tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post4595858971021309783..comments2024-03-19T03:27:24.068-04:00Comments on I SAW YOUR NANNY: Borders Bookstore - W North Ave, ChicagoLeigh Raymerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18210572527823459842noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-80440888817970151592011-05-08T15:36:05.259-04:002011-05-08T15:36:05.259-04:00Mrs. Billy Lamar,
No, Tales and I are not the sam...Mrs. Billy Lamar,<br /><br />No, Tales and I are not the same person. If you scroll down to a recent post DITL from 4/26/11 you will see where we both give our basic (still anonymous) identifying information and suggest others do so do to avoid exactly this kind of confusion.nycmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-88110853564961941532011-05-08T13:32:05.316-04:002011-05-08T13:32:05.316-04:00I do not think that a parent would fire their nann...I do not think that a parent would fire their nanny based on one of the<br />typical bad sightings reported here. However this should prompt them to investigate and to make a decision based on what they find, and I am grateful to ISYN for making this possible. It seems natural that most parents want to believe that their nanny is doing a good job. If you think you are going to get fired because someone takes a picture of you texting in a bookstore, there must be a number of other things that you must be doing wrong.oh wellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-28134413871447617562011-05-08T12:41:19.524-04:002011-05-08T12:41:19.524-04:00Mrs. Billy Lamar,
No, I can promise you... they a...Mrs. Billy Lamar,<br /><br />No, I can promise you... they are not the same person.MaryPoppin'Pillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01493804863551764605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-12918708021911912792011-05-08T03:52:01.672-04:002011-05-08T03:52:01.672-04:00Are Tales and nycmom the same person? The writing ...Are Tales and nycmom the same person? The writing styles and opinions are so in sync. <br /><br />I'm just saying................Mrs. Billy Lamarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-21588330658654831392011-05-07T16:03:02.274-04:002011-05-07T16:03:02.274-04:00Thanks for the compliment MPP! I've emailed yo...Thanks for the compliment MPP! I've emailed you.Tales from the (Nanny)Hoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14266117417206315356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-27110392461128873762011-05-07T07:09:23.916-04:002011-05-07T07:09:23.916-04:00Tales from the (Nanny)Hood,
Thank you for your co...Tales from the (Nanny)Hood,<br /><br />Thank you for your comment at 3:24... I should post it as a permanent link somewhere on the front page!<br /><br />And to nycmom, I really appreciate your sentiments, also.<br /><br />I abhor censorship but something has to be done where Readers feel comfortable enough to post their Sightings without having to worry they will be flamed. I have considered disabling comments but it just doesn't seem feasible. Quite often other Readers are familiar with the area of the Sighting and I want their input. It may piss some people off but I guess the only solution would be to delete comments attacking the OP.<br /><br />I don't mind ISYN being a place where Nannies and Parents can come for advice and camaraderie but really want it to stay with it's original intent and that is to protect the children.MaryPoppin'Pillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01493804863551764605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-5487082967667841132011-05-06T23:00:56.810-04:002011-05-06T23:00:56.810-04:00Mpp, if the storm of "but maybe she was just ...Mpp, if the storm of "but maybe she was just blahdeblah!" is overwhelming, why not simply disable comments on sightings? I know you feel strongly about allowing people to have their say, but I would hope that instead of dumping the site entirely you and Jane might consider elimnating the dogpile nature of sighting posts instead.<br /><br />I know it's easy for me to say, since I don't have any responsibilities WRT the site, but in this case a little commonsense censorship might be the way to go.Tales from the (Nanny)Hoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14266117417206315356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-13375976245800263762011-05-06T22:13:52.366-04:002011-05-06T22:13:52.366-04:00Well said, Tales.
MPP - This is my concern also....Well said, Tales. <br /><br />MPP - This is my concern also. Seems the focus on protecting children has been lost somewhere along the way. I don't have the answer, but I completely understand the sentiment.nycmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-49259737381196450372011-05-06T15:24:24.860-04:002011-05-06T15:24:24.860-04:00With so many nannies here, and a majority of them ...With so many nannies here, and a majority of them seeming to feel the need to leap to the defense of any nanny sighted possibly doing something other than caring properly for their charges, anyone sending in a sighting to be posted needs to have thick skin.<br /><br />I think we all know that it POSSIBLE a nanny on her cell is checking in with the parents, or that a nanny sitting on a park bench while her under 2 charges play is POSSIBLY trying to encourage independence, or that a nanny yelling at her charge is POSSIBLY having a bad day and doesn't mean to be a jerk.<br /><br />So really, we don't have to be reminded of all the POSSIBLE scenarios every time a nanny sighting is posted. We all know the POSSIBILITIES, and we all know that there are truly crummy nannies out there who shouldn't be caring for kids.<br /><br />So ease up people. If you're a nanny, don't post your knee jerk reaction. Think a bit, and consider whether maybe, just maybe, the person who submitted an account of bad nannying might have a point. <br /><br />Of course, if the behavior described in the sighting mirrors YOUR behavior on the job, we do understand the insta-defensive attitude. After all, if you are glued to your cell, ignore toddlers on the playground, or yell regularly at your charges, you'll leap to the defense of a nanny like you. And when you post all sorts of defensive crap, we then know what sort of nanny YOU are.Tales from the (Nanny)Hoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14266117417206315356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-71973628227736922762011-05-06T13:06:24.294-04:002011-05-06T13:06:24.294-04:00Badgering the OP is exactly why most are afraid to...Badgering the OP is exactly why most are afraid to send in a Sighting.<br /><br />The intent of ISYN was to help children that were being neglected or abused and that is starting to fall away. Traffic is higher than it's ever been but if we can't serve it's original purpose then all of this other shit is just fluff. <br /><br />I am not sure how much longer this Blog is going to last...MaryPoppin'Pillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01493804863551764605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-31533439928900408272011-05-06T12:38:12.760-04:002011-05-06T12:38:12.760-04:00I'm so amused at how absolutely retarded most ...I'm so amused at how absolutely retarded most of you are about the law. You're going to sue because someone took your picture? Seriously, how stupid are you?ESQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-41231524240152779592011-05-06T10:15:27.578-04:002011-05-06T10:15:27.578-04:00SO glad I'm not a nanny in Chicago. Apparently...SO glad I'm not a nanny in Chicago. Apparently taking a few texts/calls from my boss, or whomever, will get my picture posted for all to see. BE WARNED CHI-Town nannies...Former Private Investigator turned nanny in on the prowl!NJNannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-63110650850065528652011-05-05T23:32:25.368-04:002011-05-05T23:32:25.368-04:00I wish people would mind their own damn busy and p...I wish people would mind their own damn busy and pay attention unless someone is SERIOUSLY BEING HURT!Blah Blah Blahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-77772003677498533002011-05-05T21:00:33.841-04:002011-05-05T21:00:33.841-04:00Ha, OP is a private investigator! FTW.
Sometimes...Ha, OP is a private investigator! FTW. <br /><br />Sometimes I have to read and respond to texts from my employer while on the job. Rarely I might need to return a personal text while with the kids. I am never really worried that someone might think I am neglecting the children while I do so...because I'm not. I text as necessary, while making sure to keep the kids in my sight and also responding to them if they're talking to me. Non-essential communication can wait until another time (e.g. when the kids are back in the stroller and we're walking home)another nannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-61600504749292401012011-05-05T14:47:07.279-04:002011-05-05T14:47:07.279-04:00I am the original OP that posted this sighting. Wo...I am the original OP that posted this sighting. Wow! Quite the discussion. Let me clarify some things. I have worked as a private investigator and can professionally analyze a behavior/scene quite quickly. I didnt do this lightly and only posted because I was sure of the facts.<br />First, both women were definitely nannies because I asked. Second they were both using their phones the ENTIRE 1/2 HOUR looking down. I had to leave and I can only assume this continued on after my departure. When the toddler in orange tried to interact with her many times she did not stop or look up to talk to him. She would give a rare glance and then sometimes try to answer him while still staring at the phone and texting.<br />The second nanny with the baby was sitting in the corner away from the view of most patrons in store with good reason. I had a hard time getting that photo but the baby is in an uncomfortable position and fidgeting because her legs are straight in front of her and she is bent forward with her chest laying on her legs unable to get herself up out of this position. She had no interaction the entire time. <br />The whole point of them choosing that area was to be able to use the cell phone. It is quiet there & mostly out of sight.<br />If some people are ok with this that is fine. Most people I know are not. If they were both talking/texting their employers over 1/2 hour..... well, lets just say I'll hand in my license. I said from the beginning it was mostly neglect. Nothing to get too riled up about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-38336380978329487102011-05-05T04:05:51.675-04:002011-05-05T04:05:51.675-04:00@Tanya: I have heard the same thing as well at sch...@Tanya: I have heard the same thing as well at school, but am not really sure about laws. It may differ from State to State. On an ethical level, I just couldn't live with myself if I posted a picture of someone I didn't know online just because I "thought" she was ignoring her charge. Unless you know for sure this is indeed a childcare provider, then you have no right to identify her as one. Also, by posting this picture online for such a minor offense, what you did OP could ruin many people's lives. If others in her town see this, she may not be able to get another nanny position and her current family may fire her. She may have a family to support and bills to pay and your actions could cause her a lot of grief. Unless you know for sure that a child is being abused by a nanny, then you have no right to post these pics.<br /><br />By the way, I have seen a lot of "Nanny Cam" footage on the News of nannies doing worse things than this. I have seen nannies throwing children down on the floor, the couch and infants being hit. Yet, in all cases the nannies are never prosecuted because it does not look like a crime has been committed.Taylornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-42187509239378831752011-05-05T02:00:23.857-04:002011-05-05T02:00:23.857-04:00My Professor stressed that in order for a lawsuit ...My Professor stressed that in order for a lawsuit to be successful, the defamatory words need to be specifically related to the person in the picture..they cannot be random.Tanyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-70415259457912966892011-05-05T01:58:56.744-04:002011-05-05T01:58:56.744-04:00You guys are totally missing the point. People on ...You guys are totally missing the point. People on here do not have a problem with posting someone's picture online without permission (though I think it is very unethical to do so....), we have a problem with posting a picture of someone online and then saying derogatory things about them that are just opinions. I spoke to my Business Law Professor tonight about this very same thing and she told us that someone cannot sue just for posting a pic, however if defamatory comments are included with the pic, the person online can sue someone for defamation of character. Remember Katie Holmes just won a lawsuit because Star published a photo of her stating she used drugs. That is the same offense as posting a picture of someone in a public forum claiming they are neglecting a child.Tanyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-33915802504123874532011-05-04T22:04:03.348-04:002011-05-04T22:04:03.348-04:00I'm neither a nanny nor a mom. I just find thi...I'm neither a nanny nor a mom. I just find this site interesting to read. Also, I learn a lot! =]Inoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-92149263538158886122011-05-04T16:56:29.265-04:002011-05-04T16:56:29.265-04:00nycmom,
You bring up a very good point. This site...nycmom,<br /><br />You bring up a very good point. This site was originally meant to alert Parents about bad Nannies. We do not mind that there is a good support system for those that visit this Blog because it may help them to be better Nannies and that still accomplishes our goal of protecting the children... however, we will continue to keep ISYN's original intent and that is to report those caregivers that provide less than adequate supervision for children held in their trust.MaryPoppin'Pillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01493804863551764605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-83243308008766340722011-05-04T14:20:56.524-04:002011-05-04T14:20:56.524-04:00Unicorn,
I did not say it was BAD that the site i...Unicorn,<br /><br />I did not say it was BAD that the site is mostly nannies. I said I simply don't understand why the demographics have shifted that way. There were more moms here years ago, and there were a lot more sitings. It has now become more of a nanny support board, which is fine and not bad, just different than my expectations. I stay out of habit and to learn about things I can do to be a better employer, but there really aren't many employers on here otherwise (though there are a few other parents who are prior nannies).nycmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-14000949056066369242011-05-04T14:03:38.266-04:002011-05-04T14:03:38.266-04:00why is it bad that there are a lot of nannies on h...why is it bad that there are a lot of nannies on here? i feel that there are not enough nanny sites out there that offer SO much feedback and that's why i like this site so much.unicornsparkleprincessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-79878646206614669312011-05-04T09:09:23.687-04:002011-05-04T09:09:23.687-04:00Thanks MPP! I did notice it had not posted, but wa...Thanks MPP! I did notice it had not posted, but was too tired to retype it. <br /><br />Regarding the glitch, after having it happen 2-3 times now, I think this is the cause: When I click "Preview" to read my post before posting (for grammar, etc), then click "Publish Your Comment," it does not post. If I just click "Publish..." directly without previewing, it always posts. Don't know if that helps!nycmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-56929943107526044192011-05-04T02:43:38.367-04:002011-05-04T02:43:38.367-04:00nycmom,
I wish I knew what this glitch was all ab...nycmom,<br /><br />I wish I knew what this glitch was all about... I saw your comment in my mailbox but it didn't post to this thread for some reason. I hope you don't mind my putting it up for you.<br /><br />I appreciate your thoughts on this subject and believe you expressed your opinion much better than I did:<br /><br />nycmom has left a new comment on your post "Borders Bookstore - W North Ave, Chicago":<br /><br />I believe this issue has been addressed by JD and MPP many times and I know I have also researched it. It is not illegal to take someone's photo in public (i.e. not on their own personal property) and post it online. Google maps has numerous photos of people in background pics. You can complain; you can be angry, but you won't win a lawsuit.<br /><br />Secondly, I think the outrage about these postings tends to come from nannies who fear they could be caught in similar situations. I truly never see the nannies that I "know" from years on here - and am confident are good people/caregivers (MissDee, MissMannah, Tales, Jacqui) - complain about these postings.<br /><br />I know this viewpoint will be unpopular given that for reasons I still don't fully understand this site is 95% nannies, but I can't imagine why you would personally feel threatened by this if you don't do it. The potential good for the child outweighs the possibility that a nanny might need to discuss this issue with their employer. I guarantee if my nanny were posted on here with one of these pics, I would not fire her. I would discuss it and take it as one piece of information in the whole picture of her employment.<br /><br />OP did not make any inflammatory accusations. She simply described what she witnessed:<br /><br />"nannies ignored the children and used their cell phones."<br /><br />"8 months old with brown hair, sitting flopped over forward because she cannot sit up unsupported. She was completely ignored for over 1/2 hour while nanny texted/used cell."<br /><br />"boy of approx 2/12 that was running around with nanny barely glancing up when boy is trying to talk to her. Mostly scenes of neglect, but I know I wouldn't pay someone for this."<br /><br />OP is quite clear that this is not one text or one brief call, but a pattern of disinterest/neglect lasting at least 30 minutes. Why not give the employers this information and let them address it?<br /><br />Posted by nycmom to I saw your nanny at May 3, 2011 7:55:00 PM <br /><br />_________________________________<br /><br />As a sidenote about Google Maps:<br /><br />When I looked up my house... I faintly saw my freshly cut grass, my motorcycle in the driveway... and my neighbor sitting in a lawn chair in the front yard, lol.MaryPoppin'Pillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01493804863551764605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-86860986419536156972011-05-04T02:03:46.840-04:002011-05-04T02:03:46.840-04:00Jane and I have gone over this before but for some...Jane and I have gone over this before but for some of you that may not know:<br /><br />The average person is caught on a surveillance camera up to 12 times per day. <br /><br />You are legally allowed to photograph a person in public... and that includes libraries, beaches, parks, etc. <br /><br />You may not however, take a picture of someone when reasonable privacy is expected, ie: a restroom, dressing or changing room, etc.<br /><br />Understand that when an OP sends in a sighting, we are giving them the benefit of the doubt because we were not there. This OP stated she watched these Nannies for a period of time long enough to warrant a complaint.MaryPoppin'Pillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01493804863551764605noreply@blogger.com