From June of 2008
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Now that's a Black nanny. God I hope that issue can rest now. Maybe the avatars should just take a vacation for a while.
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DESPERATELY Seeking Daytime, Night Associates (Woodcliff Lakes; Ringwood, W. Milford)
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Reply to: comm-704719495@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-06-02, 12:07PM EDT
Hello - I'm Christine!
My small business is a temporary, short-term child care service.
I currently have a Client with an emergency situation this summer during both days and evenings, M-F. I have about 3 months of daily coverage to fulfill.
PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH AUTISM OF ANY AGE OR LEVEL IS NEEDED.
I also have many other Clients in need of days.
This is a great way for you to supplement your income. As an Independent Contractor, you get to choose your pay scale, area of service, and availability. The current Associate Fee is 10% of what you earn through my business (for every 100 bucks you make, I earn 10.). You can visit my website - http://www.ChristineAdlerCare.com - to download the Potential Associate Form or email me today to get started.
Please note that I do not hire employees, and that you must be legally allowed to work in the United States.
Location: Woodcliff Lakes; Ringwood, W. Milford
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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This person gets a fee for finding nannies and babysitters from Craigslist. I wonder if her clients know where she finds her referrels.
Sorry i posted this in the worng spot before
Full Time Live-out Nanny for 5 month old daughter needed (Smyrna)
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Reply to: comm-705174016@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-06-02, 5:08PM EDT
Live-out nanny needed for our adorable and happy 5 month old daughter.
NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY, since I work from home and will still be nursing her.
Perfect for a STUDENT who wants to earn some money and still be able to study while the baby is napping or when I am nursing her.
Needed from about 9:30am to 5:30pm M-F. $250/week, negotiable, for only about 20 hours of work per week (since she is napping or nursing the rest of the time).
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Be AT work for 40 hours, but only "really work" 20 hours? Can nanny leave during nap/nursing time? What happens when baby stops napping/nursing?
Sheesh.
3:18
ReplyDeleteYou mean white nanny w/ black children, right?
What a cool change of pace.
A very sad incident in today's news:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/02/BAQ1111R1G.DTL&tsp=1
If only the people who "alerted" someone ELSE would have gone straight to the child to help. I don't understand how people could just pass on by without intervening.
CALIMOM, I tried to pull up this article with no luck. can you give a little more info so I can google it?(sfgate)
ReplyDeletecraigslistcrusader..what the hell is wrong with a nanny from CL??
ReplyDeleteas long as finger prints are run and references are verified..who cares how she found them? Just out of curiosity??? where do you think your local agency finds the nannies that they send out to peoples homes?? The nanny store??
nannies are people who browse Cl, and classified ads and store bulletin boards looking for a job..that is how the agencies find them..because they advertise where they know we are looking!
You are a moron!
you are just looking to cause problems for someone who has shown a little moxy and took advantage of something right in front of her !! Shame shame shame!
would you rather she be standing in a welfare line using our taxpayers money to feed herself and her kids..you probably would so you could bitch about that too!
lv her/him alone..she/he is working and that is wonderful!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with finding a nanny from craigslist. I just wonder if she discloses to the parents who use her services where she finds her nannies. Semms strange that parents would pay a fee to someone who is doing something they could do for themselves.
ReplyDeletecc..if they wanted to do it themselves they would not go to someone like her in the first place!! Hello!!!
ReplyDeleteClC no need to explain, people with at least two brain cells to rub together know what you are about.
ReplyDeleteHmm it worked for me just now but I'll try it it again:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/02/BAQ1111R1G.DTL&tsp=1
A 2 yr old girl somehow wandered outside in the wee hours of the morning and was reported missing by her family. In the meantime she was seen by a couple of people wandering by the side of the road and they "alerted" a worker nearby but the girl was hit and killed by a hit and run driver.
Maybe a direct link would help?
ReplyDeletewhat a horrible story.My prayers are with that little girls family.
ReplyDeleteI hope the people that alerted someone did not see your insensitive comment calimom.
A few years back a man and his family were traveling and saw a dog on running along the road. The man stopped to get the dog because his family feared it would get hit.
While he exited his van to go after the dog a car hit him and killed him .
Acciednts as horrible as this unfortunatley happen and the people who alerted someone did what they were able to do.We do not know why they did not stop and pick up the child.. but to make them feel bad for something that was not their fault is just mean and hurtful.Don't you think they already feel just sick about the whole thing.why go out of your way to imply that they were at fault?
Ultimatley who ever was caring for the child was responsible but because we are all parents we understand that toddlers are fast and accidents happen, yes, even horrible accidents like this one..as far as finding fault or making anyone feel like they are to blame..well, I don't understand why anyone would do that..there is already enough pain and guilt somewhere over this story.
Maybe a thank you to the people who tried to help by alerting a worker that there was child on the roadway and an I am sorry to the family of the child instead of negative posts would be welcomed and better recepted at this time...don't you think calimom..
How hard would it be to just take the child away from the road.
ReplyDeleteAnd then to stay in the same area and have someone call the police. Even if you have to hold that child while waiting for the police its better than just watching them wander around.
not arguing your point..but the tradgedy has already happened and calimoms remark was only made to add insult to injury at this point@!
ReplyDeletethere is no call for such behavior!
not arguing your point..but the tradgedy has already happened and calimoms remark was only made to add insult to injury at this point@!
ReplyDeletethere is no call for such behavior!
mm& CM you two need to get together..you are made for each other..both mean spirited and argumentitive..why are you both so rotten?
ReplyDeletedo you not have enough love in your lives.
being mommies I would think you would have softened a little so as to teach your children how to be kind and how to deal when faced with opposition..
you both just go for the jugular..perhaps that is what hiding behind a computer and moniker have afforded you...I do hope you are more mindful when in front of your children.
If you were children**our kids would not be allowed to play with either of you!
2:11
ReplyDeleteYou've got it all wrong. Calimom is upset BECAUSE nothing was done for the child. Ultimately that is what hurts everyone here. How can we be mindful of 2 people who's CIVIC DUTY should've been to do more for that HELPLESS child wandering on the road.
There is enough guilt to go around, yes.
And it is well deserved!
I'm sorry but I agree with Cali mom. I don't understand how anyone could not be alarmed enough to stop and help a 2 year old wandering alone down the street at 5:30 in the morning. If this was your child you would think the same thing. As for even bringing up the story about the the man getting hit while helping a dog, I'm sorry that's a dog (i am a dog lover by the way) and this was a baby! Someone's child is gone forever and it could've been avoided and if stating that fact upsets some of you, well sorry it is a sad story and maybe there is something to be learned from it.
ReplyDeleteCongrats TX Nanny :-)
ReplyDeleteThanks JerseyXJacqui, she should be here any day now:)
ReplyDeleteWith all the talk of pervs on here and oics of men taking legal pictures of kids I would be afraid to stop and touch a little girl wandering by herself. Some vigilante nanny might post my photo here and call me a perv for trying to help!
ReplyDeleteThank you to the sensib;e people here who an understand why I find this upsetting.
ReplyDeleteTo 2:11, good. I wouldn't want my son aywhere near your defective genetic material. And if you find my comments about the very preventable death of this little girl so insensitive, you must be sobbing uncontrollably 24/7 at the harsh cruelties of this cold cold world we live in.
11:45 exactly. Why would it be so difficult to go and stand with the girl until help could be called. I suppose if the driver who killed her offered to pay $100 towards funeral expenses, it would be "insensitive" of me to criticize someone for doing what they could to help. *eye roll*.
calimom.though you often post anonymous, your posts are always you..I understand now,you are the kind of person who no matter what the situation is, dead child and all, has got to make her point just so it is made and just so everyone knows "she" is right..it could have been prevented.
ReplyDeletewell, calimom, you are right..so,
I hope that now that you made your case and have everybodies attention you feel good.
hey anon 523 otherwise known as cm, who do you think you are> How dare you lay blame on a stranger walking to work that morning!
ReplyDeleteThis child's parents are the one's who allowed this to happen!
It is their job to watch her.
who the hell are you lady?
you sure think your shit don't stink!
soon to be mommy, as you are pregnant I am not going to battle with you..out of respect for your health, however, I find both you and calimom a bit pompous in the fact that you are laying blame on people who spotted this child. I have not heard either of you mention that the parents are at fault here.
ReplyDeleteYou should both know better and I think you are being awfully critical of the wrong people!
Yes the parents are the main people to blame here, no doubt. I just don't understand why people are so upset with Cali mom's confusion as to why the people who saw her basically did nothing. Just like she originally said this is a sad sad story and a lot of adults let this poor child down, starting with her parents and ending with the adults who could've helped. I know I could never see a toddler wandering a street alone and decide it was her parents' problem and only mention it to somone else and assume that they would get around to taking care of it. I think I am a normal human being with feelings and that's why it gets to me that someone was in the position to keep this child alive and did not.
ReplyDeletewhere I live we have a Safeway that employs several "special needs" employees.
ReplyDeleteThey walk by my home everyday.
They always talk to me about my children and the neighborkids.
They most often pass by our home in the morning around 10am but I have also seen them walk by before 7am and after 9pm when it is dark. I can tell you right now, they know when something is wrong pertaining to a child and might mention it but would never act on it as they do not have the mental capacity to do so.
Unless you know why this person (or people)did not pick up this child, you should be very careful making accusations or implying any wrong doing. You do not know the situation. You were not there.
soon to be mommy, yes your feelings are normal. Can I ask how you know these were adults that did not pick up the baby?
ReplyDeleteYou know what, I'm done. I will say a prayer for the family of the child and just hope that this story might make people think twice if they see a child that might need assistance. I wasn't emplying that the people who passed by should be punished or are terrible just that I understood why cali mom might think it was weird that they didn't do more that is all.
ReplyDeleteagain, I post..
ReplyDeleteI think that this is a very sad situation and has touched many of us ,if not all of us deeply. Tx mommy and CM are doing the natural thing when greiving for a child and that is finding a place to lay blame. It is a natural reaction, very "human" as soon to be TX mommy mentions.
yes, I too think this family can use all the prayers we can send.
ReplyDeleteas I said earlier..negative posts, as to whom should have done what, are not going to make any of us feel better nor or they able to help the situation. They are at this point, only hurtful and judgemental.
well, if calimom had been there nothing bad would have happened cause nothing ever happens when she is around..she is supermom..super stranger..super observer..
ReplyDeletehey to all of you blaming these bystanders ..I hope you realize..you are not allowed to be judge and jury
ReplyDeletethat my friends is reserved for the big guy upstairs and for anyone standing next to you, they might want to take 5 giant steps forward so as to avoid being struck by lightening when the bolts come down from the heavens!!!
seriously..what a bunch of judgemental people.
Calimom you are the biggest one of all..my gosh..there is no way you could know the same god I do..the same god that is now looking over this little girl and her family wondering at a time like this..why you are all poiinting your fingers instead of praying!
TX mom..if this were my child..I would NEVER lay blame with anyone but myself..I would NEVER blame a stranger for not keeping my child safe..that is my job as a parent!
6:22/6:24, actually I very rarely post anonymous. Ypu are confusing me with yourself.
ReplyDeleteSo I guess you who are slamming me for posting on this can agree then, that the hit and run driver bears no responsibility whatsoever for the girl's death, as it was her parents' fault for falling asleep that night, and letting her end up up outside. But of course, if some nanny had happened to walk past her, and mentioned in passing to someone else that a toddler was in danger, and then she had been killed, you folks would be forming a lynch mob, demanding her blood and running her out of town with a scarlet M for Murderer on her back.
God does indeed have the final judgment over us, but he gave us consciouses that allow us to determine right from wrong. However, the bystanders here really didn't do anything wrong and they certainly intended to do something good. It just didn't work out as perhaps they'd hoped.
ReplyDeleteThose responsible for the safety of their child are the parents. There is no use trying to blame the bystanders and the parents will have to live with their guilt for the rest of their lives. Many marriages break up over the death of a child and many times it is due to the guilt and/or the blame laying. My prayers are with them. There is nothing that compares with the loss of a child.
AND to that those of you who are so intent on picking a fight with me over anything you can fabricate not that you will be ale to grasp this and move on but OF COURSE the parents have the primary responsibility for the child's safety. But I hate to think that all of you would see a baby wandering by the side of the road in the middle of the night and you would just pass on by not even staying close to the child beause her parents should have been more careful. I think you must be the kind of people who would purposely run over a dog and tell the owners the dog should have been on a leash.
ReplyDeleteOMG I have not even read this thread yet, but Calimoms last post strikes home with me.
ReplyDeleteI am sure this is already an "urban legend" (hehehe), but I was born ot a 17 yr old mother and a 20 yr old father. We lived (obviously) in a crappy neighborhood while my father worked his way through college and law school, besides supporting a family on what a 20 year old can earn working in a factory. (My mom quit her factory job and took in other kids to babysit to help make ends meet after she came to pick me up at the babysitters one day and was outraged to find I had been kept in a playpen for hours. For being 17 I do have to give her brownie points for her mothering instincts back then!)
ANYWAY, one morning when I was barely old enough to be walking, my parents were awakened at about 5:00am by a knock at the door. it was still dark outside. Much to their surprise, there was a big burly trucker at the door...HOLDING ME! He had found me wandering along the highway, realized because of my age that I couldn't be far from where I started, and took the initiative to start knocking on doors until he got the right one! THANK YOU to people who take the time not only to bitch about how other people take care of kids, but to actually put your money where your mouth is and HELP when you see one in obvious need!
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ReplyDeleteAn Algood mother arrested for biting her 9-month-old daughter told police she did so in retaliation for the toothless infant biting her.
Police arrested 29-year-old Stacie Marie Davis last week and charged her with child abuse.
According to the police report, Davis said she was sitting on the kitchen floor with her daughter when the infant became fussy and bit her on the forehead.
The mother said she then spanked the child on her bottom and bit her on her right elbow.
TALK ABOUT PARENTING ISSUES with other moms
Davis said she didn't mean to leave marks, which Algood Police Officer Mark Steel said were still visible seven to eight hours after the incident.
Davis was booked in the Putnam County Jail, but made a $10,000 bond.
She's due in General Sessions Court later this month.
Mom, that is the craziest story I have heard yet on this board!!!
ReplyDeleteWow. So glad he found you! :0. Sounds as if that trucker was a guardian angel at the very least!
The only good story that my parents ever told me about myself was about my first word. It was "Hamburgler." It really was. I saw this parade when I was a baby and the McDonaldland people walked by and apparently I pointed and said, "Hamburgler."
I know that's off topic, sorry.
Again, glad that trucker found you!
there you are calimom..still having to prove your point!
ReplyDeletelow self esteem is a terrible thing.
take some lessons from SPRAK..
that is confidence and class.
I beg your pardon, 9:07, but I resent being used to denigrate another poster who I admire. Let me ask you a question about the incident of the child who was seen wandering beside the road and later run over and killed. Do you wish that the bystander had intervened more directly and stayed with the child? I know that I do. However, that's not what happened and recriminations are not going to bring her back. I think I understand that CaliMom strongly believed that more should have been done for the child, and you know what? I'd have stayed with that child no matter what. Just so you know.
ReplyDeleteMy mom bit me once as a child because I almost took a chunk out of another kids cheek at a play date at our house. Apparently I never bit again after she did that.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I would bite back with my own kids but I have to say that even when I bite my husband playfully or the other way around when we feel like just being goofy with each other (nothing sexual people so relax). I bite hard and never has a light mark stayed around for more than a couple of hours. Though I have to say sometimes I bite hard by accident without even realizing it.
SPRAK, I had no doubts what so ever that you would reprimand me as you did, sticking up for your fellow regular, I still however feel that both CM and many others could take lessons from you. Your points are always stated well, informational and usually quite objective.
ReplyDeletePlease keep in mind here, my original post stated just what you stated and that is, to CM this is no time to post a negative comments about what "should " have happened as it is not helpful, but rather positive posts and prayers for the family. Of course we all would have snagged that child up in a second..but we were not there and do not know the circumstances and for CM to state "if only they had done this,& I can't beleive they did that" was not needed.
informative not informational.
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ReplyDeleteGood grief! Are you somehow implying that BOTH of these people that could've saved this child's life were impaired, and that's why they did nothing??
Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound?
You must be the one who's impaired!!
To the poster of the wanted nanny for $250 a week. If you went to work for 40 hours wouldn't you want to be paid for 40 hours not half that? Are you saying that it is ok for the nanny to go out whole the baby is asleep? If so be prepared to see her posted about here because unless you are going to pay fair wages you are going to get a bad nanny.
ReplyDeleteTo the poster(s) that have a personal vendetta against Calimom, you really need to get a life! Have you nothing better to write about?
ReplyDeleteTalk about judgemental!
There will be a special place in hell for mean ass people like you! Better wear a bikini!
i love it when the regulars lose the moniker so they can stick up for a pal..how sweet! what a loyal bunch
ReplyDeleteSadly, it is always easy to play Monday morning quarterback. Hindsight is 20/20.
ReplyDeleteIt is natural to be reactionary to news that upsets us by making declarations about how we would have handled it or what could have been done to prevent it. That's just human nature.
The truth is, none of us knows how we will react in any given situation unless we have actually been in the exact same circumstances before. Unfortunately, in life or death situations, you only get one chance, sometimes in a split second to react.
Many times, people don't act because they think others will. This is tragic but again it's human nature. There are people who act and people who react, and sometimes the latter react by doing nothing at all.
A few years ago, my daughter slammed the car door on her finger, severing the top half of it almost completely, She was screaming and bleeding all over. I wrapped her hand in a towel then we rushed to the emergency room. The next day several of my neighbors asked what had happened and I told them. They were horrified. My next door neighbor, whom I know for 20 years, said she heard my daughter screaming and she knew something bad had happened. Me being me, I asked her why the hell she didn't come out to see what was going on, I could have used some help. She said she was afraid. I didn't bother to ask her of what. Fear is a difficult emotion to master, and sometimes it paralyzes us.
I think Cali-mom feels outraged over this situation and is reacting in a perfectly normal fashion. She can't change the outcome so she is comforting herself by going over the what ifs and should have dones, it's a coping method.
it depends on the situation, MM. some situations are truly life or death situations like grabbing a person out of the way of a moving car. could I do that at the risk of losing my own life? maybe, maybe not. if i saw a toddler alone on the side of a highway i would have no other recourse but to stay with her until i knew she was safe. i've had children come up to me in stores at various times during my life asking me to find mommy. you bet i accompanied them to store security.
ReplyDeletewhat's done is done- - as you said and there's guilt enough here to go around which obviously solves
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I was driving to work yesterday when I saw a retriever slip out of an ajar gate. From there he started to walk down the sidewalk. I looked quickly for a place to pull over so I could tell the homeowner, but there was no place. The dog disappeared over the hill. All day long and all last night, I was a wreck wondering about that dog, hoping that my failure to act hadn't cost some family their pet.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous1 I agree, with you 100%. If I saw a child alone or hurt I would act and I think most people would. I do know some people (In-laws) who I would bet money would not. They subscribe to the belief that you MYOB and never get involved, this way, it can't go wrong for you. These are cold people but they are out there. They have explained themselves to me many times. Fear of being sued, causing more harm tthan good, etc, but I just don;t get it. I'm not thta person so I can't wrap my brain around it.
ReplyDeleteEthan Hawke and his pregnant girlfriend, that whore who used to be his kid's nanny while he was married to Uma, are getting married very very soon.
ReplyDelete"Ethan and Ryan [Shawhughes] are taking out their marriage license any day now," a source close to the couple confirms to us. "I wouldn't be surprised if they had the wedding this week!"
Thankfully now their child won't be a bastard.
But their mom is still a homewrecking slut!
Vi...you need to calm down. If you get this upset over every Hollywood relaionship that splits up because osmeone cheated, you will die early. Relax!
ReplyDeleteSomething else I believe a lot of people have is the ability to act out of reflex or instinct or even just pure adrenaline ... sometimes without even realizing the possible harm to themselves.
ReplyDeleteYou've heard of people running into burning buildings to save a toddler. Almost always when the newsman asks: "what made you risk your life", they usually say, "I wasn't thinking, I just did it".
To go back to a post by Craig's List Crusader regarding the woman who brokers nannies she finds on Craigs List. I would definitely want to know if the agency I used was recruiting from Craig's List! As you pointed out, I could find a nanny on Craig's List myself for free! While I am sure many fine people advertise and seek postions on Craig's List, I have not encountered any of them. Rest assured I will ask my agency where they find their childcare help from now on!
ReplyDeleteI was at the Land Of Make Believe In Hope NJ several years back with my child. She was old enough to be playing in the wading pool without me hovering.
ReplyDeleteThere was a little girl about 18 months old climbing the slippery stone stairs of the animal shaped slides that fed into the pool unsupervised. Even though they only had 4 steps, they were wet and if the child slipped backwards it would have meant a nasty clunk on the back of her head on the concrete.
Sure enough, as the child got more excited she became more clumbsy and mis-stepped. I caught her before she hit the concrete. Because she was very frightened by her fall she clung to me screaming. Suddenly a woman appeared out of nowhere and began howling at me for trying to kidnap her baby! Even though I tried to explain, she wouldn't hear it, claiming she was right there and she never saw her child fall! She screamed until security came. Luckily it was a busy day and several witnesses backed up my version of the events. Even still I was questioned quite a bit and my daughter quite upset by it all. I will admit it sure made me think twice about getting involved with an unsupervised child again!
Several years ago a group of moms I know were gabbing on the steps of the country club pool while their assorted two and three year olds played among them. They apparenty were quite engrossed in their conversation because by the time they noticed one of the toddlers had gone under, right there beside them, she was already unconscious.
ReplyDeleteI don't know who actually notice dfirst, them or the lifeguard, but the commotion of one got th eother into action. I know it was the lifeguard, who had to jump out of the chair into the water and make his way over there, who had the child in his arms before the mother...who would have only had to reach her arm out...so I kind of think it had to be the lifeguard who saw her first.
In any event, what followed (BTW the child was fine in the end) was the family of the child making several complaints and doing everything possible to try to have the "negligent" lifeguard fired.
I was completely appalled. Sure, he might have noticed sooner..but on the other hand, he was watching an entire pool full of children who diodn't have parents right beside them in the pool and probably took some comfort in the safety of the group of kids who were attended on the steps by their own mothers. And if not for him, who knows how long she may actually have gone unnoticed.
Some people are idiots and don't have the decency to recognize that they have played a part when something bad happens to their child. 11:22, good for oyu for doign what was right for the child...even though it cost you something in the end. I hope you will not hesitate next time either because of the actions of a lunatric mother. NO kid deserves to be hurt because her mother might be an ass.
When you do the right thing, and 11:22, you DID the right thing, you shouldn't look back and you shouldn't let that change you. I can imagine that was not pleasant for you being accused by the mother as you were. However, it would have been much more unpleasant had that toddler hit her head. She could have suffered a severe head injury.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, sometimes doing the right thing isn't appreciated, recognized or admitted by others. You have to know in your heart that you did what was right and have peace with that. Never let other people's misguided responses alter how you live your life.
Too bad there isn't such a law called "the good samaritan" law.
ReplyDeleteToo many sue happy people make it to where no one wants to get involved to help a person in dire need.
GOOD SAMARITAN LAW
ReplyDeleteA principle of tort law that provides that a person who sees another individual in imminent and serious danger or peril cannot be charged with negligence if that first person attempts to aid or rescue the injured party, provided the attempt is not made recklessly.
The Good Samaritan doctrine is used by rescuers to avoid civil liability for injuries arising from their negligence. Its purpose is to encourage emergency assistance by removing the threat of liability for damage done by the assistance. However, the assistance must be reasonable; a rescuer cannot benefit from the Good Samaritan doctrine if the assistance is reckless or grossly negligent.
Three key elements support a successful invocation of the Good Samaritan doctrine: (1) the care rendered was performed as the result of the emergency, (2) the initial emergency or injury was not caused by the person invoking the defense, and (3) the emergency care was not given in a grossly negligent or reckless manner.
STATES WITH GOOD SAMARITAN LAWS
Alabama
Section 6-5-332
Alaska
SECTION 09.65.090
Arkansas
A.C.A. § 17-95-101
Arizona
A.R.S. § 9-500.02.
California
Ann.Cal.Bus. & Prof.Code §2395.
Connecticut
C.G.S.A. §52-557b.
Colorado
CRS title 13-21-108
Delaware
16 Del.C. §6801 (a)
Florida
Section 178.13
Georgia
§31-11-8
Hawaii
Sec. 663-1.5
Idaho
I.C. §5-330
Illinois
210 ILCS 50/3.150
Indiana
IC 16-31-6-1
Iowa
I.C.A. §613.17
Kansas
K.S.A. §65-2891
Kentucky
KRS §411.148
Louisiana
LSA-R.S. 37:1731
Massachusetts
5-309 Chapter 137
Maryland
Maryland Law 5-309
Maine
Title 14 164
Michigan
333.20965
Minnesota
604A.01
Mississippi
§73-25-37.
Missouri
Section 190.092
Montana
27-1-714
North Carolina
G.S. 90-21.16
North Dakota
§ 20-9-4.1
Nebraska
25-21,186
Nevada
(NRS) 41.500
New Hampshire
Section 508:12
New Mexico
24-10-3
New Jersey
2A:62A-1
New York
Article 30
Ohio
§ 2305.23
§ 4765.49
Oklahoma
Title76.Torts Section5
Title76.Torts Section5.1
Section 698.17
Title 76. Torts Section 5.4
Oregon
(ORS) 30.800
Pennsylvania
42 Pa.C.S.A. § 8 332
Rhode Island
§ 9-1-27.1
South Carolina
SECTION 15-1-310
South Dakota
§ 20-9-4.1.
Tennessee
63-6-218.
Texas
6701d
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H.B. 2097
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SS 519 S.283
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4.24.3000
Washington DC
D.C. CODE 1981 §2-1344.
Wisconsin
895.48
West Virginia
55-7-15
Wyoming
1-1-120.
Yes, But unfortunately that "negligent and reckless manner" phrase is subject to WIDE (and sometimes COMPLETELY IDIOTIC) interpretation. Now and then it costs some selfless good samaritan his shirt.
ReplyDeleteI wish we had a "Climb Your Greedy, Selfish Ungrateful Ass Up Into This Catapult" law for those times!
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ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, sometimes doing the right thing isn't appreciated, recognized or admitted by others. You have to know in your heart that you did what was right and have peace with that. Never let other people's misguided responses alter how you live your life. "
this is true for all of those nannies who work in difficult positions for misguided parents and their shell shocked children.
2;14 You had a good point going, until you had to turn it into a mom vs nanny thing.
ReplyDeleteIf you really feel such disdain for mothers I sincerely hope you are not working for one, as her nanny.
Nannies, the reasonable moms on here recognize that there are some great nannies out there, and we are very thankful to and for them. Our dispariging comments regarding specific bad nanny sightings posted here do not reflect on our opinions of good nannies AT ALL.
This is a site about bad nannies. So every time a bad nanny sighting is posted, it is not appropriate to jump over the Grand Canyon of logic to the very misguided conclusion that everybody who disses a BAD nanny hates ALL nannies.
And further, as so many of the GOOD nannies on here have tried unsuccessfully to point out to you, you only serve to damage the nanny profession as a whole when you come on here and defend even the worst of nanny behaviors as not being worthy of mentioning. As in, we are now all wondering what exactly some of the bad nannies actually think constitutes bad behavior on their part! How low does somebody have to go before you think it is beyond "what the kid deserves", or worse, "what the mom deserves?!" When you come on touting the opinion that moms in general are jerks and kids in geneeral are spoiled and deserve the treatment they receive, what ELSE are we supposed to think?!
I guess I reall AM up to here with the blatant lack of locic I have seen displayed of late.
Methinks some posters on here are being purposely obtuse when boldly making their obviously slanted and far-fetched comments. Since they couldn't possibly believe their BS, my guess is that they want to get a rise out of us. The bottom line is that anybody who mistreats and/or abuses a child, regardless of their relationship to the child, is a horrible person. There is no valid excuse, no good argument, and no justification for such twisted behavior nor is there any saving grace for the perpetrator.
ReplyDeleteSprak,
ReplyDeleteYou are so enlightening with your comments. Previous, I had dismissed some of your posts as mean. Perhaps you suffer from seasonal affective disorder?
:)
Has anyone noticed how much urban baby SUCKS now?
ReplyDeleteI must say I am completely blown away by both Mom's (2:49) and Sprak's (3:17) posts.
ReplyDeleteI am usually not as impressed because I've become immune to your extraordinary writing, but really, this is phenomenal!
Mom, I always enjoy reading what you have to say, but it seems lately you've been laying out my sentiments exactly, and I have no need to toss in my opinion!
And Sprak, we've become accustomed to seeing you with a specific disposition, and you know what I mean (not that I mind!)... but you are coming across so amazingly graceful with your postings lately.
I just had to say my peace. ☺
Thank you MPP!
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I need someone to drive my kids to camp for 1 week! (mendham)
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Date: 2008-06-05, 1:32PM EDT
Actually they aren't my kids. ha
I am their babysitter.
I need coverage june 23-27.
Be here at 8 sharp and drive them to
camp.. THATS IT!
EASY MONEY!
You can even use the family car
Location: mendham
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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This could be perfectly innocent, but just strikes me as weird. I wonder if the parents know.
Is anyone on who gets NY1? Can you tell me if the guy made it to the top of the building???
ReplyDeleteto the poster at 8:12 PM...he did. thankfully.
ReplyDeleteJane, I don't know exactly what you'd be looking for in an ISYN Feature, but I'd love to write something to start a discussion about the dynamic between nannies and the moms they meet on the job.
ReplyDeleteI've found that I am frequently welcomed into a group of moms until I reveal that I am "the nanny". At that point, walls and barriers go up, and I get definite vibes of mistrust, disregard, and general "You do not belong here or count in any way" vibes.
Maybe I have just been meeting all the mean girl moms for the last 15 years, but...
In any case, I'd like to write something up if that's what you're looking for.
Let me know!
chick,
ReplyDeletePlease meebo or email me about this.
Awww, I have that same "Cat in the Hat" .....
ReplyDelete"CatDog", lol.
Hey, why not have the posters send in pictures of their pets? Now that we know one another better and some of us are somewhat friends, that could be fun.
ReplyDeleteGreat idea. It's not like we could send in pictures of our kids! lol
ReplyDeletefg, I was just thinking the same thing when I saw the adorable dog picture!
ReplyDeleteJan, do you want our puppy pictures?
Chick, I made a very good "nanny" friend once upon a time. She a decade younger than me and unmarried, so we didn't hang out on her free hours...but we made several playdates when she had the kids, hung out at the pool together, etc. We enjoyed each other's company quite well. I htink it worked out for us because she was such a fantastic nanny and treated the kids as if they were her own. That easily led to a situation of mutual respect. I have not problem being friends with nannies, or anybody of any profession. Heck, my own family spans the ENTIRE economic spectrum....people I love dearly.
But I do like my friends to be of high caliber in the morals and ethics department. Truthfully, most of the nannies I saw at the park and pool (NOT ALL) took poor care of the kids they watched and so I would have had trouble relating ot them on a peer level. I saw them as mean, and taking advantage of their employers. I was not raised to be that way and have no way to relate to such people.
This also goes for any profession. We know a few of those lawyers who give the whole profession a bad name too...and I have no time for them either. I say this to point out that it's not a matter of economics, but a matter of character.
Although (and I have said this before and taken some heat for ti...but it's true) I think I have had the misfortune to witness MOSTLY illegal park bench nannies in action. I think there are different nanny climates in different areas.
I've found that the quality of nanny is directly related to what the parents are paying as a wage, and the treatment of the nanny. And I too, have taken heat for this stand.
ReplyDeleteWhen a person agrees to accept a position as important as childcare, it's obvious they should do the best possible job they can regardless of the salary and benefits they agreed upon. However, in the real world, this is not the case. More often than not substandard pay gets a sub-standard nanny.
I pay my nanny $18.00 per hour, which is the going rate in our area plus a gasoline allowance. She gets 3 weeks paid vacation, the same as me as well 5 paid sick days and 3 paid personal days, again the same as me. She gets all paid holidays I get and the occasional bonus paid day off when I decide to take a long weekend with my family. She receives a birthday and Christmas bonus that's equal to a weeks pay on her birthday and 2 weeks pay at Christmas, plus a gift from the children. She is always on time, never calls out sick so I end up paying her for unused sick days. She goes above and beyond whenever I need her. By the same token, I don't take advantage of her. I respect she has her own life and family and so I give her notice if I am going to be late. If I am running late unexpectedly, I let her know. I have several relatives and friends to call on as well as a back-up sitter because I never assume my nanny can just cancel her plans and stay late because I need her too.
I am repeatedly advised by co-workers that I am paying too much for my childcare, as they employ foreign Au Pairs. Others find illegal 'nannies' who work for about $3.00 per hour. Of course, they have to deal with people who speak no or little English, and they go through nannies like people go through socks because the nannies either take off never to be heard from again, steal, show up late, don't show up at all or get caught providing improper care or being downright neglectful.
I firmly believe, you get what you pay for.
I had a good laugh...no wonder why her other arrangements fell through...would you work for this amount? LOL
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I NEED CHILDCARE FOR MY TWO YEAR OLD AND SIX YEAR OLD SONS... I HAD OTHER ARRANGEMENTS THAT FELL THROUGH. I WOULD NEED SOMEONE MONDAY THRU THURSDAY 7:30AM- UNTILL ABOUT 6:30PM USUALLY A LITTLE EARLIER. IM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO START MONDAY, JUNE 16. I LIVE IN INDEPENDECE,BUT TRAVEL TO CENTRAL JERSEY FOR WORK SO ANY WHERE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WOULD BE FINE. IM CURRENTLY PAYING $200.00 A WEEK AND WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT COMPARABLE.... PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP....
So what does everyone think of Jezebel?
ReplyDeleteI feel violated and oddly liberated.
ReplyDelete"IM CURRENTLY PAYING $200.00 A WEEK AND WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT COMPARABLE...."
ReplyDeleteComparable?? Is she high?!!
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Wanted - Part-time Nanny for live-in (Brooklyn Park Slope)
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Date: 2008-06-07, 10:29AM EDT
We are looking for a great addition to our small family. The ideal person will enjoy hanging out with a very fun 9 year old girl. You must be a kind and loving person who has fun with silly kids. The position is very part time and there will be a lot of time for you to pursue other interests during the day. In fact, we would be happy to see you taking college classes. Throughout the school year the hours are not difficult because my child will be in school and in an afterschool program until 6pm during the week. She visits grandma most weekends.
You will have your own room and food is provided. You must be very reliable. Non-smokers only will be considered.
Main responsibilities will include:
Getting my daughter off to school by 8:30am (2 blocks away),
Pickup from afterschool program (by 6pm),
Helping with homework,
some nights in, (Saturday nights always off)
a couple of hours on the weekend,
some dog walking,
Straightening up the apartment as needed,
Occasional cooking for my daughter.
This job will require about 15-20 hours per week and you will have a lot of freedom. It is possible for you to work other jobs or go to school. The pay is $400/month. Start date is some time this summer and we prefer someone who intends to stay for a year. We will begin interviewing soon.
Respond by email please.
Thank you
1:35 PM Scarsdale, NY
ReplyDeleteI was just outside for ten minutes. It is impossibly hot here. Anyone else dying in NY?
I do remember this!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://childcaregonewrong.blogspot.com/2008/06/saturday-june-7-2008.html
But how could I find the story that was on here in the archives?
You cant pull this with an older child because they would spill the beans.
Jane
ReplyDeleteI see you did some redecorating ... nice! ☺
Thank you, MPP.
ReplyDeleteIt definately was HOT today!
ReplyDeleteI think this website is a disgrace. What gives you people the right to impinge on people's civil liberties in such a manner! If you see someone doing the wrong thing (whether it be a nanny or a parent)approach them and tell them so, rather than plastering it all over the net! I'm a teacher and hold an MA. I happened upon this ridiculous site during my search for an after school/vacation nanny position and am simply disgusted by the lack of respect given to people working in the childcare industry. I know I am a fantastic educator and nurturer of children in my care but we all make errors of judgement- nobody's perfect all the time. I think I'll stick to after school tutoring- I certainly don't need this BS!
ReplyDelete4:36,
ReplyDeleteDon't be a sourpuss! As a former nanny, I don't find this site to be a nanny-bashing site at all. There are nannies as well as moms on here, and nannies who are moms! I feel the blog administrator Jane does a pretty good job of showing all sides to a story, and we are pretty much free to comment however we so choose, as are you but to say this blog is a disgrace shows only one thing....
you are JEAL-ous!!!!
I wish my blog were as popular as this: Jane had a great idea, and should be commended for it.
So you have an MA, big freaking deal: I have a BA and an extensive wand collection. So hahaha.
Word.
Omg! I love you, Umass! Lmao!
ReplyDelete"I have a BA and an extensive wand collection. So hahaha."
Thank you for making my morning!!
you are quite welcome, my dear! :)
ReplyDeleteHowdy umass,
ReplyDeleteYou really are a fan! My daughter also has an extensive wand collection...courtesy of her indulgent "best Grandpa in the world!", who bought a lathe specifically for the purpose of making her wands! (To be fair, he wanted to keep his mystique alive, and my kids...still to some extent, in fact...believe that "Papa can make anything.") So, when she asked him, "Papa, can you make me a wand?" he didn't want to make her just any old plain wand. They are very intricately carved, with beautifully painted handles. And they come in various sizes, to accomodate her many different sizes of dolls, who Papa thought might also like to play Hermione with her.
You wouldn't believe what materialized when she asked him, "Papa, can you make me a play house!" hehehe
Mom, that is so cool! My Dad is a carpenter and my late Grandfather, his dad, was one as well. I direct a children's theatre group and my Dad has made some beautiful scenery for us.
ReplyDeleteWands: love them! But mine are from Alivan's the Muggle wand store. (also have an authentic Draco Malfoy wand replica, but it's made of porcelain so I can't play with it (much) :) Lucky girl, your daughter, though, to have homemade ones, made with such love too! :)
Your nanny's boobs are on Myspace. She works for 2 families in NYC/Hamptons and is a model. Just wondering how you feel about that? She has NO nanny or babysitting experience- if you got refs they were fake. You people just hand your kids over to anybody! I know of another nanny who looks like a complete crackhead because she is and has done at least a dozen porns, escorting and is on porn websites. I don't get it.
ReplyDeleteGee, that about narrows it down.
ReplyDeleteYou wanna help a parent out and give a bit of a description of this nanny?
4:36
ReplyDelete"I think I'll stick to after school tutoring- I certainly don't need this BS!" ....
Yes, please stick to after school tutoring. You'll be doing parents all over a big favor.
"If you see someone doing the wrong thing (whether it be a nanny or a parent) approach them and tell them so" ....
Yeah, right. And if you were a regular reader of this blog you would know that sometimes approaching a pissed off nanny, or one that was abusing a child ... might make the situation worse by sticking your nose in where it doesn't belong. Don't think for a minute that hasn't ever happened.
"What gives you people the right to impinge on people's civil liberties in such a manner!" ....
It's not always o.k. to get involved. And sometimes we have no choice but to report it here, and hope the parents get wind of it and handle it accordingly.
"I think this website is a disgrace" ....
This site does a lot of good, and if your not going to hang around and sing it's praises, we don't need you, so carry on.
she has only lived in NYC a few months, also works at a resturant I believe and is mixed white and hispanic but looks mostly hispanic. Short hair but usually has extensions in. Oh- and fake boobs lol. She is 21.
ReplyDeleteSounds more like a babysitter than a nanny. She works in a restaurant, too? I would think a real nanny wouldn't have the time.
ReplyDeleteI'm an awesome nanny AND A moomy AND I collect Lighsabers! (Though I have a few wands)
ReplyDeleteThe other day when my charges were both home sick, we did "potions" what fun!
Oh and I love this place!
nope nanny day m-f one fam., nights at resturant and weekends another fam in the hamps.
ReplyDelete2:52, if you were really concerned about the welfare of this nanny's charges, you'd find a way to alert the parents or at least be more specific. This sounds like a personal vendetta...her boobs are on myspace? She's a model and part time waitress? SO WHAT? Granted the myspace thing is inappropriate but I have a feeling you mentioning it is more indicative of some sort of resentment on your part.
ReplyDeletemaybe she's jealous of nannies ASSets?
ReplyDeleteI would never let a person who is into Harry Potter and Collecting lightsabers look after my dog never mind my kids! GROW UP!!!!!
ReplyDeleteyou wrote:
ReplyDelete"I would never let a person who is into Harry Potter and Collecting lightsabers look after my dog never mind my kids! GROW UP!!!!!"
You will be missing out on some great, creative, fun people if this is true. I feel sorry for your dog and your kids. You sound judgemental and closed minded, not to mention completely out of touch with your inner child.
That's what I was going to say:
ReplyDeleteWhere's your 'inner child'?
Why does a person always have to be stiff and upright? These are kids we're dealing with, and I will say this much ... I've never come across one that didn't like Harry Potter.
And last Halloween ... take a big guess who my son dressed up as?
Yep, Harry Potter, and he looked awesome!!
Well, beileve it or not, there are some parents at our Christian school who think my daughter is bad, and that I am a negligent parent because I allow her to read Harry Potter books! (Magic, you know? Evil. Evil. Evil.) One mom won't even let her come to her house. That same mom got onto the computer and IMd my daughter to tell her she thought the books were evil and that she should not be reading them. (I was a bit hacked over that, since she knows that I ,as the mom, approve of the books, and have given MY permission for MY daughter to read them.) What's really weird about that is that her daughter reads the same books as mine, only she has to LIE to her mom about it. (I did tell my daughter, however, that I didn't want her loaning books to the girl that her mom didn't want her having because 1) we have to respect her wishes as a mom and 2) She would only blame my daughter as the cause of her daughters lies if she was the source of the "evil" literature.)
ReplyDeleteThere are a few moms like that at our school, and some at our church too. Oh well.
My daughter is a great girl in every way a parent could hope for. She has a great head on her shoulders, and is strong, confident and independent. (Having to deal with the weirdo moms at school...who I find to be ironically hypocritical considering all of their preaching...has helped us both to become much stronger these past couple of years. So, thank you to them for that anyway.)
She is also very well read and a FANTASTIC writer. (That comes from all of the reading.)
She is perfectly able to read things without having to do, believe, or become everything she sees in print. It's called learning to THINK and DISCERN. When she reads something that she disagrees with on a religious, moral, or any other basis, she is able to still enjoy the book and realize that there is a difference between right and wrong. Duh. And if she has questions, she will ask me about them.
Hehe...being somewhat of a rebel, she likes to choose books for her "required outside reading" that she knows will cause a raised eyebrow. They have to read a certain number of pages per semester and give an oral report to the teacher. (Her reading is always done for the year within the first few weeks of school. Gee, I wonder if that is because she is allowed to READ WHAT INTERESTS HER?)She likes to walk in and say, "For my outside reading, I read The Da Vinci Code," (also a big no no to some religious zealots.)Sometinms I do have to say to her, "Thanks. I love having the other moms stare me down at school functions." (But then we laugh.)
My personal opinion is that isolation does not create virtue. It only creates ignorance.
Oops, what I meant by that last comment is that I would rather my kids know what is out there (Within some reason obviously. I would not allow porn or other obviously "too mature" literature at the wrong age) and have the knowledge and strength to CHOOSE RIGHT, than to be completely unaware of and oblivious to what the world is really like, and what it has to offer. Plus, it gives us the oppportunity to discuss some tough topics while they are living at home with us, instead of being horrified by what they see when they get away to college.
ReplyDeletePS As I said, a lot of the other kids are reading what they want too...only they can't ask their moms about the confusing or troubling parts. What as shame.
I couldn't agree more, Mom. My late mother used to encourage me to read anything and everything: I was always reading as a child, and since I had older siblings, I was constantly reading several grade levels above my own.
ReplyDeleteDenying children literature is a crime, in my opinion. It is art. I too respect others' religious choices, and I think you are smart to advise your child not to interfere with her friend. But it is sad, with all the horrible things kids are exposed to in this world, that a little girl has to lie to her parents so she can partake in an amazing work of literature that can only bring knowledge and joy.
I think Harry Potter and Star Wars and all that is fine for kids, but I prefer a responsible nanny who is a grown up in every way. My kids love all that fantasy stuff, but I don't want my nanny playing with toys on her off time.
ReplyDeleteI saw those adults who dressed up for the book relase parties. They stayed until past midnight waiting for the last book. I wouln't let any of those freaks near a child!
I am happily one of 'those freaks'
ReplyDeleteI drssed up for the last book release and took my kids. We had a ball chasing each other around the store with our wands. I go to Renaissance festivals and Trick-or-treating with mmy kids, in full costume.
One of the things I look for in a childcare professional is a youthful attitude. I want the person caring for my children to be well versed in the four houses of Hogwarts. I want her to know why there are only two Sith Lords at a time and who Leanardo, Michael Angelo, Raphael and Donatello are (besides the artists.) This information is very important to my kids and if she is clueless about it she will have little to talk with them about. Of course, I want her to talk about other things with my kids and broaden their interests but she needs to be able to get theirs. And to be an effective parent, so do I.
manhattanmamma,
ReplyDelete50 house points to Gryffindor!
I quite agree with you on every point! :)
Slytherin, Mom and MM, I most definitely agree 100%. A wonderful quote by Albert Einstein: "Imagination is more important than knowledge". How do people invent and create WITHOUT being allowed to imagine? They don't.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a kid, my parents were on the FT staff of the (first and original, I believe) Renaissance Pleasure Faire and Dickens Christmas Fair here in the Bay Area, and I had THE most fantastic times of my life being involved too. I learned SO MUCH about the life and times of those periods, costume making, was exposed to so much acting, music and creativity surrounding it all. I can't imagine being expected to give up all such interests just because I hit the age of 18, or had my own child.
When the last Harry Potter book came out, I had never yet been and decided I really wanted to go to the midnight party at a bookstore near my house. I have to admit I just had an okay time, but I was not as devoted or knowledgeable in some of the "lore" as many attendees, and it was great to see the kids involved, dressed up and imagining, and creating. It reminded me of my social circles in my childhood and teenage years.
well, the posts here today offerred a lot of insight as to why some of the regulars are who they are..
ReplyDeleteto mom, now your posts make sense..you are teaching your daughter to act and think just like you.
To argue just for the sake of arguing is ridiculous.
To teach your child to color outside of the lines just to draw attention is sad.
I hope that as she grows older, she will lern to use some of the tools you have given her but will realize that it is also ok if she does not always stand out in the crowd and that mom will still approve.
1:46,
ReplyDeleteI saw nothing in anything Mom said to support your accusation. On the contrary, it seems as if she is encouraging her daughter to think for herself. It sounds to me as if her daughter is naturally an individual.
From what I have read of Mom's posts, I can see that she loves her children no matter what they do. It just so happens that they are intelligent, well-read, and creative children.
And mom seems like a kind, intelligent individual, not deserving of your ridiculous criticism.
I noticed that most of the posters think it is good that their kids learn to think on their own and have their own oppinons. This helps kids think and also gives them the courage to speak out abut thigns they do not agree with, it helps them not be sheep and go withthe crowd or agree because they are afraid to offend others.
ReplyDeleteThese are the kids that are not going to allow "peer pressure" affect their lives.
If my kid wants to color outside the lines go for it. I can think of better fights to have.
My daughter read a lot and she enjoyed it and had great grades. I watched somewhat what she read but she didn't pick out naything that wasn't appropriate for her age. Kids today are far more advanced then we were at their ages. They tend to grow up too fast and they do need to be monitored to a degree. I don't think Mom is trying to get her child to be a rebel , she is just trying to get her to be able to speak up for herself and not follow the sheep.
Sensible Slytherin speaks up again. And the irony is, 1:46 was actually attempting to make a gripe about people "arguing for the sake of arguing". Now I'm willing to bet good money that she/he/it will start to gripe and moan about how all the regulars stick up for each other, how she/he/it gets attacked every time they post, etc, etc, etc.
ReplyDeletecali mom,
ReplyDelete50 house points to Gryffindor for your excellent alliteration:
"sensible slytherin speaks!"
love it! Heheheh!
1:46, you make no sense.
ReplyDeleteI got from mom's post that she's raised a lovely daughter to think and do, all on her own. She hasn't hinted one bit that she's raising a "mini-me".
Did your nose get all bent out of shape from sticking it where it didn't belong?
Wow, I say good job to all of you today. I say 50 Points for each of you (except Debby Downer at 1:46...so all of the points awarded today will be deducted FROM HER and redistributed to you!)
ReplyDeleteActually, I have learned a lot FROM my daughter (and I think you can tell that I am SOOO proud of her.) I am more of a "rule follower" type by nature...but she has the courage to stand right up and do what she will, no matter what anybody thinks. (That said, she doesn't do anything outrageous or bad anyway.) She is actually sort of shy and not desirous of superflous attention, but she will not wilt in a corner for anybody either. (Damn, I wish I had been so strong at her age!)She rebels quietly and respectfully against what she views as hypocritical or just plain dumb. She doesn't try to make others feel bad for their choices, but she will not let them dictate hers either. She is not a child I worry about succumbing to peer pressure. I know I'm just her mom and may be a little biased ;)but I think she's a really neat kid and a really neat person...all in her own right.
I was an artist before I had any kids...so yeah, I think being creative and weird, and silly is very important for us all. Letting yourself get trapped in some uptight box only makes it all the easier for bugs to find you and crawl up "you know where." (Quick! Somebody get 1:46 a boxcutter...and some tongs! There may be hope for her yet!)
My daughter reads so many wonderful books. She writes her own creative stories (she and one of her best friends are each writing "books," and they critique one another on every chapter as they go. She writes poetry and drags around a huge book of Poe for her own amusement.
So yes, whoever you are with the bugs up your behind...I really hope to be more like my wonderful daughter!
Here is an amusing little story umasslytherin might appreciate. When we went to the private (Christian) school interviews for my children (this was just 2 years ago, whe she was about to go into 7th grade), the principal took each child into his office individually for an interview while we waited outside. We had not known beforehand that this would happen.
After that, they left the children in the outer office and brought my husband and me in for an interview. The principal looked at us intently and said, "I asked them each what they like to read in their spare time. Your daughter's answer was very interesting. In fact, she gave an answer that I have never heard before and I was a bit...er... surprised." Immediately in my mind I panicked and thought "Crap! Harry Potter! She wouldn't know not to say that and he must be one of THOSE people who think it's evil!" Just as I was beginning to list my second and third choice schools in my mind and making a mental note to prep her for the next interview, he said, "She said she likes to read European History...for FUN! Is that true?" Ahhhhh. Yes. She does love to read that.
And last year a teacher (one who has had both of my kids in her classes) asked me, "Do your kids read a lot?" When I said that they do, the teacher responded that she thought so because it is pretty obvious every time she reads one of their papers.
Mom,
ReplyDeleteYour daughter sounds alot like Hermione: smart enough to be a Ravenclaw, but with that special, daring "out of the box" quality reserved only for Gryffindors!
(High praise from a Slytherin!)
Awwww. Lovely story, Mom! You're daughter sounds really cool.
ReplyDeleteMy son is an excellent reader,
and is way past the cutsie toddler book stage.
He never ceases to amaze me with words I had no idea he knew. He's around a lot of adults most of the day, so I shouldn't be surprised he's picking any of it up.
He says he wants to read Harry Potter, so maybe we'll give it a go.
Does anyone (maybe Umass?!) know the reading age level of these books?
We've seen all the movies, and really enjoyed them, but I know the book is always better.
Especially since he wanted to be Harry Potter last Halloween, I think we may have a huge fan in the works! Hee-hee.
Awww, thanks umassslytherin and MPP! Umassslytherin, I will definitely be showing your coment to my daughter. She will love it!
ReplyDelete(Even I recognize what high praise that is...ESPECIALLY from a Slytherin! hehehe)
Tonight at dinner I was telling her about the Potter conversation taking place on ISYN, and what I had written about her. I realized I had pretty well bragged her up...but she is at such a sweet stage right now that I am just enjoying her so much.
MPP, I know you are protective of his privacy, so you don't have to say if you don't want to...but I am curious as to how old your son is. I believe my daughter was about 5 when I started reading the Harry Potter books to her. I don't know if she was interested because she was the right age, or because her brothers liked them so much and she just wanted to be "part of the gang," but she sat there and listened intently for as long as I would read. Even though my son was also reading them on his own privately, he LOVED to have me read them out loud to him too, and my daughter was always right there listening too. If your little man wanted to be Harry for halloween and enjoyed the movies, I would guess it might be worth a try...especially if he is a good reader. At worst, you put the book down for a few months and try again later. And kids who love the harry Potter books tend ot read them over and over and over again. So, if you start early, he will just gain a different perspective later when he reads them on his own.
My kids also loved the Laura Ingalls Wilder books when they were younger. I read the entire series to them. Even the boys could not get enough of hearing the pioneer stories, despite the fact that they are written from the perspective of a pioneer girl. (Although she is a scrappy, tomboyish girl.) We also visited some of the various Ingalls family homesites during our midwest visits. I really recommend that series too. (But I am getting sad that I don't have any "Babies" to read to anymore!)
thats okay mom, now since they are too old to read,maybe you can potty train them!
ReplyDeleteMom, I loved those Laura Ingalls Wilder books. I've read them all about 15 times through and remember parts of them by heart, practically. I also have read The First 4 Years, and Letters From Home, which she wrote after she married Almanzo, if you haven't read those yet.
ReplyDeleteAnd who fed the troll again?
Sorry, I think it's called West From Home. I'll have to look in my book collection.
ReplyDeleteI LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE the Laura Ingalls Wilder books!!! I got a vintage set on ebay for my daughter!
ReplyDeleteIn one of the books, Caroline and the girls (I think it's Plum Creek) dye the curtains for the dugout by using onion peels: makes it yellow, a trick learned from the Indians (who if you remember Caroline didn't care for, never stopped her from using their home/cooking tricks!) and me and my mother tried it, dying eggs yellow with onion peels. It really worked great! Better than any Easter egg die!
I adore those books!!! :)
How very cool, Umass!
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I don't know what came over me, but twice I got a little emotional (over Sprak's post, and again over 3:53's post from a different thread) and gave out more info than I meant to. It may sound silly, but I just don't want to provide anyone with any ammunition.
But to answer a last and final question on my son, he is very close in age to when you 1st started reading the Harry Potter books to your daughter when she was little, so that's very encouraging to me. I will sit down with him and we'll read together, and see how he does.
Thanks to everyone who offered support or help. ☺