Received Tuesday, January 16, 2007
Nanny Ashley continues to create chaos in the Raleigh/Durham area. Despite some of the comments from the first postings from people who didn't believe she could do such things like lie to parents, and go through their personal things, she did, and was fired for it. She then took those parents to small claims court saying they owed her over $500 for days after she was fired. The judge awarded her nothing, and said she was too immature to be a nanny. In Jan. she worked for a different family for only 2 days. After being fired from that family she posted an email on Craigslist saying that the family owed her over $1000. The girl will do anything but work an honest job to get money. I think the reason she didn't contact the parents the day she took the child to the E.R. was because she wanted to be paid for the hours that she was in the E.R. The parents have phone records showing that she never tried to call them. Then, when the parents were upset that she took their child to the E.R. she responded that it was, "no different than taking him/her to the library."The girl is not only a mediocre nanny, at best, but she is a nightmare as an employee. She thinks that a contract is a license to do whatever she wants, and that she should get paid even if she is fired. Why would you want to hire someone like that?She is a CNA, the earlier post was a mistake. I have witnessed Ashley's crazy behavior firsthand. I am only trying to warn people in my area not to get involved with her. It is suspected that Ashley stole her references from her last employer's house before she was fired so they can not get in touch with them to let them know what is going on, and prevent her from getting a childcare job that way. This is the best way to warn people. Ashley is looking for a job all over Cary, Raleigh, Durham, Carrborro, and Chapel Hill. Good luck.
We welcome Ashley (or anyone referenced on this blog) the opportunity to correct or refute this or any posting on this blog.-JD
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Received from "Ashley" on 1/18/07
I am Ashley, and here is an email from SXXXXX the last employer stating her son did something with the references sheet:
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@aim.com
Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Nanny Needed
Ashley:
I really enjoyed meeting you on Friday and I have called all of your references and spoken to all but 1. I have lost the sheet with the references and your cell phone number however, "C" did something with it. Anyway, I would love to work with you starting in January if you are still interested. I am working on getting someone to bring "C" home every M,W,Fr so you don't have to install and uninstall car seats every day. I will let you know the progress. I would be willing to pay the $10 an hour plus my side of the taxes, which is almost 8% so I would really be paying you 10.77 per hour. If you would like me to withold your taxes as well, I will be glad to, but it is entirely up to you. Looking forward to hearing from you and have a great Christmas.
"S"
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What is your relationship with Ashley, and how do you know all this? This sounds like a slanderous rant by someone with a personal issue with this Ashley.
ReplyDeleteyeah. i dont know about this. i think i have read this on CL too. And I bet if "Ashley" responds on CL, you flag her post so she can't have her say. What did she do? Steal your man????
ReplyDeleteYOU CANNOT TAKE SOMEONE'S CHILD TO THE ER ROOM OR HOSPITAL OR EVEN DOCTOR WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhy is it so hard to believe that there are incompetent nannies out there that parents might warn other employers about? Are you going to question every post on this blog? I bet the "personal issue" the poster has is that s/he cares about kids.
ReplyDeletetrue dat. poster has her say and other person can post back. a comment to examine here is why she was fired after 2 days and how the person knows. maybe she is like a maid in the town. a maid ratted me out once. then i went for another interview and that maid worked there 4 hours a week. she opened the door for me. maids know lots. well not as much as nannies.
ReplyDelete1201, don't be cheeky. It's rude to post in caps. As for the nanny taking the child to the ER without parental consent, I agree. For minor issus. But if it were a real emergency, she should have some form of permision slip with contact info to give the ER. It's hard to believe any ER would take in a child w/o a parent present. Well, unless it were a life or death situation.
ReplyDeleteo.k. I know all this b/c I am a nanny in the area, and let's face it...nanny's talk. I don't have anything personal against Ashley...I'm looking to protect other children...and the nanny profession in general! I'm sick and tired of reading headlines where nannies do stupid and/or criminal things! I'm proud of my profession, and I don't want people like Ashley giving us nannies a bad name.
ReplyDeleteAs for the E.R. visit...Ashley was the one who was sick. She was hooked up to an iv the whole time. The nurses assumed the kid was hers so there wasn't any issues about permission slips and whatnot. Why would Ashley feel the need to work when she was sick enough to be in the E.R.? She wants the money! Any other nanny would have called the parents and said she was sick!
Finally, I hope that this post stays anon. because if Ashley finds out who I am she is just the type of person who will probably try to sue me...or key my car...or some other immature, vindictive thing. That's what I get for trying to warn other families, and give the nanny profession a good name!
good for you..keep the children in mind....well done thank you
ReplyDeleteI hope she does sue you. I'm so tired of people slandering people with mere hearsay.
ReplyDeleteI myself was unfairly slandered in my own town from the people I last nannied for. The mother had a personal problem with me for some reason unknown to me and told outright lies about me to people in my community. Luckily I found out about them before I used them as a reference, and since my other many references stand on their own I was not seriously effected by it.
3:09 what did you do to them?? really, if you had been a good employee they would have no reson to say anything negative about you.
ReplyDeleteokay 551, learn to smell and then get back to me. There are shitty employers out there who scheme and malign their former employees just because they dared to leave and get another job. There are scheming nannies out there too. To attach some sort of significance to the employer status is STUPID.
ReplyDelete5:51 Just as there are bad nannies, there are also bad employers. I know of a case where a nanny who was being taken advantage of quit the job, giving reasonable notice, and the employer, angry at being inconvenienced by having to find a new nanny, was very vindictive, and bad mouthed the nanny.
ReplyDeleteThe second family that Ashley worked for (the job she was fired from after only two days) was served court papers yesterday. Ashley is taking them to small claims court in Wake County, saying they owe her over $1000. Keep in mind that just last Thurs. she was in court with the first family in Durham Co. trying to get over $500. The judge in Durham Co. awarded her nothing, and told her she was, "too immature to be a nanny." He said that in reference to taking the child to the E.R. This is the second family that Ashley is trying to sue in two weeks. Do you really think it's a case of "bad employers?" No, it is that Ashley is greedy for money. I have first hand info. Believe what you will, but don't hire Ashley unless you want to wind up in court.
ReplyDeleteyou people should be ashamed of yourselves. ashley has kept my children on and off for 6 years now. i have never had any problems with her. she has always done everything i have asked of her and i know my children are in good hands. i think you people just wanted to get out of a contract the easy way.
ReplyDeleteThis whole thing sounds like a rant. Posts like this are gross. There is no accountability. This person says, I'm just a nanny in the area that talks with other nannies. Heresay as someone else posted. And a lot of the information I read on here and CL is questionable. Like if she was so terrible, why was she employed for like 3 months. And everything is inflammatory. Like she was fired after 2 days because she was such a terrible nanny...but why? Something about this is fishy, and it really sounds more vindictive than protective.
ReplyDeleteAs much as they are questionable, warnings about Ashley have appeared on other public forums well before appearing here. I have been told that when she, "Ashley" attempts to respond and explain what transpired, her post has been flagged and removed-denying her the ability to defend or explain her actions. On this blog, we allow individuals the opportunity to provide a permanent answer and standing response to any allegation. If you have further questions, please contact me directly at isawyournanny@cooltoad.com
ReplyDeletei am tired of all this controversy going on about me being a horrible nanny and just randomly sueing people for money. i'm sueing because i had a contract stating they had to give me a 30 days notice and if they decided to let me go before the 30 days was up, they agreed to pay me for the remainder of the 30 days. they signed the contract. they owe me money. if anyone wants to see all of the emails you are more then welcome to contact me.
ReplyDeleteAshley,
ReplyDeletePlease contact me directly. Your side of the story should be told (and not in the comments section).
just a fair warning, going out of your way to badmouth someone you dont know isnt really going to go well for you.
ReplyDeleteit also makes you look rather stupid to post things such as she is childish, shes not going out of her way to post this crap. oh, and i find it HILARIOUS that one nanny saying "The girl will do anything but work an honest job to get money" about another nanny... hahahaha
go get a real job yourself, and put your child in daycare. stop going out of your way to usurp others jobs.
its funny how ashley posts something on CL and you flag it... so yours is apparently the only opinion that matters... get over yourself wench
ive been around ashley through all of these families she's dealt with, and honestly, these people (the families)are nuts. not letting your kid watch tv, not feeding them meat... those are wierd beliefs in my opinion, and potentially damaging to a child anyhow.
saying she stole the reference sheet... holy... you're a few sandwhichs short of a picnic if you ask me...
it really irritates me that you allow such slander to be posted, it is afterall illegal to do so.
~JLR
i think the point was that ashley can't get a word in edgewise on CL because her attempts get flagged. No one can take this off and the slanderer can be exposed for what she is. I encourage anyone who knows Ashley to write in and attach comment. I was a nanny for three years. When I left that live in position to get a live out job because I had a boyfriend and wanted to have my own space, my previous employer badmouthed me to everyone. She spread a rumor that I stole jewelry from her. It took 2 years but I took her to court and received a generous judgment. The Judge took pity on me just trying to make a living and was none to pleased that some rich woman tried to prevent me from doing that! I don't know where you are, but it is illegal for a previous employer to say negative things about you! Especially if they are not true!
ReplyDeleteoh I thought you meant she took the child in to the ER as in took the child to be treated at the ER.
ReplyDeleteJLR-Are you actually saying that being a nanny is not a real job? I am a nanny with a teaching degree. After teaching for a year I CHOOSE to be a nanny instead because I enjoy it more and it makes me happy. I also make more money as a nanny than I did as a teacher. I raise someone else's children for them. I do not understand how this is not an honest job? Let me guess, you sit in a cubicle everyday staring at a computer screen while your children sit in an overcrowded daycare being deprived of attention?
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@ 5:52 you couldn't be any further from the truth, haha. And nope, I wasn't saying that being a nanny isn't a real profession myself, I was going along with what Ashley's secretive attacker had started which was "The girl will do anything but work an honest job to get money." I was just stating that I find it ironic that a person of the same profession is downing her choice of work. If you stick around these boards you'll see that I'm very sarcastic, if you couldn't tell already.
ReplyDelete~JLR
Look at the facts people. Ashely took someone else's child to the E.R. without contacting them. She was sick, not the child. Ashley was fired because of that, and then took those parents to court because they, "broke the contract." I'm sorry, but she broke the contract first by taking the child to the E.R.! The judge sided with the parents, NOT Ashley. Then, two weeks later Ashley is going to court again with a different set of parents for reasons unknown. All I'm saying is the facts seem to say that Ashley is the one with the problem. I wouldn't hire her because she seems to find something wrong with the parents she works for, and then tries to sue them. What a pain in the butt! Why would anyone hire an employee who is going to first, make bad decisions (the E.R. trip), and second, try to sue them?!
ReplyDeleteTo the person who is sick of reading "slanderous crap"...stop getting on this site! No one is forcing you to read, "I saw your nanny." Stop complaining.
ReplyDeleteTo Ashley: A household employee, i.e. a nanny, can be fired for just about any reason: you didn't care for their child the way they wanted, you didn't make their bed the way they wanted, etc. Once the employee is fired it is considered that the employee broke the contract and does not receive any pay for the days after being fired. You are wasting your time going to court unless you can prove that your employers fired you because of racial or religious discrimination.
JLR,
ReplyDeleteAre you threatening me?
JLR,
ReplyDeleteWho are you, the boyfriend? You should be careful, too. You are in medical school, and as a doctor you have to uphold certain ethical standards. Ashley could very well hurt your career.
I posted an ad on Craig's list for a nanny. Ashley emailed me this story directly. Here is Ashley's version of the ER incident. I did not edit anything she wrote. I decided after reading this not to interview her. I believe Ashley was trying to defend herself, but her explanation only made me better understand why the parents let her go. You decide for yourself whether you would hire her.
ReplyDelete"I notified the family that I was not feeling well and felt like I was catching the same thing I had before on 12/5 when I showed up for work. After about an hour and a half of being at work, I started feeling worse. I attempted to contact the mother at her office. I got no answer. I also called my boyfriend and left him a message because he was in school letting him know that I was not feeling well and was going to the hospital. I decided I should go to the hospital again, in hopes that I would be in and out within an hour with medication like the previous time. I got the child and went to the hospital. I was immediately taken back to lay down and put on IV because my vitals were abnormal. I asked the attending nurse multiple times to get me a phone in my room so that I could contact the childs parents because my cell phone had no service in the hospital, and it was not allowing me to view my contacts either. I remained in the hospital for about 2 hours, the child had books to read, as well as food to eat. My boyfriend showed up around 12:30. He helped me take care of the child, because I had decided that the parents would not like it if I let him take the child to their house and watch him, even though the parents knew my boyfriend and had met him multiple times. The child took a nap that afternoon. It was also verified by the hospital staff that the child had been fed, was given books to read and was properly looked after. I got out of the hospital around 3:30 and was greeted by the father as I was walking out of the door. He snatched his child from my boyfriends arms and again flipped out saying that he had been trying to call me and wasn't able to get me and had been calling around to hospitals because I was not at home. He had come home early quite often in the past and me and the child were out at the park or the mall. He did not react the same way as he normally does. He stated that I had made that day about me, and not about his child, and questioned me about how I had took care of him and if he was fed and if he napped, etc. He told me to meet him at his house directly after I left the hospital. I went to the families house and was basically chewed out by the mother and father because they thought since I was in the hospital that there was no possible way I could have taken care of their child. They also said that I endangered their child by bringing him to the ER with me. The family told me that they would no longer need me until the 12/22, that they would only honor the contract until 12/15 because of the hospital incident."
JLR is not my boyfriend, for future references.
ReplyDeletei did not email ANYONE my story. i posted it on CL and it was flagged. so don't lie, get your story straight. i do admit that i did not make enough attempts to contact the parents, and i understand they were worried about their child. any parent would be. the parents kept employing me even after the hospital incidient, if they thought their child was in danger they should have contacted the police and fired me immediatly, however they did not, they even emailed my boyfriend after the hospital thing asking him what to get me for my birthday, and they got me a present.. getting someone who 'endangered' their child a present, doesnt make much sense if you ask me. i think they were just fishing around for reasons to let me go because they had another nanny. parents cant just go around terminating peoples employment because they didnt make the kids bed a certain way(etc), thats just ridiculous. that would be like a professional office worker, who didnt put the papers in complete alphabetical order one day and got fired for it.
ReplyDeletethis is slander and libel and i am letting everyone know that this needs to stop or i will take futher action immediatley.
ashley
This whole anonymous thing is annoying, I have no clue as to who is who, why not sign with some initials so I know who to address...
ReplyDelete@ Anonymous poseter number 8657675, did I say something threatening? b/c I dont think I did... and nope, I'm not the boyfriend, not in med school, and I have no code of ethics to worry about.
Just so you know, you're posting a lot of personal information about people, and that can be very dangerous to these people you're taking stabs at, the internet breeds many a stalker, so maybe censor yourself about going into people professions and names and such.
JLR
okay, so here is the deal. S did have a right to fire Ashley. She said she could continue to work for a month to keep in line with the notice she was required by contract to provide to Ashley. (However here I just must interject that if you have made a mistake in making a bad hire, cut your losses and pay them off to get out of your life). But Ashley never mistreated any child. She never endangered any child. She made a questionable decision regarding going to the emergency room with the child in tow. Because she was given a gift following that experience and because her boyfriend received a thank you, everything seemed fine. What this sounds like here is that some bug got in "S"'s ear and tried to make sure that Ashley was fired. Is that the same bug that is bashing Ashley all over Craigs List? I am all for parents warning other parents about bad nannies. Especially if they hurt or endanger the children. Maybe even if they steal! But whatever you think of what Ashley did, she certainly doesn't deserve to be trashed on CL without a way of defending herself!
ReplyDeleteMy guessing is Ashley must be really attractive and someone is mighty jealous of her.
Back of ASHLEY.
ashley,
ReplyDeleteyou need to set up your own blog and print every one of your emails from your boss.
the way the world works, people are more likely to believe the employer than the nanny. or more likely to believe the cop than the criminal.
Print EVERY bit of email she sent you. If she thinks she can bash you across the web, she needs a dose of her own medicine. Or she can come on here right now and apologize and say she handled this wrong.
ps she sounds like a total tight ass. (your former boss)
ReplyDeleteI don't know Ashley, but I know the parents she took to court. First, they had every right to fire her when she took their child to the E.R. She did not try either cell phone number, the father's pager, or the father's office number. She claims she tried to call the mother's office once, but she did not even leave a voice mail message before going to the E.R.! When the father came home at the end of the day it was obvious that Ashley and his child had not been home all day, and he was scared. He tried to call Ashley and got no answer. He called the E.R. and found out that his child was there with Ashley, but they wouldn't release any information b/c of patient confidentiality. From that day forth she was considered fired. She was under no circumstances to be alone with the child. They only agreed to let her stay until 12/15 because they didn't want to yank her out of the child's life unexpectedly. They thought that maybe the child had some bond with Ashley, and it would be best for the child to let Ashley be around for a transition period to the new nanny. Ashley would be paid for the transition days, and they even gave her a birthday gift because they are decent people. They do not agree with what she did, and they explicitly told the new nanny that she was not to be alone with the child for any reason. The child formed a bond with the new nanny very quickly. It became painfully obvious that Ashley's presence was not needed for the child's sake. Ashley spent one day alone with the new nanny and the child. On this day she admitted some disturbing things to the nanny, which the nanny then told the parents. The next morning Ashley sent the parents an email saying that, "she didn't think she needed to come in because the child was already bonded to the new nanny." The parents took that as a resignation letter, and that letter, combined with the disturbing information they received from the new nanny was enough for them to ask her not to come back. Ashley then sued them for the days she had left, and was awarded nothing.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what the story is with the second people she is trying to sue?
I know that the parents are very happy with their new nanny, and their new nanny is very happy with them. So no one is all evil here...Ashley and these particular parents were a bad fit. And when Ashley made a bad decision instead of apologizing to the parents she told them that they were "freaks," and took them to court. They had a bad experience with her and wanted to warn other people about it.
so trying to wreck her reputation publicly is the parent's form of revenge? Or is it the new nanny acting as the parent's evil minion? Either way the parents should expect to go back to court and if they allowed, encouraged or put the new nanny up to any shennanigans against Ashley, they need to get ready to write a might big check.
ReplyDeleteYou would think if the parents were REALLY happy with the new nanny, they would just leave Ashley alone!
is there a long line of nannies in durham chomping at the bit to work for $10. an hour? $10.80 on the books????? INSANE
ReplyDeleteI am one of Ashley's former employers. One of my friends directed me to this blog and told me that I needed to read it. I just read the string, and I want to say for the record that I did not post the blog at 1:55 nor do I know who did. The person claimed to know me, but I have asked anyone who knew the details of our situation, and they assured me they did not post the blog.
ReplyDeleteI gave Ashley a birthday gift because I do not have ill will toward her. I just disagree with her decision to take our child with her to the ER. As far as I am concerned, I was done with Ashley the minute I walked out of the courtroom. I hope to that this whole string will stop.
I am the current nanny. The parents didn't put me up to anything, and I have not posted about Ashley. I just want to stay out of this whole thing.
ReplyDeleteI am the person who posted as knowing the parents. They did not put me up to it. I am another nanny in the area who has heard the story and kept up with the situation. I only know the parents because I've been introduced to the dad through the current nanny. The parents didn't tell me any of the stuff personally. Sorry, I didn't mean to give anyone a bad name. I just think that it was wrong for Ashley to take them to court, and to take the kid to the E.R. I wish that nannies didn't do stuff like that because it makes the rest of us look bad. I now realize that me posting on here and talking about Ashley makes nannies look bad, too. So I owe Ashley an apology.
ReplyDeleteJ.
Honestly, the whole ER story sounds kinda fishy to me. If I were so sick that I needed to go to the ER, I'd make every attempt to contact the parents and leave messages on their cell phones work phones and leave a note at home. Although, if the child was really taken care of at the ER, it dosen't sound so horrible. The whole thing is strange.....
ReplyDelete::cough:: disable anonymous posting, it might eliminate some of the needless random drama in this forum thread...
ReplyDeletedisable anonymous posting? why? These people have gone on other forums and outed "Ashley" anonymously! Maybe they should come on here and APOLOGIZE for what they did and let her go on her own way. And cease and desist posting on Craigs List. In fact I would advise the following,
ReplyDelete"Regarding the Nanny Ashley you were previously warned against. It was unfair of me to post my biased and one sided judgment of her on a public forum. Obviously, the only reason I did such a thing was to prevent Ashley from procuring gainful employment. I wish her and any family that hires her the very best of luck"
PS Obviously you planned to keep her on because you thought she had formed a bond with your child. So it doesn't sound like she could be all that bad. There are a lot of horror stories out there. I really think you should only go out of your way to warn people about a bad nanny if she has done something that caused harm to a child! Otherwise, limit your opinions to what you tell the individual people who call you for a reference.
Let the girl have some peace already!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteLet's say I know a woman who is a nanny. I don't like her, for personal reasons. I describe her and her charges and make up a story here about her being abusive, when it's not true. The parents of her charges find this blog and see the description. They fire their nanny. Needlessly.
This is not a credible source. If you're concerned with the children, there are much more productive ways are dealing with it. This blog is nothing short of a catty gossip page.
4:02 PM
except that this blog is one of many places her previous employer and the new nanny went to smear Ashley's name. So now this blog stands as a corrected record to Ashley's good name! As opposed to CL where the new nanny would have her post deleted every time Ashley tried to respond.
ReplyDeleteBesides if the parents were really that happy, they would have just gone on with their life. Not used the nanny as an evil minion to stop ashley from getting a job.
catty gossip. maybe. but not in this case.
Team Ashley!
I also know Ashley personally. I have known her since she was 4. I think this whole blog think is immature and stupid! She made a honest mistake. Why make judgments? What is the person who started this whole thing gaining from trying to ruin someone's reputation? Let the girl have some peace. She is like anyone else trying to make money. It's her business if she wants to sue. It is the employers fault that they did not add the comment about being satisfied. Plus, they kept her on. Also, to the people who have negative things to say, how would you feel if someone had a bad opinion of you and put it all over the internet. Everyone has opinions!
ReplyDeleteTEAM ASHLEY!
ReplyDeleteThe N.C. Court of Appeals defines libel per se, as "a publication which, when considered alone without explanatory circumstances: (1) charges that a person has committed an infamous crime; (2) charges a person with having an infectious disease; (3) tends to impeach a person in that person's trade or profession; or (4) otherwise tends to subject one to ridicule, contempt or disgrace." Phillips v. Winston-Salem/Forsyth Co. Bd. of Educ., 117 N.C. App. 274, 450 S.E.2d 753, 756 (1994), cited in Gaunt v. Pittaway, 353 N.C. 371, 547 S.E.2d 660 (2000); cited in Aycock v. Padgett, 134 N.C. App. 164, 516 S.E.2d 907.
ReplyDeleteFor a private citizen to prove libel, he must prove six things beyond a preponderance: (1) defamation; (2) falsity; (3) third-party recognition; (4) publication; (5) injury or damage; (6) fault. Defamation, falsity, third party recognition after publication, and injury are the standards as listed in Tyson v. L'Eggs Products, Inc., 84 N.C.App. 1, 351 S.E.2d 834 (1987). Fault is required because of Walters v. Sanford Herald, Inc., 31 N.C.App. 233, 228 S.E.2d 766 (1976).
A plaintiff could face these defenses: (1) the tolling of N.C.'s one-year statute of limitations on defamation; (2) the claim that defendant's statements were true; (3) the claim that the statements were fair reporting and thus a qualified privilege; (4) the claim that the statements were fair comment and criticism; (5) the claim that the statements were opinion and thus protected by the First Amendment of the federal constitution and by Article I, § 14, of N.C.'s constitution.
Side note:
Under Keeton v. Hustler Magazine, Inc., 465 U.S. 770 (1984), the First Amendment opinion defense protects a defendant who can claim that the statements were hyperbole, exaggeration, and statements that no one would believe. Whether a man is a "jerk" is an opinion. If a person is not trained in psychiatry, whether he is unstable is an opinion.
I am tired of seeing Ashley trashed on every parenting and childcare sight. I am glad there is a place where people who know her can come to her defense. The ER story is one you should let Ashley tell you for yourself if you are planning to hire her. The thought that going to the ER is in anyway a fun thing for a nanny is stupid! Also the argument that Ashley didn't want her employers to know she was in the ER makes no sense. I believe that Ashley did attempt to contact them. However, the worst case scenario is that if she did not, it was only to spare her employer- who bitched about the complexity and stress of her job- any hassle or inconvenience.
ReplyDeleteI think we can end this now. Apologize to Ashley now.
14-47 Libel or Slander
Having read the above legals speak, I must state that defamation law is a mess! The difference between per se and per quod is also a mess – a mess that doesn't make much difference to your plans, unless you're just trying to win a moral victory in court. Good luck! The last person on earth who should ever get away with libel or slander is a former employer. You may need to contact an employment lawyer in your state.
ReplyDeleteThanks to this blog for ending the trashing of Ashley and thanks to all of the great people who voices their support of Ashley!
ReplyDeletere: the email post by ashley -- there is no "aim.com" for email.
ReplyDelete"AIM® Mail, the best Web-based e-mail
ReplyDeletebrought to you by AOL" it exists. apparently not in your parallel universe however.
I previously connected with Ashley through her aim email address. Ashley forwarded me email correspondence between her employer and herself. Although I did not print them, although the emails do seem to support Ashley's description of events.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, I think it's just wrong to take a child to the ER without trying to contact their parents. Besides, it's not the child that needed to go to the ER but the nanny! What was wrong with the nanny so bad that she had to go to the ER? The fact of the matter is that she did not think about the well being of the child that she was taking care of! And on top of that she sues parents that fire her! What's that all about? How may parents has she sued now 3? 4? 5? 100? Hmm, I would definately not hire her and yes this is my personal opinion.
ReplyDeleteI love your all Bold comments. This is a decision to make if Ashley is on your doorstep asking you to hire her. No one has accused her of doing anything wrong to a child! Ever. Maybe she made a bad decision regarding going to the ER with the child. (But wouldn't it have been equally bad to leave the child with someone else?). I don't know Ashley. I don't even live on the East Coast. I am just saying to slander someone because of this is ludicrous. Sounds like someone has an axe to grind. My sympathy to Ashley. Besides which, if Ashley did not win the lawsuit against the parents, why are the parents SO pissed off? Something does not add up here.
ReplyDeleteI suppose taking a perfectly healthy child to the ER is a field trip? Is that child not going to be exposed to sickness? My sympathy to the child that had to go through that...
ReplyDeletePS: I LIKE BOLD!
I dont know the situation that caused Ashley to take the child with her to the ER. Ashley never said what was wrong with her, did she? She did say that both parents worked away from the home. You in all your bold glory do not come off at all impartial. You obviously have a vested interest in this dispute and will not cease your attacks against her. I am sure that exposing a child to an ER is less than desirable, but I can think of far worse. I am not defending her choice, I just think it is not a big enough deal to warrant you trying to slander her name. Are you the new nanny? Maybe the child still asks for Ashley and you hate that? WTF is wrong with you? Get help.
ReplyDeleteI just want to go on record AGAIN, as the new nanny saying I AM NOT posting this stuff. I am sorry that this blog continues to be an issue. I even gave Ashley numerous people to contact, and suggestions for places to look to help her get a job. So please, leave me out of your slander!
ReplyDeleteas far as i've read, no one has slandered you (@the new nanny, who i really dont believe) read into it... the laws have been linked...
ReplyDeleteAs the person who posted the origional blog, boy am I sorry! I did not post to slander Ashley. I saw a nanny who did something that I felt was out of line so I posted. I have read lots of other blogs on here where nannies have been sighted as doing more minor things than Ashley did, and no one accused their posters of slander. I thought that was the point of this blog...to post when you see a nanny who acts inappropriately in hopes that parents will read it and take action. Ashley, if you would have admitted that you made a mistake in judgement when you took the kid to the E.R. it would have been one thing. But you defended your actions all the way to the point of suing the parents, and that is wrong. At the time I felt it deserved a post. I did not post about you on any other sights as I have been accused of. Only this one where you have the chance to defend yourself. And still, you do not admit that you were wrong to take the kid to the E.R. I wish I could erase this post and make all this go away. I have spoken to my lawyer, and you can not sue me for posting even if you find out who I am so I am not worried about that. I am sorry for the emotional turmoil I have caused you, however. I really do want this blog to go away and for us all to just move on with our lives.
ReplyDeleteimaginary lawyer, haha... you better find a better one who knows what they are talking about... and it would be fairly easy to find out who you are, im sure the host has an IP tracker when you make the anonymous posts. And you cant make things like this go away, maybe you should research things more before making actions like this one... i take your actions as an attempt to ruin someones life... making it almost impposible for her to find a job, which makes it hard to make car payents, phone payments or pretty much any of her bills... if you were not the parent, or the nanny involved, you shouldnt even open your mouth to begin with, you are a drama queen and you should /wrists.
ReplyDeleteThe person who started all of this, you should be ashamed of yourself. Why was this any of your business? Are you the child's parent's? If not why is it your concern? You say you saw Ashley doing something wrong, what did you see her do wrong, and WHEN did you see her do it? Are you a gossiper? And as for your information, Ashley went to the ER because she had symptoms of the strep throat for the 2nd time in which I think she caught from the child she was taking care of. Also, as for admitting she made a mistake by taking the child to the ER, she admitted that to the parent at court, and also in the letter that was on craigslist, which was deleted shortly after it was posted, so no one had the chance to read it. As for your information you can be sued for slander such as this, says my dad who is a judge in Harnett County. If you are apologizing and want this to stop, why did you start this in the first place?
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Annette
Yes we are all ashamed here Mama Ashley. Glad you came to the rescue of your daughter. Sorry, we did not realize she was 12!
ReplyDeleteYes we are all ashamed here Mama Ashley. Glad you came to the rescue of your daughter. Sorry, we did not realize she was 12!
ReplyDeleteI don't know a thing about Ashley. But based on the tone of the person who continues to bash her, even calling out her mom, I have to wonder what Ashley did to this person? Why is this person so mad at Ashley? Why can't this person let it go? Your stupid comment was not worth posting once, let alone twice. To be honest, I don't give a rat's ass about what Ashley did or did not do- but YOU I think YOU need help. God help the next person who pisses you off.
ReplyDeleteOh no dear I have not come to my daughters rescue. I admitted that Ashley did wrong and she did too. My comment was only to the person who stated the first comment and started all of this.Ashley is grown and can fight her on battles in life now but like any mother I am concerned.Why do you still contiue to bad mouth Ashley or to leave these smart comments? If Ashley did something to you I think you need to take that up with her in person instead of being such a WUS behind this computer........and if any comments to me look my number up in the book and we will discuss whatever you want at any time. Just a message to people who like to gossip and talk bad about other people. I was tought as a child in church that it was wrong and god did not like when his childern did this. So think about this the next time you are tempted.Psalm 15:3 59:4 59:12 Provrbs 17:4
ReplyDeleteannette, i\'m sorry i have been following this thread for quite some time and have to chime in now. did you call that person a WUS, then quote a bible verse in the very next sentence? seems very hypocrytical to me. have you been to church lately?
ReplyDeleteI have to say that taking the child to the ER with her is better than staying home and potentially making the child sick. And let's think about this...what if it was life-threatening and she ended up passing out, became violently ill, etc? Then she'd be a bad nanny for not taking care of herself! Duh! If my nanny was watching my children and she felt sick enough to go to the hospital, I would be thankful she didn't jeapordize my children by staying home with them. You won't get that sick from going to the hospital. You people act like you'll get the black plague from going to the ER!!!
ReplyDeleteGrow up, whoever you are, that posted to begin with. Stay off of CL because it's people like you who make it impossible to try to find somebody worth hiring. I'd never hire someone who trash-talked someone else in front of my children or to whoever will listen!
Ashley:
I hope you find a good family who will treat you with respect and be fair. I also hope you learn from this that you have to be careful about who you work for. If the people seem a little weird or rub you the wrong way in ANY way, DON'T work for them. There are plenty of people out there who are normal and understanding and who would rather you went to the ER with the child than come home and find you very sick! Don't worry about what people are saying. I firmly believe in Karma and one day, they'll get theirs, too! It may not be with a job...maybe their engine will blow in their car when they are sick from both ends and are trying to get to the Dr.! LOL
--Mom of 2 and a former nanny
You do realise this post is like 9 months old?
ReplyDelete11:58, you bring up a good point, which is that there are no dates shown on comments, only on the original post, and if there could be dates as well as times indicated w/the comments, this board would be a bit easier to follow. JD, is that feasible?
ReplyDeleteAlso, a bit OT but I've lost my link for the badmama blog, and when I typed in what I thought it was, it brought up a porn site! Anyone got it/
hahahah thanks "mom of 2 and a former nanny".
ReplyDeleteyeah there are some weird... weird weird weird families out there, I think I always seem to find them.
much love,
ashley
Let it be a lesson learned for everybody. The next time you decide to hire a new nanny, try doing a criminal background check online. There are several online services that can provide you with an accurate criminal background record of a person.
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