tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post3348021979100608497..comments2024-03-19T03:27:24.068-04:00Comments on I SAW YOUR NANNY: Why I Dread Monday....Leigh Raymerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18210572527823459842noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-64546719593028595802009-01-23T12:12:00.000-05:002009-01-23T12:12:00.000-05:00LOL! did you take over my previous position?it's ...LOL! did you take over my previous position?<BR/><BR/>it's not about having a bad attitude or hating the family you work for. it's about being confused how 2 days seem to disrupt an entire household to this magnitude! <BR/><BR/>my employers would even forget to pay their bills after I had categorized their mail! (not one of my job duties)<BR/><BR/>girl, i hope that your patience is long and enduring because chances are this isn't going to change. i understand your need to vent though and it's something only nannies seem to get. hang in there until the next job op comes along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-77585634089126889002009-01-23T10:45:00.000-05:002009-01-23T10:45:00.000-05:00I really love the posts where people are telling t...I really love the posts where people are telling this ppor nanny to just quit or talk it over with the employer. ha!...yeah right! for some people, quitting is just not an option(i know because I was in virtually the same position, but a livein that had no where to go) and sometimes the employers are difficult to deal with. they don't want to hear it and can hire the next illegal who needs a job...some employers deem us as replaceable. it is truly a shame that you are being taken advantage of! I know what that does to your self esteem and your stress levels! please don't judge unless you've been in a similar circumstance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-82504349353872282292008-02-09T08:35:00.000-05:002008-02-09T08:35:00.000-05:00This is odd. I thought I was the only Vi. I am, ho...This is odd. I thought I was the only Vi. I am, however not the VI from 701 AM.<BR/><BR/>What I wanted to add to this off tangent discussion is to correct Visionary's comment. And I have to take the "God is a Republican" bumper sticker off my car to do this. If Baraq wins, it isn't because of the AA population of the US, it's because of his mother's home state and old the people in the midwest who want to elect their hometown hero.<BR/>.<BR/><BR/>Visionary said, <BR/>Just think, by 2009 we may have a Black president, a female vice president a nanny union and a little justice in the world!<BR/>People, get ready!<BR/><BR/>I say,<BR/>Just think, FOR 2009 we may have a FEMALE president, a black vice president. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>And technically, whether he is VP or President, he will be the nation's first 1/2 black president.<BR/><BR/>Damn John McCain for soiling our party with his bullshit rhetoric and plastic wife. You all know he left the wife who waited for him to return from war when she had cancer, right?<BR/><BR/>John McCain is Larry Flynt... in a better suit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-44067329208135069052008-02-09T07:01:00.000-05:002008-02-09T07:01:00.000-05:004:35 anonymous = chickenshit,calimom has just as m...4:35 anonymous = chickenshit,<BR/>calimom has just as much right to be here as YOU do! why hide behind a veil? are you too afraid for someone to address you personally?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-42766202116264266522008-02-09T04:47:00.000-05:002008-02-09T04:47:00.000-05:00I know why so many of you are afraid of a nanny un...I know why so many of you are afraid of a nanny union---you're afraid that YOU as employers will have to abide by certain legalities, certain rules of decorum, certain contracts--and this freaks you out! We nannies have to undergo a thorough screening when we contract through an agency for employment--maybe you employers should have to do the same (a psychological/financial screening seems especially important!). Maybe your vast pool of illegal "slave" nannies will be depleted and you'll be forced to behave decently and follow employer tax laws if you want to hire someone to care for your kids, etc--that really scares you, huh? No more paying some illegal nanny (under the table) fresh from another country to clean, cook, provide childcare, work outrageous hours and bow to your every selfish whim! No more working your nanny to the bone for years and then dumping her without health insurance, severance or retirement $.<BR/>Say goodbye to the "good old days", ladies! <BR/>Just think, by 2009 we may have a Black president, a female vice president a nanny union and a little justice in the world!<BR/>People, get ready!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-68438563866315522042008-02-09T04:37:00.000-05:002008-02-09T04:37:00.000-05:00Yes--to nanny licensing!Yes--to nanny unions!Yes--...Yes--to nanny licensing!<BR/>Yes--to nanny unions!<BR/>Yes--to criminal penalties for the scum who employ illegal nannies and deportation for the illegals who work in childcare!<BR/>Yes--to CHANGE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-28063429315091992802008-02-09T04:35:00.000-05:002008-02-09T04:35:00.000-05:00hey cali mom...since you neither employ a nanny or...hey cali mom...since you neither employ a nanny or work as a nanny, what are you doing weighing in on this forum?<BR/>(just wondering)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-38835558307752918842008-02-08T19:08:00.000-05:002008-02-08T19:08:00.000-05:00I think some of the posters are losing sight that ...I think some of the posters are losing sight that this is a "rant". I think it is great! As a mom due with my second and researching pros and cons of hiring a nanny this is a great reminder of what some nannies can experience and a reminder to be conscientous of their jobs. It's like coming home to find a house your hubby has completely messed up when you left it spotless. I think in people just considered others feelings more there wouldn't be all these strange situations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-17880253142275868352008-01-29T09:38:00.000-05:002008-01-29T09:38:00.000-05:00I agree with the idea of a nanny licensing board. ...I agree with the idea of a nanny licensing board. When my children were young and I used a daycare/pre-school for childcare, my first requirement was that the centers I considered were licensed and accredited. My screening did not of course end there, but I did not even bother investigating those centers that were not licensed. <BR/><BR/>When I switched to nanny care, I would have loved to taken the same approach and restricted my search first to properly licensed caregivers, but that is not an option with nannies in the US. Another option which I did not find in my area was a true nanny service--one where I pay the service and they take care of the benefits, taxes, etc., complexities that come with becoming an employer and send me a well screened, experienced, well trained, qualified caregiver. The services in my area are all employment referral agencies, many of which have very spotty records with BBB. The only true in home childcare service I found was only for temporary and part time sitters, not full time care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-88319767152982499822008-01-29T06:23:00.000-05:002008-01-29T06:23:00.000-05:00MomSounds like a beautiful plan. You need a fishin...Mom<BR/>Sounds like a beautiful plan. You need a fishing license, a drivers license, a business license ....<BR/>why not a 'Nanny license'?<BR/>If I were to hire a Nanny, one that has met all of the requirements to obtain a license, THAT would be the one I'd hire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-16233533426628419712008-01-28T12:13:00.000-05:002008-01-28T12:13:00.000-05:00Just where will you draw the line between "babysit...Just where will you draw the line between "babysitters" and "nannies" in order to enforce the "laws" you set up to govern your nanny union? (BTW, I wasn't aware that choosing to work outside the union in any given occupation was actually a crime.) What about the 15 year old next door who sits with the kids? Is she now a criminal? What if she sits all day everyday during summer break? Is she now a "nanny," subject to your "laws?" I don't see how it could possibly work as a union. Now, a licensing board would probably work very well. If I were a nanny, I would start there. If I were hiring a nanny and such a board existed, I would hire ONLY from their approved list of nannies. I owuld think that might make the best and most qualified nannies stand out form the hoardes and help her earn a better salary. And it would hopefully keep the less qualified from unfairly and unreasonably riding their coattails.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-78282343190246660322008-01-27T20:24:00.000-05:002008-01-27T20:24:00.000-05:007:37, exactly. They will either not hire nannies a...7:37, exactly. They will either not hire nannies at all, thereby creating a larger pool of unemployed nannies, or they will hire cheap ones off the books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-29580788853128437372008-01-27T19:37:00.000-05:002008-01-27T19:37:00.000-05:00all sides make a good argument. and a nanny union ...all sides make a good argument. and a nanny union would be nice, but how would we possibly organize such a thing? and how do we get parents who hire these nannies to do it legally? would they be penalized if they don't hire from the union, or should the nannies be penal;ized if they don't join?<BR/>how do families that aren't rich that have nannies now, afford nannies from a union, which would obviously cost more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-7448986642242922172008-01-27T17:47:00.000-05:002008-01-27T17:47:00.000-05:00Cali momExcellent point. I agree with you. Even wi...Cali mom<BR/>Excellent point. I agree with you. Even with a Nanny Union, it won't stop all of the maltreatment going on.<BR/>The SAME Families that hire illegal immigrants and pay off the books, (and treat their Nannies like second class citizens) will be the SAME Families that will hire the NON-union Nannies.<BR/>I don't see where it will solve the problem for them.<BR/><BR/>The only situation for the Nannies that I see improvement for are the Families that have money and would be willing to CONTINUE to pay top dollar for their (Unionized) Nanny.<BR/><BR/>All the others will still be treated .... well, like crap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-5419820936072374342008-01-27T16:30:00.000-05:002008-01-27T16:30:00.000-05:00Nanny Union, all your hysterical ranting at me is ...Nanny Union, all your hysterical ranting at me is not going to accomplish your goals. You want a union? Great. Make it happen. When your aim is achieved, you can accept my congratulations. I am not a nanny nor do I plan to hire one at any time since my little boy will be my only child and he is growing up quickly, so I'm not "threatened" by anything you are saying.<BR/><BR/>Of course drug use and prostitution cause less damage to society when they are legalized and monitored. Could you have missed the point by a few more miles? Unionizing nannies is not going to solve all your gripes any more than outlawing whatever drug will stop their use. <BR/><BR/>Another goalpost you flew 8 miles around, I agree completely that illegal immigrants should NOT be hired and NO ONE should be paid off the books. But that wasn't what I asked you. IF your nanny union was in existence, would it be illegal for a nanny to work without joining? And would it be illegal for an employer to hire a non-union nanny even if that nanny were a legal resident or U.S. born citizen, and was paid on the books, and paid all required taxes?<BR/><BR/>And if so, where would you get all the money to build all the new prisons for all the employers and non-union nannies? You seem convinced that there just wouldn't be any.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-46168039340719454542008-01-27T16:10:00.000-05:002008-01-27T16:10:00.000-05:00^^^meant to say "four" not "for"^^^meant to say "four" not "for"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-41343776343599852932008-01-27T16:08:00.000-05:002008-01-27T16:08:00.000-05:00LMAO at all you who are so threatened by talk of n...LMAO at all you who are so threatened by talk of nannies organizing, having support groups or unions, asking for better work conditions,etc.<BR/>But I shouldn't really be surprised. This is America, the only "civilized" nation in the world without standard socialized healthcare. We punish people for being poor, for getting ill, for being honest and hardworking. We celebrate the cheaters, liars, morons and the rich (I'd say our current President fits all for of these categories to a tee). So why should it come as any surprise that some of you would fight tooth & nail to avoid any standardization of household workers?<BR/>This country claims it's a democracy. What a fraud! It's a total fascist dictatorship, with the next generation addicted to the internet and the last generation addicted to denial.<BR/>Change is our only hope.<BR/>Wake up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-21682346635133660252008-01-27T15:57:00.000-05:002008-01-27T15:57:00.000-05:00Hey cali mom, since when did you develop such a fo...Hey cali mom, since when did you develop such a foul mouth?<BR/><BR/>And by the way, statistics show that in countries where drugs are legalized and monitored, drug addiction is much LOWER than it is in countries where drugs are illegal. Do your research, please.<BR/> Same with prostitution (when legal and monitored, STD's rates are lower and violent crime against sex-workers is lower. Granted, we'd all like to pretend that nobody will ever do drugs or seek out prostitutes, but the reality is that people DO, so shouldn't it be dealt with openly and legally? <BR/> And we'd all like to pretend that employers will treat and pay their nannies justly and fairly, but the reality is that many DON'T, so shouldn't this issue be dealt with openly and legally (with a union for instance) as well? <BR/> And yes, I think it's a grand idea to incarcerate employers who hire and pay illegal nannies and or pay their nannies under-the-table!! Absolutely. Why shouldn't the law of the land apply to them? <BR/>It really doesn't matter whether or not YOU want, believe in or condone the idea of a nanny union. <BR/> No amount of cursing or whining will stop progress.<BR/>Welcome to the 21st century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-22351437509315557772008-01-27T15:25:00.000-05:002008-01-27T15:25:00.000-05:001:09/11:55, you are letting yourself be shit on an...1:09/11:55, you are letting yourself be shit on and asking for more. You've made your choice so it makes no sense to complain about it, if you are not willing to make the necessary changes. Your employers are assholes, you are not, and they know that you will suck up their shit for all eternity. Best of luck with that.<BR/><BR/>Nanny Union, wake me up when it happens. I didn't say that teachers' unions were bad, I used them as a counter to your fantasy scenario about all children being well educated thanks to a union. That's like saying that there will be no drug addiction once we outlaw drugs. In your scenario, would any person who earns a living by caring for children be arrested and prosecuted for not joining the nanny union? If not, what's the point? There will be *supposedly* good, educated, expensive ones with a union title, and then there will still be the cheaper, and sometimes better ones. So what's the point?<BR/><BR/>Yes, law abiding citizens will follow the law, and the rest of the nannies and nanny employers will continue to skirt it. No union or new law will change that, any more than gun ownership laws have prevented violent criminals or f*cked up teenagers with agendas to carry out from owning guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-41075282209665191562008-01-27T14:54:00.000-05:002008-01-27T14:54:00.000-05:00Let me get this straight---some of these mothers w...Let me get this straight---some of these mothers will pay $600 for anti-wrinkle facial injections, but won't pay top-dollar to the person who takes care of their kids? That's pretty messed up. Hey, I pay my nanny $25 per hour, no problem. If I couldn't afford it, I'd stay home and raise my kids on my own. There are plenty of gazillionaires out there who have more money than God, and want good nannies. There will NEVER be a shortage of nanny jobs, housekeeping jobs, gardener jobs, etc. for those willing to pay. You get what you pay for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-26889032433846226882008-01-27T14:45:00.000-05:002008-01-27T14:45:00.000-05:00cali mom, I'm disappointed in you. You're usually...cali mom, I'm disappointed in you. You're usually the voice of reason around here.<BR/>Nanny unions a "fantasy"? Is that so? Teacher's unions seem to be a negative in your eyes as well. Hmmm...I think I get where you're coming from now.<BR/>But sometimes we have to accept little imperfections in the system in order to create a better situation for a group as a whole. The situation is often dismal,even for qualified well-educated legal nannies here in the States. Organizing a union is really the only option, because unfortunately employers often do NOT pay good nannies properly or give them proper benefits. The IRS is cracking down on household employers this year (smile), so that should help, but there will still be issues only the protection and structure of a union can address.<BR/>Any honest, well-intentioned employer should have NO problem hiring a union nanny. My employer thinks it's a superb idea, in fact. So I guess we all have to learn to accept change. It's just a part of life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-63855728513351725302008-01-27T13:09:00.000-05:002008-01-27T13:09:00.000-05:00i am paid on the books... and on a 50 hour a week ...i am paid on the books... and on a 50 hour a week based salary. so when they're an hour late, i don't get paid extra. its hard because they are NOT the type to sympathize with the "common folk" if they have to stay late from work they don't see that i shouldn't have to. its impossible to talk to them, because they don't think they're doing anything wrong. if i say anything that look at me like i'm being lazy. i mean ever since the child started pre-school... i have 3 hours a day that i'm not "working". so they give me things to do durring that time... but the things i'm supposed to be doing go far beyond what i can accomplish during that time period.<BR/>its not like i haven't tried to say anything but i get brushed off every time. i've even tried just not doing some things asked... then i get yelled at "don't you know that if you don't do this then i have to and that takes away from the quality time i get with my son!"<BR/><BR/>i just do it because her son is so desperate for her attention that i try and free up as much time for them as possible so some of that time may be spent with the boy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-89337091630286882182008-01-27T12:28:00.000-05:002008-01-27T12:28:00.000-05:00As much as you love the boy, you are being abused ...As much as you love the boy, you are being abused and you need to put your foot down. Have a polite talk with the parents, work out some modifications to the arbitrary and seemingly endless list of "duties". Do you have a work agreement? Are you paid on the books? They will take everything they can get from you because you let them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-5043735858536827582008-01-27T11:55:00.000-05:002008-01-27T11:55:00.000-05:00let me just say I FEEL FOR YOU!!! in the 3 years ...let me just say I FEEL FOR YOU!!! in the 3 years that i have been with my family, the chore list as increased from only-child-related things... to going to the post office, doing all the grociery shopping, making dinner for the parents, packing for their weekend trips for them, making their dinners for saturday and sunday (put neatly in tupperware), doing the laundry, buying christmas/birthday presants, taking the kids to school even though the parents literally walk by the school on their way to work at the time they need to be dropped off (would it be so hard to let me sleep in every once in a blue moon) ...the list goes on an on and on... and even though i work 8-6 (yes 10 hours a day) the parents get home late just about every day... and at least by 15 minutes. Sometimes i'll get a call at 6:30 saying "is it okay if we're a little late?" what if it wasn't okay? you're already late! and you haven't even left work! and then they have the nerve to freak out at me when one thing isn't done. like "i've noticed the hamper is pretty full. i'd appreciate it if you took care of that before you leave" WTF!? the only reason i do it is because i love the child... that's it. there are so many days where i just want to let them know what my job description is and refuse to go outside of that... but then what? well i can't risk being fired. for my sake and the sake of their son. i've been his nanny since the day he came home from the hospital.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-23728835331611711322008-01-26T11:30:00.000-05:002008-01-26T11:30:00.000-05:00When I read this it made me laugh. I thought it w...When I read this it made me laugh. I thought it was just written out of typical frustration and meant to be sort of funny. I identified with almost all of them. A LOT of families are like that...especially in the NYC area. <BR/><BR/>It doesn't mean you hate your job. Everybody has frustrations in their job...especially on Mondays. <BR/><BR/>I enjoyed reading it and completely understand where you are coming from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com