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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 417 Newer› Newest»Autumn and spring are definitely the best. The weather is so mild and pleasant! I also love holidays so I get excited around this time of year because Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas are drawing closer.
I think that might be one of the reasons I love working with kids - they still get excited about holidays and I love that. It seems like most of the "grown ups" I come into contact with are tired of holidays by now.
That is one of the the good things of working with kids.
I actually miss having a classroom this time of year.
I love decorating for the seasons.
Seriously- to be clear- this was more than that. I do understand not being able to relate to feelings of violation. I believe denial is a powerful thing in these situations. By saying you think "I" have a problem is participating in the same cycle that started this sad situation. It also disproves any kind of care you have for myself or any others who experience these situations in their work with children.
Count me in as someone that loves fall. Though I have to say winter and summer are my fav seasons.
Hello!
I still go on hay rides and pick out pumpkins , and haunted houses every year and I'm in my 20a.
Melissa- to say "I" have a problem is participating in the same BS that has gone on here. It also disproves any care or concern you would have for someone who has experienced this or a similar situation. I do understand not being able to relate to feelings of violation. Hopefully nothing similar will have you empathize. Info not appreciate you AGAIN placing blame on me. Ugly ugly ugly.
Ocean, I love summer but I can't stand winter! I just can't appreciate the cold the way others do. I guess because I live in North Carolina and it only snows one day out of the year (and some years not at all), so I don't get the walks through the falling snow and all of that. Just cold weather, chapped lips and way too much static electricity.
lyn - have a nice day! You are a very valued poster and i look forward to seeing you on other threads ;)
EBN - you are doing a good job of navigating the positive with the negative, i'm glad you did not give up
Hey RBTC, how are you doing today? :)
Aria,
I live up north and if I didn't learn to love the winter & cold I'd be bummed a good portion of the year.
As soon as December hits I break out my hot chocolate and break out my *NSYNC Christmas CD and play that thing like you wouldn't believe until March.
Winter also means skiing and snowboarding, and well snowman building becasue I'm such a kid at heart.
Thinking about it all the cold is probably why I love the heat of summer.
lyn - have a nice day - looking forward to your comments on other threads ;)
EBN - you are doing an amazing job of navigating the positive and the negative responses - keep it up
Ocean, rofl, an *NSYNC Christmas CD? Sounds awesome. :P I was born and raised in Orlando, Florida so I think the cold is just against my nature. But I guess up north you do have to embrace the cold or just be miserable!
doing very well aria - i love your posts - you are a very good writer and your points are very circumspect - i hope we see you on other threads!
Thanks RBTC! I've been reading for a while, but I usually don't comment... Since I started talking to you guys on this one, I think I'll start speaking up more in the future. There are good conversations to be had and a lot to learn from you all. :)
Oh yeah *nsync nerd from way back.
It's a small world my grandparents have a vacation home justoutside of Orlando. They hate the northern winters.
You should definitely hang around Aria! It's always great to have new voices!
OMG, I still have that N'sync Christmas CD! Haha!
Alethia- I've been in NC for a couple of years myself. Where abouts are you if you don't mind me asking?
Lyn, that was actually me who's in NC. :) Born in Orlando, moved here about seven years ago. I live in Charlotte! What about you?
oops! Sorry about that! I'm in Winston Salem. This summer has been HORRENDOUS. I am SO thankful for the crisp breezes lately!
No problem, all these names that start and end with A can blend together. :P I know, it's been lovely this past week, hasn't it? Today was a bit humid over here, but certainly not as bad as it's been.
It was raining off and on all day here so that explains the humidity an hour away.
I'm just SO over summer. I'd love to live in a place where it was fall year round. Ah, I can dream right?
I have the same dream you do!
Not the only *nsync nerd on isyn. lol
yay!
Don't wanna be a fool for you, just another player in this game for two... You may hate me, but it ain't no lie...
Ah! Kindred spirits-- bosom friends, even :)
I always say that I want to find the place on earth where it's always autumn and stay there forever, haha.
Lyn, I love NC, but I haven't been lucky enough to live there yet. My brother did for a while, which is when I fell in love with it :) Right now I'm in the Midwest, trying to find a position in NYC (which I love even more than NC:)
My dear friend from college loves to bust out the *nsync Christmas album every year, too haha. I never got into them, myself, but I like to listen to it with her and some Starbucks! And then watch Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, of course!
I'm a born and riased Virginia beach girl but I moved to NC so my Hubs could finish his degree. We are currently looking at houses either in TX or Nebraska actually. Personally, I'm hoping for Nebraska, actual falls! Sigh, it sounds lovely to me, haha! Depending on his job offers we'll be moving sometime early spring. I loved NC but I'm ready for the next adventure! :)
I grew up in Nebraska!! It is a great place, with awesome falls! I'm more of a city girl, in general, so I prefer Lincoln and Omaha, but there are lots of really sweet, fun, small towns, too. You'll have to check out Platte River and Mahoney State Parks-- so much fun! The zoo in Omaha is so amazing. The one in Lincoln is cute and fun for kids, too. The Haymarket in Lincoln has a fantastic farmer's market in the summer, and lots of good shops and restaurants-- a store that sells hundreds of kinds of licorice, a pottery painting place, art gallery, etc :) And of course you'll have to go to a Husker football game--make sure you wear red!
(I mean, if you end up there...) lol
Lyn, you said Nebraska had "actual falls" and I thought you meant there was a town called Actual Falls, Nebraska. I was like, what a weird name for a place! lol.
Omaha is where we are looking actually! We love the idea of raising in a family in the fresh open air but still being close to a big city. Well, not being around anymore super southern accents too. ;) My family is from Boston and my Husbands is from Ohio so the accents sort of throw us. Not to mention the cost of living there is great! haha!
Aria- haha! I am SO terrible about typing clearly on my phone keyboard. I think my thumbs must be too fat or something, haha. I've switched to an actual laptop now (how archaic!).
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we interupt this weather report for a comment directed to EBN about her email to the parents
all seriousness aside - i have not had a chance yet to comment on it and of course my take will be different - anyone except EBN - feel FREE to ignore lol
my experience as an enployee and employer has taught me the following - the people who ignored or were too tactful did not teach me things that were essential, conversely - the people that were very forthright and said " this is wrong for this industry, stop it or your fired" - they were a big help even though at the time i hated them
so - think about the little boy - you are an adult and the minnions and the pack are telling you to just take it because it does not matter
but - what if the young man does it to another child?
what if it's not just "curiosity" and there really is something wrong, everyone ignores it, it gets worse and he reaches the age where he can be prosecuted and his life is ruined?
yes, your letter will probably be upsetting to them and characteristically you are blunt, not namby-pamby which further upsets people --
but - someday they may look back on you as his savior - someone who cared enough to be brave and say - something is wrong here and something should be done
you can rest easy - you stuck your neck out above the crowd to actually try to help the child, you have done all you can do and you can be satisfied with yourself for that reason no matter what the pack mentality says
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we now bring you back to the lovely weather report
the south part of the country is VERY HOT right now but fortunately nice rains have alleviated the chance of a drought - looking VERY forward to cold weather
i can't wait see what my peach tree does in the spring
RBTC, what state are you in, if you don't mind me asking?
Alethia- Quick question, and an odd one at that, is Nebraska a windy city because of how flat it is? A nice cool breeze is always a bonus in my mind. :)
texas
last year there was a very terrible summer with 3 digit temps - the scary part was the effect it had on houses like cracking water pipes, frying air conditioning wires, driving the temps up on cars
this year thanks to providence there has been regular rain which cools things down
we had a cold fromt last week -- 88 degrees !! lol
Jeez, that kind of heat is scary! Do you have mild winters, at least?
Haha, it has it's share of nice, cool breezes, but nothing extreme. It's not known for being windy or anything. Also, the eastern part of the state isn't flat like the west. With the river, there's lots of hills, bluffs, etc-- at least, compared to the plains--not compared to some parts of NC, lol. I would call Omaha very hilly--depending on what part of town. Definitely more than Lincoln. There's a good amount of snow and cold in the winter, and it's hot and humid in the summer--the climate varies quite a bit by season. Fun Fact: Gabrielle Union is from Omaha (and a big Husker fan). :)
you asked a really good question about the winters here - they are certainly mild compared to up north, last winter was mild, no freezes so all the fruit trees and agriculture did well
the year before one night got down to the teens which was weird for here
you would laugh to see what happens - when there is ONE snowflake they close all the schools
and when there is ice or snow try not to drive if you can because everybody drives as if there is no snow or ice
RBTC, here in Charlotte, NC it is the exact same way as far as school closings go. The entire city goes into a panic the second a flake touches the ground.
I love Gabrielle Union. Talk about beautiful! I really hope that's where we end up. It's perfect!
RBTC- your feedback is very valuable to me. It's true, I'm a direct communicator. I know my clients. They know me. We build very trusting and healthy partnerships. I would not have it any other way.
Your point about the future of a boy like this child (assuming he is a victim) is so very important. As I stated in my original post, part of the conversation I had with his parents included acknowledgment that he is especially vulnerable to persecution and that I have seen children accused by other parents.When this involves foster children, the state is involved in more ways than one. It's absolutely awful.
Many other factors compound these issues. This child needs very special attention- yesterday. He is receiving more intervention than most children have access to. He needs more.
I made my decisions/ chose my conversations with all of this in mind.
I'm going to skip a conversation about weather.
Hoollly shit, what kind of thread did I just walk into? Here are my thoughts to you all:
To East Bay,
-That email is cray and makes you look like a completely paranoid and high strung weirdo. I get that remembering abuse can be triggered by certain things, but honestly there are people you can talk to about that. You don't seem mentally able to care for children at the moment, and I would consider a sabbatical of some kind
-I'm not sure where you live, but expect major career repercussions for that email. If those parents share what you wrote with every other parent they know, you are SCREWED. Because honestly you come across as a total nut bar.
To Weather caring folks,
- I'm in Knoxville and it's hot and I hate it! I'm used to cool northeastern falls, and I'm super depressed that it is still 80 degrees here.
To Aria,
Your name is beautiful and I would like to use it for one of my future children. Hope that's cool.
To Lyn,
I agree with your assessment of Gabrielle Union.
Ellie, your comment made me laugh because I was thinking about stealing Aria's name as well!
Ellie, only if I can use Ellie for mine! I've always thought that name was cute.
It's only September! Have patience. :P Have you lived in Knoxville long?
I feel so popular right now!
EBN - a public figure i admired was the late Princess Diana - she got ALOT of flack for helping people. I will never forget one of her quotes
" When you put your head above the parapet,you may have to dodge some shots from those below"
You made it clear that you sometimes or often do not agree with me - no prob- but that right when the pack was lying about you and dragging you to a dark realm- it meant something that at least one person was trying to listen and understand and support you.
You may not have done things the exact way everyone else would but you did the right thing all around and you have been very gracious to some of your detractors
best wishes - keep us posted!
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back to the weather - aria- about 6 years ago it actually snowed on CHRISTMAS EVE
a guy i know dresses as santa claus and i heard him telling some kids that right as he was driving the sleigh over texas the magic dust that fuels the sleigh backfired in the engine resulting in snowfall over the state!
Aww, that's really cute! :)
The state fair is coming our way here in NC in October! It's always a big month for me :) lots of fun and so many horror movies to see I love autumn!
Wednesday, where in NC do you live? :O
I had no idea there were so many of us NC Nannies! How awesome!
Oh, and October is the BEST month of the entire year! IMO
I'm not technically a nanny yet (more of a babysitter/ECE student) but I would hope to be one one day soon. :) So it's pretty awesome that there are so many around here!
Weird. It says there are new posts but all I see are the same old ones.
The WNC state fair just left, but for any Wnc nannies that's a great one to take your charges to! Another nc nanny :)
"everyone else" had nothing to offer about how they would handle it. I asked others directly what they would have done. Repeatedly - no answer.
RBTC- I have only what others believe to go on about who is who on this blog. My comment about your being "mean" atthe start of this conversation in the initial thread was absolutely in the context of being criticized and accused. Now you are off the hook- glad for you. Thank you again for doing your best to keep it real and to keep it sane. Luckily Inwas able to quickly see that you were not being treated fairly. And I spoke to that. Thank you.
Ellie is my daughter's name!
@EBN I believed you when you told us all about your high level of education. Then I read your professional email and realized that either you are lying, or the nation's education is in a sorrier state than I once believed.
NC Nannies, we should friend each other on facebook (if you're comfortable with that!) I don't know any other Nannies in my area and would LOVE to have a little nanny camaraderie! This is the link to my profile,facebook.com/alwayslyn friend me and send me a message with your username! I'd love to befriend any of you, not just the awesome NC Nannies!
You guys won't believe this, but my little sister's name is
Aria Ellie.
I wanted to name her after Ariel from the Little Mermaid, but out mother thought differently.
I agree October is the best month. I am a little biased as it is my birth month, and Halloween the best day.
Those of you working in North Carolina how would you rate as a place to find nanny employment?
I;m thinking of moving. I don't have any place in particular in mind. It's more of me wanting to break out of the rut I'm in and see a bit more of the country or possibly the world.
Strike out on my own.
I spent a couple years in Raleigh and now live in Winston Salem. Raleigh is amazing for work. It took no time at all to set up a great paying job and find Nanny support/play groups. I truly felt like I could leave a job and have another lined up in days if need be. Thankfully I never had to, haha. Winston is difficult. It took me FOREVER (about 8 months) to find a family that was willing to pay on the books and at the same rate the families in Raleigh paid.
I've never really had an issue finding employment. Now finding a good match... That's a whole different thing. I've found two extremes in my part of the state, parents who basically want you to be an in home k-2 teacher to infants, and very green families who want you to spend lots of time out in nature. There are always tons of postings on care.com for this area, and i have been amazed at how many people want part time nannies. I've actually picked up 2 part time families while going to nursing school, and I have been very pleased with how that's working out! Good luck!!
no offense meant EBN, i was just offering some balance with the thought in mind of some of the silly people who think we are the same person. Not only would it not make sense to initially criticise myself but at various times MANY of us were posting at the exact same time
in the coming days if MPP is still willing to put up w/all this and puts new threads - maybe we will be on ooposite sides next time - we'll see ;)
you took all this alot better than many people would - again best wishes
Thanks for the tips?
How is the housing for the cities mentioned?
Is it possible for a nanny to rent a place in the city on an average nanny salary?
Would it better to consider living out of the city and commuting or a live-in option?
RBTC- why take sides? Right? Why not dialogue/ agree/ disagree... Apparently taking sides is the true objective of most here. Lesson learned.
Bethany, I would also love to know the answers you asked. Since I'm still a student and will hopefully be graduating someday in the not-too-distant future... I know nothing about what the job market is like for nannies here in NC.
Raleigh is very affordable to live in. If you wanted to live outside of Raleigh you should check out Fuquay Varina, weird name, GREAT town and about a 15-20 minute drive to downtown Raleigh. But Living on a Nanny salary in Raleigh is very easy to do. I supported my Hubs and I while he was in school there on JUST my income and we never went without, we also lived in a great town home in a very safe part of town.
Thanks , Lyn.
That is ectremely helpful. I'll have to add it to my list of places to research.
Relocation is so daunting even in the early stages.
But seriously, stay FAR away from Winston Salem. Great city, ZERO Nanny market. Outside of DC and NYC I truly believe Raleigh has the best Nanny market in terms of pay, cost of living and great families to work for. A lot of green families but nothing too outrageous in my experience. Not to mention they all treated me WONDERFULLY. Actually, if any of you are seriously looking I know one of my past families is looking for someone. Live out.
Lol! It's good to know the places to avoid as well.
North Carolina is on my short list.
I don't intend to make an actually move until at the very earliest April of next year.
So much to consider.
Kind of off topic, I know, but something Lyn said got me thinking. How do you guys get work, besides Care.com? I've had reasonable success with Care.com so far but it just seems like there should be a better way to find families.
I've used care, Sittercity, and a butt ton of personal networking. Sittercity was my favorite online way to find them. But I found with networking, when people get to know you for you instead of weeding through 100 faceless applicants online you get better offers and a more willing attitude when it comes to negotiations.
point taken EBN, point taken, i was being facetious though, you know how that is ;)
RBTC- I do ;) And I also understand that your comment was well intended. Hey in advance- if you ever disagree with me in the future- I would appreciate you saying so respectfully (or at least make some concession to try to be respectful). I pledge to do the same. Is that something you think could agree to? You've done so in a big way throughout this exchange so I know you more than anyone who has participated are capable.
I love the smell of apple candles that I burn in the fall.
I want to apologize to East Bay Nanny. I said rude things. It's unfair to assume negative things. Your communication style is hard for me to understand. I think I took what you said the wrong way. The fact of having RBTC jumping in after each post to call everyone names did not help the situation. Im sorry.
EBN - I have to admit that i have used some very strong language with some of the people who have not acted right with you and your post - particularly since i was dragged into it without any initial involvement at all - i was out of town, go figure, anything i said to them was a lulliby compared to how they spoke with you
What i do is - encourage the Ops,give experience that i have had working with kids for 30 years or so - my view is not for every poster( especially as i come at it from an employer/independent contractor) - and my view is not directed to every poster, or liked by them - no prob
But - respect?
interesting idea
have you received respect on this blog?
Boy is that an interesting question
i am not sure if you know this or not but app a year and 1/2 ago i posted a nanny sighting with some kids and their nanny having fun dancing - my intention was to balance several really negative pictures of bad nannies that can make you sad
The "monsters" as you say were not as bad to me as to you but there are similarities
go look there is a link to it - they sexualized the children,did same to the pictures,did same to me,dragging my name thru vile acts, and intimidated the blog administrator into silencing part of the post - not all as in your case
you know - who knows what is going to come of this, but it makes no sense- i hope this negative element will not prevail because children need this blog
i just want to say something nice to the Ops, give an opinion that may be different from the perspective of a nanny,give some personal experiences with kids that the Op asks for - and go on my way - maybe it can happen
and something interesting you brought up ---
we are not able to have a reasonable guideline for posts
it's ok to have a nude pic of a girl on the kiddy pot - i just have to turn away-
and - you can have a whole thread about pulling down pants,golden showers, and - i will not go on- it's along the same line as the monsters thinking
but - boy !
You became the target - for what? we may never know, you have been treated with hypocrisy - maybe we will know why later
g'nite
sorry - i was not involved in the post until late eve night when it had reached app 60 posts! And i find out i am the "poster" (not)
and please do not forget if you can that i was brought into it against my will, EBN was accused and insulted falsely over and over again of being myself and my name was a focal point of - a group with an agenda and yes i responded to them - it should have had nothing to do with EBN. And please do not forget that anything i said to the "monsters" as EBN says ,is a gentle lulliby compared to their horrible words/images/views
so - thank you for your support of her - she needs it and deserves it
re-post
I would have sat down with the parents and said what you said in this email...but in person. The email does come off accusatory, especially the part about deciding not to have called CPS. In one sentence you say you understand the curiosity but in the next say you spent 5 minutes trying to figure out what happened. During my nanny career, I also taught swim lessons. I had several kids try to pull down my bathing suit top because they were fascinated by my boobs. Like you said, this curiosity can be normal and I never thought for once that they were victims of sexual abuse.
Even though you say that you are not accusing them, the overall tone of the email comes across that way.
And before I get attacked for being uneducated, I have 2 B.S. and a Masters.
RBTC- my view is that within this particular mega post- you were absolutely awesomely reasonable. Inhave seen you get flack constantly in the several weeks I have been on this blog. Now I know this is because you speak up. When it seems an entire group dislikes someone, it is indeed hard to see beyond bullshit. I'm very happy that the record is straight. And your story of dancing children really gives insight. But Inthink you and I are both still wondering why the hate and vitriole? I have my theories. I won't repeat them.
Sorry- Thank you for the apology. I would appreciate you using the moniker you used when you were in gang mode. I understand why you would not. Also, again, I don't remember RBTC name calling much here.
RBTC- another bow of gratitude. I won't forget what you did. In RL or on here, your actions were truly heroic from my humble perspective.
Respect is required as far as I'm concerned. In all human interaction. We're human, we are sometimes controlled by emotion. But we are grown ups taking care of children.
Aria, I'm not in NC but I use SitteryCity.
I have also used CL, but be very careful with CL lots of shady people.
Agencies are great, and you'll probably have success with them since you'll have an ECE degree.
Word of mouth helps too. I've found fulltime jobs through families of people I've babysat for or met a playgroups.
Happy fall,
Apple scented candles are the best!
I actually like to boil cinnamon and apples just for the scent it creates.
Another great thing about fall is the candy corn.
I may or not have formed a stockpile of andy corn after wok yesterday.
Anon- your feedback is useful to me. Thank you for posting again. I don't know that these parents are not abusers. It's really tough.
RBTC, I have come to the conclusion that you enjoy twisting the truth as it suits you. What you described it absolutely NOT what happened on your thread years ago...as has been pointed out to you many times, both then and very recently. You really ought to get yourself out of the "victim" mentality.
There are already over 280 replies. Bet you meant 300.
mannah - i completely bow to your superiority in truth,health,and niceness as a human being!
have a very nice day!
Oooh! Pumpkin candles! I just bought a glorious Spiced Pumpkin Yankee candle! Drool!
EBN - the group that gives me flack for speaking up is actually pretty small, but vocal and they have an obsessive need to dominate from their own perspective, many of them are very angry - they need an outlet to flail at someone, they got tired of me for a little bit and made it you! Hopefully they will get tired and start "ignoring" me like they keep promising
A friend of mine from childhood, i can say her name - debbie- was hurt by her stepfather
she came back in her 30's asking questions of friends and family - did you notice? did you see?
i told her many things my family and i saw to verify for her - yes we saw this happen, yes we saw that happen and we did not know what to do - BUT WE SAW
well, my friend says that those of us who SAW are her heroes for REMEMBERING even if we could not do anything
so - EBN - YOU are that child's hero - you saw the white elephant in the room and because you spoke up, he may get the amount of help and attention he needs to not have his life ruined
You have made a good point - speaking up gets you reamed around here - but it is what it is
DON'T LET THE TURKEYS GET YOU DOWN lol
RBTC, I wish I knew what your angle was. Is it that you're an attention-whore or just completely mind-numbingly bored? Why do you talk to other posters around here like a counselor? A coach? A drill instructor? You go to every single thread and thank new and old people for posting. Like they need your approval? Your appreciation? You're like the unwanted houseguest or one thats overstayed their welcome. You've become pesky and annoying. I'm not trying to be a jerk I'm just trying to figure you out. You act like you run the place. Why? Because the very first time I came on this blog I saw a post from you thanking others for their comments and to keep up the good work. Isn't that the job of the moderator? I would bet she's just being really nice and hasn't had the fortitude to stick you in your proper place. I've sat and watched you for a week and felt it was time someone said something to you. I would bet I'm not the only one who feels this way either.
Hi Stan. Are you a nanny by chance?
well, stan, - since you asked, i will tell you - and you probably will not like the answer but here goes--
i have been a member of this blog for app 3 years, about a year and 1/2 ago i submitted an original post - a good nanny sighting- a certain constituancy on this blog turned my post into a free for all about child kidnapping, perverts, and kiddie porn with me as the bad guy enabling those actions by submitting a post
i was not happy with that and it took some teasing with a cyber comb to ascertain that this group were nannies who were very unhappy with the premise of the blog - I SAW YOUR NANNY , it chapped their toosh that the blog encourages people to watch nannies so - they make a habit of FLAMING THE OPS
more than one poster has come on here and said they are afraid to post because of this ugly group
{ btw - in the past when i stood up to the porno/kidnap crowd, the blog administrator sent me an email thanking me, i do not know if she still feels that way, i know she was shocked at the behavior of the posters at that time}
and shock is too nice a word to apply to some of their recent behavior
now - fast forward to a recent thread called "red flags" ( i think ) not red flags 2)
a regular poster was EXTREMELY ugly to an Op for no reason, i stood up for the Op and all hell broke loose and it has not stopped
so - because of this propensity of that group on this blog to flame the Ops - jeez louise, i think you may have missed the deleted post fiasco-
i am going to say something nice to the Ops
so - stan -just ignore it if you do not like it
and - i look forward to seeing you opinion on future threads !
have a nice day !
RBTC...another fine example of bending the truth to suit your needs. You have no problem at all saying whatever it takes to make you the good guy and everyone who disagrees with you the bad guy.
And I feel the need to remind both you and EastBay that neither one of you have any idea if the boy in question had been abused at all. So please stop continuing on as if you know for a fact he is. Everything you know is hearsay and everything EastBay knows is pure conjecture. I'm beginning to think you'd make a pretty good lawyer.
PS: Do not come back with a condescending sarcastic remark like you did earlier. It is not appreciated.
i would never condescend to you mannah - but i absolutely understand your defensiveness - call me whatever you want - just don't call me late for dinner !
Honey, you better stop while you're ahead. I'm running out of fingers on which to count all your lies and exaggerations.
that's right mannah - get it all out on this blog so you will not take it out on your charges or your mbs or dbs
just think of me as one of those blow up balloons that you can punch - go ahead! i can take it!
as they used to say in the old batman series -- pow! bang!woosh! zap!
So it is not ok to question OPs but it is perfectly acceptable to insinuate that a regular poster is physically abusive to children and adults?
RBTC, that was an incredibly fucked up thing to say to mannah about her charges. If there was anybody on this blog left that may have liked you I think you just blew it with saying that.
Wow! What a horrible thing to say! You have the most disturbing thought process RBTC! Shane!
bella and mannah - i am very specifically quoting you mannah - you very specifically stated on another thread that you use THIS BLOG as a device to get your emotions out so you do not do it at work!
if you think i have to bend over and take it from you you are mistaken
as a matter of fact - if i am going to become your punching bag - i reserve the right to kid around about it
wham! ping ! zing ! pong!
great. another mannah-banana thread - bet we are going to hit 400
and no - myself and MANY other people have been mannah's punching bag - so here goes !
mannah minnions ! come and get me !
let's keep it on this thread so hopefully it will stay here and not leak onto other threads
you guys have fun! you live for this LOL!
I've come to the conclusion RBTC does drugs. There is no other explanation for her behavior.
And no, East Bay, I'm not a nanny. I employ one.
to bella and lyn - if i quote mannah to mannah,while defending myself FROM mannah, and what i say is horrible and f'd up?
who is horrible and f'd up?
me or mannah - or us both?
just askin'
My gosh. I don't know how you can survive with such an unpleasant disposition. Smile a little, share a popsicle with someone, take up yoga. Honey, no one controls what you say other than you. Perhaps if you want to avoid hateful remarks from others you should do a little proof reading and trim the fat rbtc.
you guys get it all out - whatever negativity
after all the porn etc accusations being accused of drugs is a compliment
get it all out you guys on this thread
and then maybe we can go back to rational discussions on other threads
but - yeah, i will speak up and defend myself even if you guys do not like it - it's ok!
bam ! boop! bop!
nanananana BATMAN!
RBTC- I get it. And have no doubt many here bully their "charges". No doubt at all. It's frightening.
Awful feeling to be accused. Very very hurtful. I get it. Do you get it Mannah?
Wow.
Hahaha Stan ;)
Mannah, I'm sorry this has turned on you. Such hypocrites.
I love candles! Back when I had my own apartment I had such pretty ones in the living room. I miss that. Cinnamon is my personal favorite :) I'll have to try that boiling cinnamon and apples on the stove trick!
Mmmm! One of my fave fall things to do is zest designs into oranges and decorate them by halfway sticking cloves inn the zested part. Then I put them ina decorative bowl on the table. The best fall scent fills your entire home!
Mannah?! Question? Is that what you call it??
I have no doubt some here bully their charges. It's frightening! Doesn't feel good right Mannah? Do you get it yet?
RBTC- I get it. Boiiiinnnggg!
EBN - I had a pretty low profile on here until i got sucked into a mannah- banana thread a couple of months ago - she was awful to an Op - hurt the Ops feelings - which she does sometimes when she is in a bad mood
When i tried to make the Op feel better a whole SLEW of people came on the thread saying how hurtful mannah can be , then mannah got upset and left for a while and i became the scapegoat for mannah issues
now mannah - when she is happy - is awesome at writing with lots of experience and incredibly good advice
but - she herself has admitted she has the mr hyde side
and no - i do not have to take it at all- i will defend myself from it
she has a following and i will be hearing from them
***sigh**
...bam..boom....bom...
Ugh - iPhone - sorry folks- Page 5 of comments! Ugghh.
Yes, been witness to this dynamic. It's ruining a really great blog with awesome potential. I remember when the incident you mention occurred- it was my introduction to this blog sadly. But I obviously had no idea how nasty it could get.
Keep shining your light RBTC. Best you can do.Bringing out wonder woman is clearly necessary sometimes.
Do you have a favorite super hero?
Real: Schindler and Wallenberg and the pilot who landed the plane in the water
Pretend: Superman and Spiderman
From the past: lenny Skutnick
From the present: yourself for caring about the young man and taking action in the face of intensely bizarre persecution
and: MPP - for putting up with all this to help children with this blog
how about you?
EastBay, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Am I the one bullying my charges? You are very cryptic.
Stan, I'm glad to see you here and I hope you post more often. It will be interesting to get a DB's point of view.
Aletheia, I hate candles. I might be the only woman on earth who does! But my family hasn't figured this out yet and for every birthday and Christmas I get stuck with a bunch of stinky candles that I usually end up regifting.
Hahaha, speaking of crappy gifts: My MIL (a lovely woman who I really do adore) got it in her head about 6 years a go that I am really into puzzles. I have no idea how as I can probably count the number I've done on one hand. Everyy gift giving occasion since I have received a puzzle, or a puzzle ornament, or a pair of puzzle piece earrings. My hubs finds it hystercial and I don't want to bring it up and embarrass her, or make him do it. So I've just accepted it, haha.
Stan, somehow I missed yor comments before. You should hang around and post more often! Aside from a couple of "bad seeds" here the reast of us are friendly and helpful. A DB's point of view is exactly what we are missing here!
i agree - stan will fit RIGHT IN !
My thoughts on the whole situation... Here's what I would've done:
NOTHING.
a little kid stuck his hand up your skirt! Oh my fucking god it's not a big deal! He's a child and as many other have said - children do things like that and it's normal! They're still learning about bodies.
You probably fucked this child up by acting like he was sexually assaulting you for doing that instead of just saying no again- and perhaps returning to work not in a skirt or dress if it's an issue! Making a big deal about nothing will affect the child and the parents for no good reason. The whole point of your job is to teach children right and wrong, not to accuse parents of molesting their child because he put his hand up your skirt. Dear. Lord.
My fucking goodness. I hope you never find another nanny job again. You are a sick fuck.
If you do plan to continue nannying I hope you take some child education courses so that you actually learn a thing or two about children.
i would like to compliment the last poster on the professional tone of the post and especially the posters widely varied effective vocabulary - we certainly need more posters of your caliber !
Mannah,
You are not the only female that does not like candles.
I cannot stand them, every single scent makes me want to vomit.
They do make pretty good paperweights.
Mannah and Bethany-- send your extras to me!! I'm picky about scents, though :)
Lyn, the oranges sound awesome-- pretty and aromatic! I can't help you on the puzzles-- I get so frustrated by them, and yet can't stop once I start! So I try not to start them at all :) I still have one from 2 Christmases ago unopened in the game cabinet, lol. However, I LOVE board games! I wish we could all get together for a round of scattergories, the game of things, and the office trivia game! That would be a fun night in my book :D
Aletheia,
I'm a terrible person and regift them at every opportunity.
I've wanted to have a board games night with my friends for ages now.
I wanted to have it with favorite childhood games.
Total- You bring up one good point about the way to relate to a child when this kind of thing occurs (though AGAIN this was not your typical curious grab).. I've seen teachers/ caregivers slap, yell shame, scream No, many times. This is damaging to children and would never be ok.
Oh! Candyland and Parcheesi and Battleship and Hands Down and Gnomes! What a fantastic idea, Bethany! I may have to borrow it!
I attempted to defend you from bullying only to watch you turn around and bully someone else. Wow.
"I'll bet you got pushed around, somebody made you cold, but the cycle ends right now cause you can't lead me down that road"
Way to go Mannah, you broke the cycle.
Rbtc and eastbay, those of us who stood up for you are just looking on in amazement, you ladies are doing just what you want others NOT to do to you. You ladies can defend yourself without making low blows and being mean.
future nurse - i appreciate your comment
the double standard is hard to take - the above posters can say absolutely godawful things - accuse people of extremely bad things --
but if we talk back or even get frustrated after an EXTENDED period of very inappropriate and wrong lanbasting - then we are the bad guys
you may try to impose a double standard of that kind but we are not obligated to agree with it or accept it
but again, i appreciate your comment
hopefully all the haters will go off and make candles/cookies/origame/flower arragements and such - and this will become the "martha stewart" thread and EBN and i can fade slowly and happily into the background !!
"hopefully all the haters will go off and make candles/cookies/origame/flower arragements and such - and this will become the "martha stewart" thread"
At this point I'll join them. I've definitely received more support and help in the last year from them, and while I don't agree with everything they say all the time, I have yet to see any of those ladies say nasty hateful things, or make low blows. I'm all for you defending yourself. I'm not for you turning around and bullying others.
Ladies I agree, fall is the best season, and Bethany you will LOVE fall in NC, esp WNC. The leaves changing is beautiful and everyone decorates for fall here. My house currently smells like Bath and Body's "Warm Apple Cider", and prior to starting to study for an A&P test I made a GORGEOUS fall ribbon wreath from pinterest.
Feel free to borrow the idea Alethia.
I've done it in the past and it's a blast especially when adult treats are served.
The dog in your avatar is adorable!
Australian shepherd?
Future nurse is one of "them"? What a disappointment :(. Why take sides future nurse? And how can you not notice the toxicity amongst them? Oh! I think I know!
RBTC- Martha Stewart- hilarious!
WNC is beautiful in the fall! The start of the mountains and all the pretty colors! I'm tempted to break out my pumpkins already!
"One of them" = any and everyone who does not 100% support any and everything 2 members of the blog rant about.
Just in case anyone wanted a definition. ;)
Good golly Miss Molly,
"one of them" as in reference to the quote I referenced in my post. I'll post it again for clarification :)
"hopefully all the haters will go off and make candles/cookies/origame/flower arragements and such - and this will become the "martha stewart" thread"
I'm going off to be one of the ladies you are saying need to all go off and "make candles/cookies/origame/flower arrangements and such".
I'm sorry I'm done entertaining this, you guys remind me of my 17 year old sister, NOTHING gets through and never gets dropped. Difference is, she is still a child.
I'm very irritated because I tried to stand up for both of you, even though I am not sure how I felt about the situation with Eastbay. Yet I tried to stand up for you two because I didn't want to see you bullied. Yet you have turned around and attacked members of this blog whom I hold in high esteem, simply because they (i guess i need to preface this, IN MY EXPERIENCES WITH THEM) do not turn around and be downright MEAN to others. I have not read any of these ladies comments to be mean. Do they disagree with you? Yes. Have you possibly offended some? Yes. But that is life. My goodness, Eastbay you TOTALLY offended me at some point with your gay comment. I mean I read it walking into class and just was completely rubbed the wrong way. Even your explanation, I was still offended. But did I turn around and turn it into a personal attack on you? NO. Did I even make a big deal about it? No, because sometimes you just let things go. So I'm sorry at this point, I no longer feel like its worth trying to stop others from bullying YOU LADIES, because you are turning around and bullying others. If you want to be mean, then be willing to have people be mean to you. Otherwise treat people with respect. I get that you ladies have had a tough 72 hours with this blog, but unfortunately you are quickly alienating even more people.
To the rest of the nannies/MB/DBs here, sorry for going off, I am just fed up with the nonsense.
One of them does not equal those who disagree. "One of them" equals someone who would believe that the vitriole does not exist and thus does not work to change it and instead feeds the "enemy" bullshit that is destroying this blog.
Hi Lyn !
Your fave epithet for me is "police officer"
rbtc: BLOWS WHISTLE! ok lyn! hands above your head !
lyn :oh bother! you are such a terrible ranter rbtc but i will humor you **puts hands above head***
rbtc: you are under a wrist! you are under a wrist!
all seriousness aside, i hereby nominate this thread to be "lyn's happy house of arts and crafts " and NO LONGER the " Bash the heck out of rbtc and ebn"
I have faith this can be accomplished
RBTC, thank you for your comments. I look forward to seeing you on other threads. ;)
Next on Lyn Craft Corner, sewing! I seriously just made the CUTEST Christmas apron a few weeks ago! Ready for Holiday baking!
Nurse- My "gay" comment last week was a statement about being in the closet and "reformed" and how that belief system is akin to believing one is not strange, as we all are strange. It was indeed a political statement as well as a statement about how important it is for some here to be perfect and completely innocent of all mistakes. You don't like my sense of humor- I get that. I live in Cali, remember? (thank God)
RBTC- you live in Texas right? So there is a very slim chance that you would agree with me right? What do you suppose an appropriate way to disagree might be (enjoying your humor strategy very much btw). If per chance you do agree, please forgive my assumption. I've never been to Texas but a number of my friends have told me some "stories"...
Eastbay.. I'm glad that you are liberal since you live in Cali.
I'm liberal because I'm gay.
Thanks. Sometimes you don't know who you are talking to, hence why ADULTS try to treat others with respect for that fact. You never know who is on the other side of the computer.
Ebn - it will now officially do no good to explain anything to anyone
the mannah-philes have kicked in, and once you confront mannah or associated with someone who does your goose is cooked on this blog
a really cool idea - i am not sure if they are willing - would be if nurse,lyn,the A's,stan,ocean blue etc would move beyond what ever they are getting out of continuing to jab at us
and resume with the arts and crafts posts - then the cursing nuts might not be encouraged, will go away and then this thread can become a positive one
it would be a cool hope
I think many of us have moved or are trying to move beyond the EBN/RBTC thing. I find nothing to gain from continuing to discuss that.
Those of you who have been talking about fall scents... every fall, we buy a cinnamon broom and place it in the corner. It fills the whole house with the scent of cinnamon and it's so nice. I love candles, too, but that's the smell that really permeates my house this time of year!
EBN - i am just noticing your question, i missed the "gay" post so i am uninformed about that
i am not sure what you are asking me but - there is no question that we have a similar sense of humor - irony mixed with satire
satire is notorious for cunfusing people who do not understand it and that is a major reason we have been slammed
the beginning of your deleted post had irony and satire , it was a way of dealing with the stress,and at least one poster above made your post about that instead of the issue
there is another very interesting poster named village who has made the point that making jokes on this site is very risky
but - people with a "gallows" humor so to speak cannot be stopped easily, it is usually a family trait - everyone in my family without exception has it, grandparents,parents,spouse, me and the kids - it's part of the air we breathe
and yes when people don't get it they get confused and mad sometimes - you have experienced that
about disagreeing - what i have done many times on the blog is cite facts or generally accepted knowledge and if i disagree with someone i will just say we agree to disagree
but - many many posters on this blog equate "disagreeing" with actually character assassination - so if you stand up to them or respond they say you will not accept disagreeing
if you tell them you do not appreciate something vile they have said they accuse YOU of namecalling
now - ebn asked me a question and i answered it to the best i can - it was not directed in any way to the garden club lol
if EBN needs me to clarify go ahead but i would like to request no one else de does - unless you must - everyone on the blog is valuable
Nurse- yes, 3rd generation- in my blood. I apologize for assuming your offense was because of your politics- I assumed. Did I offend you because you don't feel the words strange and gay should be in the same sentence? If you don't want to respond, that's ok of course. If you do want to respond, answering with spit venom mud toenail fungus would not be ok. I honestly do not remember that you've ever done so - btw.
Aria- awesome to hear!!!
RBTC- all what you say resonates with me. More perspective- thanks!
EBN - let's try to let the martha stewart group take over - maybe we can appeal to anyone else jumping on here to go with the arts and crafts and not the deleted post anymore
maybe anyone else who comes on here to attack you and me - we can refer them over to a calming herbal fragrance or tea by lyn and aria et al, works for me ;)
What did I do to offend you RBTC?
Ask that other postings not be ruined with tit for tat?
Yes I sure did, and MPP agreed with me.
Did EBN's original post offend me?
Sure did. My stance on that hasn't changed.
Am I a Mannah fan? I'm a fan of no one on this blog. But she and a few others give damn good advice at times and I have no problem saying so.
I also have no problem giving my opinion to anyone.
I believe I even told you I wish I had said something in the original post because I don't think it's fair to accuse people of being pedophiles.
Yet, I wake up this morning to find you challenging me in another thread.
You are exhausting.
I had sympathy for you at first, but not anymore.
You clearly want nothing more than to ruin this blog.
I will do my part to stop you and ignore you from here on out.
I would suggest others do the same.
I'm going to enjoy my candy corn.
ocean blue i would like to offer you a pot of chamomile tea from lyn's craft corner. Also a lavender plant and a cinnamon broom.
have a very good evening and i look forward to seeing your posts on other threads ;)
*pours RBTC a cup of chamomile tea* :)
I hope you ladies are having a wonderful evening!
You know what I could really go for instead of tea, though? Hot chocolate.
slurp! that was delicious ! very calming - have some ready for anyone who needs to be calmed down
**serves aria some hot chocolate made from the recipe on THE POLAR EXPRESS **
Gag me with a spoon.
I suppose one final comment to RBTC will not hurt anything, since this thread has already fed her need for attention to a point where anyone else would be pushing away the plate and unbuttoning their pants.
So, RBTC, let me just say this: I came to this post hoping against hope that I, as a relative "nobody" on this site, would be able to have a meaningful conversation and exchange of ideas with you, and also with EastBayNanny. However, by the end of one night's discussion, I was labeled a "bad seed" along with pretty much everyone else on ISYN. This happened simply because I asked fair, reasonable questions and did not back down when they were ignored and avoided. I cannot fathom how that makes me a "malevolent, vile" person, but somehow, in your eyes, it does. THAT is why I have chosen (and will continue after this final attempt to reason with you) to ignore you as much as humanly possible. The fact of the matter is that you refuse to talk about the real issues, instead thanking people for their posts as if each one was a gift of tribute to you, "defending" yourself against... something, I guess, and arguing around the subject without any real content to your words: all to keep the focus on you! You will deny it, no doubt, and come up with some rambling post about how terrible I am for saying anything against you. Go right ahead with that. And as Lyn said above, thank you so much for your contribution! :)
Now, where were we before we were so rudely interrupted? Ah, yes--
Future Nurse, I **love** Pinterest! We really do all need to connect on there, as Lyn suggested on another post-- I'll post my info there. Tomorrow I'm going to make caramel and chocolate-dipped apple slices with my charges, which I saw on Pinterest as a substitute for regular caramel apples. Yum!
Bethany, thanks! She's my little snaggletooth-- I got her from the pound, and she's missing a canine tooth, which looks so funny with her little underbite! She's only about 20lbs, short and stocky like a Corgi, but I really don't know what kind of mix she is. She's the sweetest, quietest little girl, with some spunk, too :) I really want to do the doggy DNA test, but it's kind of expensive...
Aria, a cinnamon broom would actually match the decor where I'm currently living really well-- man, I'm picking up so many great ideas in this thread! :) I love getting those crazy red-orange, green, bumpy, etc. pumpkins for the front porch in the fall. I also like to have a bunch of the tiny gourds and colorful maize out on the coffee table.
Future Nurse - where's the gay comment eastbay made? Was it deleted?
RBTC - why do you keep insisting this blog is ruined? Are you blind? I see almost 350 comments in this thread and MPP is probably still buried in mail. Looks to me like theres plenty going on here and I know I won't let a few people that disrupt this blog ruin it for me and I'm sure many others will agree because they're still here!
Aletheia - i deeply appreciate that you are willing to let that attack be the last one on you part- it would be great if we could move this thread over to the arts and crafts section
***rbtc offers Aletheia some chamomile tea and fruit cookies** (weather she accepts them or not ;)
"the mannah-philes have kicked in, and once you confront mannah or associated with someone who does your goose is cooked on this blog"
RBTC, this comment is so offensive! you're egging all this shit on! Are you trying to get under missmannahs skin? You are such a bitch.
curious - if you think i said the blog is " ruined" i do not think that - if i ever used that word it was a misspeak
i have said over and over again that the reason i like this blog is that is saves children - that has been proven
i do not care about all the nay sayers - all i care about is that Ops are encouraged and post nanny sightings - that's it
and the blog is very successful at that and that makes me glad
Curious it was not deleted, however I didn't say something to her to start more drama, so I'll just say its on an older post, you are welcome to find it :) She explained the comment above, and it won't take you long to find the original. I don't want to start another gang up against her lol or anyone else, not that i'm saying you would :) But that's why I'm not replying to the questions from her, not because I'm not proud of my sexuality.
And Aletheia yes pleaseeeee, I adore pinterest!!! I would love to be friends :)
I'm seriously getting so many ideas from this thread. I am wanting to really decorate this year instead of just breaking out the cinnamon broom and popping the plastic pumpkin in the window... Aletheia, the little gourds and maize thing sounds very pretty. I'll have to try it! Also thinking about the orange thing that Lyn mentioned.
I haven't joined Pinterest yet! If there's going to be some kind of group I might have to join. :) I know there are some really cool crafts and recipes over there.
Aletheia- i had to drink the tea and try to digest what you said and i think part of it may have been meant for eastbaynanny - you WERE trying to ask her questions and she was not answering them to your satisfaction
i cannot do anything about that - try to realize there was alot of emotion going on,the incident did not happen to me so i cannot answer
about the terms i used - they were directed at several posters HIDING behind generic names saying extremely vile things about EBN and myself, the terms were not directed at you
if you fell bad - try to imagine how we felt
i know this may not satisfy you but best wishes - i am glad you are here on the blog
JEN - i want you to know that i am really really tired of the mannah-philes following my butt around this blog for the last 2 months and starting smack with me
are you offended? tell a friend and get out of my face - i have had enough
if you look at the thread above i have been trying to not address mannah directly but she won't stop- she is the aggressor in this situation not that that would matter to you of course
ok, we were trying to wind this stuff down but some of you still have needs so - ok
***sigh**
I am amazed by the lack of self respect that some of you have displayed on this thread. It's disgusting and disturbing that a bunch of grown ass women can brings themselves to the level that some of you have. (smdh) I think it's time for me to find a new blog to follow during my "down time".... Which makes me incredibly sad because Lyn, Mannah, Tales, Nycmom, Juris and a few others have really enlightened and entertained me for the past few years.
i hope you never saw the deleted post
Nashville Nanny, I hope you don't leave. We've had an unpleasant few days but from what I've experienced, this blog has some really amazing contributors most of the time.
aria said a mouthful- she puts things in a wise way often
not only the valuable contributors but also - this blog saves children
it can survive the last few days and it will i believe
For those interested I posted links to my pinterest account on the themes thread! Hope to see you guys there!
You know what? I shouldn't have posted my last comment (aside from the pinterest/puppy/pumpkin part:). Now, I don't think what I said was factually wrong, I just think I should have restrained myself. I knew it wouldn't go anywhere. And it didn't add anything positive. Getting the last word, or even just making a point one believes and wants to express, can be a powerful force. I said my piece further above, and it hasn't changed. So, even though others were still discussing it, I should not have gone back into the fray.
I just felt I should say that.
And Nashville, Aria is right, I hope you'll stay-- and I hope I didn't contribute to making you feel that you couldn't.
Anyway, Lyn, I can't wait to look at your Pinterest boards!
this is now - "lyn's corner" she has many things to sell, i love the idea - i will buy !
Alethia, you are such a big person! Seriously, good for you!!
Also, I can't wait to see you on Pinterest!
Aletheia - you have said a mouthfull - you needed to get a jab into myself or EBN - you are not even sure why you felt that way - so stop now, stop now
and all else - just stop if you can - we need you to now - as Aletheia says - stop ;0)
we will see if it works :0)
My cell phone stopped loading comments @ 100 or so comments.
So I can't see what's going on, but I can still participate.
is RBTC still vomiting all over the thread? East Bay Nanny still being vague & attention whoring? If yes, nothing has changed.
Everyone has given up on trying to talk sense into them. We all felt like Helen Keller trying to work a miracle as RBTC tells her "they called me a pedo" story for the millionth time.
*passes everyone who is not a "bad seed" (herself) a beer and proceeds to tell us stupid pointless crap about being a waitress for 12 years*
i would like to refer the 2 above charming posters over to lyn's craft corner where she and some of the other members will keep them busy making a candle, drinking some calming herbal tea, and possibly some anger-reducing incense,while having a calm yet interesting conversation about the weather
all seriousness aside,let's try to put this one to bed
ps- this is the thread --
i am sure you probably meant to say you felt like Annie Sullivan - she was Hellen Keller's brilliant teacher. hellen keller was the one who was blind
I just bought that book to read at one of my story times for kids
The actress Patty Duke was brilliant in both roles at different ages ;)
RBTC's beer was one of the bet I've tasted! And as many of "you" know- I've had quite a few!!
Thanks again, RBTC!
(psst! they don't like irony)
i like "thread" bringing up Hellen Keller - it is an awesome story to tell children
Helen lived a long time ago and was very young when a fever took away her sight and hearing. She was VERY vibrant and super intelligent but without being able to see and speak and hear she would get very frustrated understandably
Her family got connected with a great teacher - Annie Sullivan - who would teach Helen sign language - but here was the very hard part - helen was so smart she could repeat all the signs and memorize them - many many words.
But - she did not understand they were words that applied to an object or feeling, she was just mimicing Miss Sullivan
then --- one day while teaching Helen the word "water", Miss Sullivan pumped some water over Helen's hands while signing the word
Helen remembered the word "water" as a young baby. The light came on! She then knew that Miss Sullivan was teaching her words. She ran around everywhere touching things and then knowing what it was called
Then she went up to Miss Sullivan, touched her face, and Miss S signed the word " Teacher"
And Helen became a world renowned teacher herself
an awesome story for children
Pssst- I do like the irony- can't take it out of me. And I'm not on here to be "liked".
a good goal to be on here is to help kids, that is the bottom line
The only reason I'm still here after what I've just experienced on this blog is because of my passion for quality early childhood education, and my work. The things I've seen happen to children and the sorry state of our education system (not to mention politics and larger frame affecting it all) has made me a fierce advocate.
That malevolent element tried to run us both off because we do not fit their agenda, but our wish to help kids will keep us here
i commend you on that
let me ask you this - would you ever post as an Op again?
RBTC-Maybe. I love to learn and would expect that others on this blog have resources and experiences I don't hav and to share these in a way that is professional (or at least not toxic).
I definitely misunderstood my audience with my former post. Interested in seeing if the change that is taking place will be permanent.
you are more circumspect than i am. The minnions actually achieved part of their goal in my case.
While i will not stop posting i would think long and hard before an original post again
There are some truly scary dudesses around here ( capable and willing to do damage) - as well as certainly many broad minded experienced people also who are a joy to learn from
"The only way out is through " ---Robert Frost
You had to make it through a gauntlet -- to define the audience here, and they drug me with you - thanks for that! ;)
i think we are finally out, time will tell
best wishes EBN - i hope to enjoy your posts on other threads - you have experience to share also
EBN - on the nanny connection thread, you asked MPP a question in response to her commentary about hijacking threads
What is hijacking a thread? you asked
i understand why you asked that because very valuable posters like lyn and ocean blue have gotten on your case for hijacking threads
yet they get hijacked all the time - the cps thread and many more
you are trying to find rules and logic when there really aren't any
you at least for the time being are a target and some of the posters will set up a completely different standard for themselves and for you
it's just the way it is
keep giving good advice to the Ops
you will receive no logical explanations regarding rules and treatment here
it's just the cost of doing business here
*sigh* It's like an initiation rite. But I'm really not interested in joining a gang. What a bummer.
Your anaolgy of an initiation rite is really interesting - at 1st i thought you meant that YOU were expected to go thru the gauntlet as an initiation for yourself - and i was going to disagree
then i realized what you may mean is that for the gang to be a gang and have camraderie - they need to - as a group find someone to bash and destroy
really interesting idea - comparing to the gangs of La and new york is very apt
Yes. But I feel more like one of those Brit Sailors back in the 1700s who were kidnapped through holes in the floor while drinking in the bar! They woke up, looked around and said "what the fuck?! Get me off of here!"
ha-ha, colorful analogy
did you notice how on the nanny connection thread MPP singled you and me out and said she cannot control the flaming and she hopes we stay strong and stay with the blog
she has to let some of these people do as they will - she understands and appreciates us - i think she is a cool lady
RBTC- I get it :))
This thread is a complete nuisance to society and a total waste of energy. The amazement I feel after reading many of these idiotic posts is an understatement. Your banter is beyond childish, but to be precise, I don't think there is a perfect adjective to describe the ignorance associated here. What's even more baffling is that many of you seem to be highly intellectual yet you've succumbed to this ridiculousness. Wow, just wow. Enough said.
I am personally just devastated to realize that MPP only REALLY likes RBTC and EBN. I thought MPP liked **ME**?!?!?!?!
I mean, I read what MPP said here:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=32916951&postID=3263487575031331724&isPopup=true
"MaryPoppin'Pills said...
I can only hope that everyone remains strong as many of you have... and stay with the Blog. The need for helping children should outweigh any of the petty arguing."
But I had NO IDEA until just now that RBTC and EBN were the only posters she was referring to - I feel so foolish for thinking MPP was thanking LOTS of posters for hanging in and waiting out rough patches.
Oh, the HUMANITY!
(Adore you MPP, and thanks for all the work you do here!)
{Today's snark was brought to you by the number 2 and the letters B, C, E, N, R, and T.}
tales - mpp of course was addressing all posters, but in JUST my opinion - it meant something that she singled us - EBN and RBTC out by name in her replies
( you silly girl! saying she only "likes" 2 posters - you are a HOOT!!!)
you have been pretty ugly to me on here - but that's ok, it's a need you have
i would like to say that the nanny advice you give to the nannies is very wonderful - i look forward to seeing more of it ;)
i just haad some more thoughts tales. EBN and i are trying to make sense of what was done to us - we are entitled to that
I don't know if you actually witnessed the deleted filthy thread or not
how can i say this - it got to the point where semi-anoymous and other less anonymous posters were graphically accusing us of fantasizing in wrong ways about kids
these fine people directly and indirectly referred to the Op in the past where you and mannah and others drug my name thru vile ideas like kiddie porn, kidnapping,enabling pervs to do god knows what just for posting a happy nanny sighting
now i know that you apologized for that (albeit sullenly LOL ) but - your words will never be gone - they will be there forever on the internet
and look what your words lead to - you yourself are a good human - but - there are some pretty disturbed people that took what you and mannah wrote and turned it into something really horrible
i would also like to say that i had a very low profile on here until the "red flag" thread where all the people jumped on mannah
you have made me a scape goat for that and the rest is history - they went on and on about that on the deleted thread also
so tales - you have really done a number on me here
hopefully you can work thru it and give great nanny advice --
i am not going anywhere and i hope you stick around too
best wishes
Oh! MPP "singled you two out by name"? I'm sorry, we (meaning EVERYONE) must have missed that hunk... *rolls eyes
I don't know why I keep responding to the things you post clearly just begging for attention.
It's okay, I know being a victim is just a need you have. Maybe it somehow makes you feel like a martyr for this blog when the two of you invent crazy stories and conspiracy theories and everyone else calls you out on your crap. Bottom line is: You are helping NO ONE. Not OP's not children, not MPP, not Nannies, NO ONE (!) when the best "advice" you can give on a subject is quickly over shadowed by your need to whine and beg for persecution. It's horrible. You are NOT child advocates (as you so often call yourself), you are not "heroes" (again, using the titles you have bestowed upon yourself), you are just sad little ladies with no lives who thrive on making a blog the very worst it can be. The readers deserve better, the contributors deserve better, the OP's deserve better, The MBs and DBs deserve better, the CHILDREN deserve better and MPP deserves better. And what do the two of you deserve? A trip to DR.Phil.
RBTC, have you considered paying for therapy instead of working out your issues here, where many people have commented on how extraordinarily tiresome it is for you to drag up twisted historical interpretations of past posts over and over and over and over?
I do understand that it's just a need you have, but I feel that you would be able to more quickly resolve your problems and concerns by seeking professional help instead of complaining loudly and long to an audience that has become bored with your routine.
To answer your query about the post that started all of the kerfluffle:
Yes, I read the OP, and was revolted by the writing style, which appeared to me to be begging for in depth discussion of how OP was "violated" by a 5-year-old child with special needs.
Then I read some posts that offered help to the OP, although many of the posters were also disturbed by the way the issue was presented.
Then the thread began to degenerate, and I stopped reading.
Now, feel free to take what I just said and twist it inside out to make me some sort of bag guy. I know it's just a need you have!
Or make me a BAD guy, or an evil genius, or whatever you need to make me to make yourself feel good!
None of my stories are invented. Not a single detail. I do realize many find it a stretch to believe what I have seen/ experienced. I don't believe that my contribution to this blog should be SILENCED because Lyn et al can't wrap their heads around what I've seen.
To further make my point. The following article, published in a Bay Area Paper today, is about a principal whom I personally met and who was the supervisor of one of my co-directors while employed in this district. Think I'm making this stuff up? You're wrong.
My "paranoia" is for good cause. I AM here because I care about my work and about children and families and it's outrageous that you would continue to personally slam myself or anyone else here. Take a bow and nominate yourself as Hero Lyn. You've just sparked a new fire. Congratulations! I suppose you're already tired of your FB group?
http://m.mercurynews.com/sjm/db_101029/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=p9qOe8gi
How is it possible someone can talk so much without saying anything?
Lyn and Tales - what you guys just did is called "projection" - foisting your own issues onto another target - for whatever reason, while you were writing it was literally like you were holding up a mirror
EBN and I have been treated beyond belief badly the last week, we are trying make some kind of sense out of it, and all the badness could not have taken place without both of you - you were right in the middle of the filth, either during it, or leading up to it
Dr Phil - it's interesting that that guy is your icon, i will not comment on that
you guys clearly have a need to bash EBN and I, and it's ok, i hope you will keep it to this thread and as smart Aria said - try not to turn all the threads into this one ! LOL
EBN - i agree, i was hoping beyond hope that lyn et al would take the bashing to the nanny face book page but i guess that was a dream, they just have to keep doing it here and even they do not understand why
i just hope they will keep it here and not on the new threads
Almost 400 posts & I still can't see what's going on. Is EBN still drinking? RBTC still speaking for her? EBN still being vague? RBTC still not a nanny/never hired a nanny but still talking about her job as a waitress and her business nobody here cares about? EBN still saying things to elicit a response but refusing to expand or clairify? $100 says so. But I will never know.
Dr. Phil is my icon. Also I'm a hero, and I like to SILENCE people. I'm not a cool lady, but I am in a gang. And in my past life I kidnapped people from bars and made them work on my boat. Poor people, they just wanted to drink some booze and wear a low-cut blouse! I really enjoy projection--how else would they get the movies onto the big screen? I think I have a need to legally change my name to "et al", even though I don't understand the reasons behind anything I do. By the way, not a single detail of this was invented. I can prove it: http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR33MQT#a=1
Man, I really wish someone would sing me a gentle lullaby and hand me a frothy beer and a piece of pumpkin pie!
It's Sunday. What are the chances East Bay Nanny is sober?
"I really enjoy projection--how else would they get the movies onto the big screen?" Aletheia, that was great. I laughed out loud.
No comments on anything else going on.
You used my link! lol, Aletheia, I love you.
Thanks, guys! I'll be here all night-- make sure to tip the waitress!
By the way...
Does anyone else hear that? There's this noise that won't go away. It's kind of like a high-pitched, screechy, whining noise.
EEEEeeeeeee...
So weird.
I feel so sorry for this blog :(
HAHAHAHAHAHA! I just laughed SO loudly reading these comments! Hilarious!!!! MPP, thanks for a GREAT blog!!!
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