entertaining. I just get defensive for others out there. I am a mommy, afterall. I spend most playdates guiding little ones into good behavior....just carring that part of myself over here.

Anonymous said...

jen..therapy is the place for this not a public blog. Please seek some for yourself & child..it really will help you.Sounds as though you need more than this blog can provide you.

jen said...

1213-thanks. Doing that. We are taking time to counsel with our pastor at church. And no more mean posts. Now if I can just ignore when others do....

Merry Christmas!