tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post2050748624319101748..comments2024-03-19T03:27:24.068-04:00Comments on I SAW YOUR NANNY: Fallout from the ButtrashLeigh Raymerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18210572527823459842noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-89520204500819635642015-06-23T10:56:10.881-04:002015-06-23T10:56:10.881-04:00OP,
so what happened? Did you talk to your MB abou...OP,<br />so what happened? Did you talk to your MB about it?<br />Did you stay with them or did you fins another job?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-14860524713135685632015-05-21T09:16:32.003-04:002015-05-21T09:16:32.003-04:00i forgot to say that the "you feel guilty rem...i forgot to say that the "you feel guilty remark" is not appropriate and downright foolish if you wish to keep your job. But the picture thing is a big societal problem - babysitters and moms have been arrested for taking pics of their kids taking baths. Maybe we need a legal expert to tell us what the new rules areRBTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12236958965651282895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-90218695146072269782015-05-21T08:36:18.897-04:002015-05-21T08:36:18.897-04:00I think everyone is getting too bent out of shape ...I think everyone is getting too bent out of shape over this. As a mom who used to have to travel frequently for work, there is nothing scarier than being hundreds/thousands of miles away when your child has a medical issue. Although I'm not a doctor, I worked in the medical field for a long time prior, and I would want and need a picture of a rash. If the caregiver were worried about it, I would not have a problem writing something up for the caregiver's records, indemnifying them of any repercussions of taking said picture.<br /><br />I definitely understand the nanny's concerns, however, but instead of writing an email, which I see as impersonal, she should have had a talk with the mom regarding the situation and how to deal with this in the future. If it were something that the nanny were so uncomfortable with, then arrangements could be made to find another caregiver, and they could have parted ways somewhat amicably. Telling the mom that she must have guilt over being a working mom was really out of line and did nothing but create ill feelings between them; for that, I would have definitely started looking for another caregiver immediately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-80133714156877325262015-05-21T06:26:37.718-04:002015-05-21T06:26:37.718-04:00on the nanny's side - there are people in jail...on the nanny's side - there are people in jail fined etc who took a simple pic like thisRBTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12236958965651282895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-78552443665366382912015-05-18T19:50:28.941-04:002015-05-18T19:50:28.941-04:00Are you crazy? Sending naked pictures of a kids pr...Are you crazy? Sending naked pictures of a kids private area of found out, regardless of parent consent, can land that nanny in trouble by law because if push comes to shove the mom will save her ass and hang the nanny out to dry. Maybe the mom should have left and come straight home to see what was wrong. You hire someone to take care of your kids, she must have been happy with her services otherwise she wouldn't leave her kids and go on a business trip. Therefore she should trust the nanny's judgement on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-81736461758344388552015-05-15T16:16:47.010-04:002015-05-15T16:16:47.010-04:00I am sorry the mother is way, way out of line. The...I am sorry the mother is way, way out of line. There is no reason what so ever to ever take e a pic of a childs genitals or rear end. Unless the parents need proof of neglect or child abuse. Imagine if somehow that pic ended up of the net by mistake or whatever? Imagine if that mom was crazy and mad enough to say The nanny took pics of my naked child and pressed charges on the nanny...That is absurd to ask a nanny to take naked pics of any child in todays age, even 20 years ago it would be crossing the line. I would have quit that job the next day..The mom is clearly out of her mind. The nanny takes the child to the doctor end of story that is it period. Case closed. No pics ever, ever, ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-8911799302391256152015-05-14T23:15:51.438-04:002015-05-14T23:15:51.438-04:00I wouldn't take the photo either, because I...I wouldn't take the photo either, because I'm not comfortable doing that.<br /><br />It's not 'insubordinate' to refuse to do something that could, if seen by unknowing eyes and/or anyone quick to jump on the 911 bandwagon, cause alarm.<br /><br />Regardless of whether it's 'legal' or not to take a photo of a child's BARE BOOTY, for scientific purposes or not, the Mother should've called the doctor and trusted that her nanny, the person SHE LEFT HER CHILDREN WITH WHILE SHE WENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, would be able to handle any impending doom.<br /><br />Because really, if the rash was deadly and the kid would be dead in 12 hours, the Mom still wouldn't have been there to rescue the kid. So it's kind-of a moot point to be like 'I'm 2000 miles away, WHAT I SAY GOES' .. I mean yes I follow the rules of the families I work with but if it's a JUDGEMENT CALL and the parents are either not contactable, out of town, etc., I'm going to inform them however I can and then proceed with MY OWN judgement call, because I am the adult left in charge.<br /><br />Good on you, OP. I hope you don't lose this position but if you do, just know that there are plenty of other, non-asshole parents who are seeking great quality nannies all over the country/world. :P Alicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-83181308292294373002015-05-14T15:51:18.709-04:002015-05-14T15:51:18.709-04:00Seriously it's simple...if the mother is away ...Seriously it's simple...if the mother is away and the child has a medical issue have the Nanny take the child directly to the doctor to solve the problem. No pictures needed on that one. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-86935518460771966152015-05-14T11:42:58.791-04:002015-05-14T11:42:58.791-04:00Let's all just agree to disagree! :).... movin...Let's all just agree to disagree! :).... moving on....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07008100037262291420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-33534232925836834812015-05-14T09:55:32.778-04:002015-05-14T09:55:32.778-04:00Everything you've posted IS your issues with o...Everything you've posted IS your issues with others' opinions, but okay.this_nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00318803218118396311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-90455758478646403342015-05-14T00:50:53.256-04:002015-05-14T00:50:53.256-04:00I have no issue with others' opinions. There a...I have no issue with others' opinions. There are lots of differing opinions here. That's the nature of any comment section in any blog. I didn't tell anyone not to give advice. I just think giving legal advice online is not a good idea. Ultimately, each nanny will do what s/he wants to do. What I'm ok with may not suit you and what you find ok, I may find objectionable. C'est la vie. Not reallynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-30433570522760495522015-05-14T00:31:17.639-04:002015-05-14T00:31:17.639-04:00You keep insisting that no one here can give a leg...You keep insisting that no one here can give a legal opinion but have no trouble doing so yourself. It isn't your call as to who can and can't give advice. this_nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00318803218118396311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-61681521448255635792015-05-13T23:48:42.106-04:002015-05-13T23:48:42.106-04:00Lol! Really? Where did you give it... and then a f...Lol! Really? Where did you give it... and then a few words down "it's not illegal". That is giving a legal opinion aka advice. Meaning if she were to listen to your incorrect information, she could find herself in a bind. Maybe you should do some perusing yourself. Ha :)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-3924264676119635392015-05-13T23:44:27.456-04:002015-05-13T23:44:27.456-04:00WHERE did i give legal advice? I simply said takin...WHERE did i give legal advice? I simply said taking a photo of a medical condition is not illegal. That's a statement (and fact) not advice. Peruse a dictionary.angihttp://www.dictionary.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-323882295594714632015-05-13T20:44:26.190-04:002015-05-13T20:44:26.190-04:00Number one: MB is on a little bit of a power trip....Number one: MB is on a little bit of a power trip. <br />Number two: I would have taken the picture, sent it, then deleted it. Seriously people, it's not illegal. Op's response about her feeling guilty was just wrong. As a nanny, it's your responsibility to not be one of those working mommy shamers. <br />In conclusion, both sides are being stupid. MB is acting innapropriate. Nanny is not following simple directions. She could have at least explained why she was so against taking the picture to MB and offered an alternative. <br />And just in my opinion, in response to another commenter, nannies need to be able to call shots when a parent isn't there. But it needs to be based on their best idea of what the parent would do. OP didn't make the right call though. nannyrobothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895772417261059471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-77762875635505006612015-05-13T19:58:30.043-04:002015-05-13T19:58:30.043-04:00I get what you're saying too, Dana. But to me....I get what you're saying too, Dana. But to me. There are times when I feel I have the right to refuse. In order to protect myself and the children. For instance, one of my jobs was advertised as nannying two kids. I have a car that can safely transport two kids so I applied and was hired shortly thereafter. Come to find out, MB had a step son that is with them two weeks out of the month. He was six yrs old. I told her I would have no issue providing care for him, but I couldn't transport him in my car as it didn't accommodate a booster seat. She told me to not worry about it and he can ride shotgun. I refused after politely explaining my reasons (the law, auto safety recommendations etc...) She made it a condition of the job. She explained to me that she lets him ride shotgun. I told her I couldn't do so without risking his safety.I also didn't want to be pulled over and or have insurance trouble. So we parted ways. I guess what I;m trying to sat is that Mom Boss can dictate 99% of their child's day under a nanny's care. But there are some times when a nanny should/can object. True but.....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-75923922708647734582015-05-13T19:38:40.326-04:002015-05-13T19:38:40.326-04:00I really do see both sides of this. Personally as ...I really do see both sides of this. Personally as a nanny I do what the mom says whether it's what I think is right or not. <br />That's really all I meant. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07008100037262291420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-15796747454993300502015-05-13T16:56:58.177-04:002015-05-13T16:56:58.177-04:00I'm shocked at the mass hysteria and failure t...I'm shocked at the mass hysteria and failure to grasp a legal definition of pornography, so there you go.this_nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00318803218118396311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-47153989820360463902015-05-13T16:49:00.054-04:002015-05-13T16:49:00.054-04:00A misinformed person at Wal-Mart called the author...A misinformed person at Wal-Mart called the authorities and the authorities sorted it out, because nothing illegal happened. I'm assuming the nanny wouldn't be printing out a butt rash pic at Wal-Mart lol.this_nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00318803218118396311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-6278185635017560712015-05-13T15:37:56.510-04:002015-05-13T15:37:56.510-04:00I took a beautiful picture of bubble covered (more...I took a beautiful picture of bubble covered (more covered than bathing suit clad) toddlers in a tub smiling. The mom & dad thought it was fantastic! I tried to print it at Walmart they declined to print it. They said if it's an unclothed child it's considered porn. They called the authorities. Someone had to come from the county and dismiss. Consequently I'll never take anything that can remotely be misconstrued. While the mom feels slighted she asked the nanny to do something that if intercepted and misconstrued might have changed the nannys life. The emails didn't help on either end either. Suck up the uncomfortable nature of this discussion and talk it out. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-52843228032411214582015-05-13T15:07:34.379-04:002015-05-13T15:07:34.379-04:00The mom bosses need to understand that the rules y...The mom bosses need to understand that the rules you get in jobs corporations doesn't apply to nannies. There is an emotional component in this job and we are dealing with wonderful human beings. This is our duty to make sure that even if a risk is ridiculously low not to take it even if mom boss insist. I wouldn't have taken rhe picture either Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-47498624673371809262015-05-13T14:19:52.737-04:002015-05-13T14:19:52.737-04:00@Dana you seem to be laboring under the same misco...@Dana you seem to be laboring under the same misconceptions as the mom in this post. This isnt at all about who is in charge. There is never a question about who is in charge. Parents do and should make all decisions regarding their kids. But this doesn't mean that you can put the nannies career, liberty and or position in jeopardy. The nanny was uncomfortable taking a nude picture of a child's private area. She is right to refuse. I'd agree wholeheartedly with you if the nanny refused to photograph a bruise or rash elsewhere on the child. A bruised knee is a very different issue and nanny would've taken that shot as she stated in the op. I'm just shocked that so many people dont grasp the seriousness of this issue. OP, you did the right thing IMO.Not a Momnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-63135518502880608272015-05-13T14:06:41.164-04:002015-05-13T14:06:41.164-04:00I do feel as though she should have taken the phot...I do feel as though she should have taken the photo. I do not feel as though we, as nannies, have the right to call the shots here. Maybe because I am a mom too and I would not take that lightly. I am the mom I tell you what to do with my child. PERIOD. perhaps she needs to step down from that high horse....<br />It's not child porn, it is letting a mother get all the info she needs incase she has to call doctor or do whatever needs to be done.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07008100037262291420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-18427526250378733332015-05-13T06:10:15.307-04:002015-05-13T06:10:15.307-04:00To Nick & Angi I don't have stories of nan...To Nick & Angi I don't have stories of nannies. Maybe PP does, but I HAVE seen news stories of parents losing custody of their child for bath time bare bottom pics. At the end of the day, it's all about the level of risk each Nanny/Caregiver is willing to personally take. You're willing to take that chance? Great! Do you! This poster wasn't willing to and is ok with losing a job over it. I wouldn't even consider taking such an image. Also my choice. I'm so sick of nannies jumping on each other. There are lots of things other nannies do that I wouldn't and vice versa. And Angi, a real attorney would tell you not to give legal advice on the internet. You don't know that it wouldn't cause her legal troubles. FGSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32916951.post-10165779742115264062015-05-13T01:48:51.737-04:002015-05-13T01:48:51.737-04:00I really don't get why you wouldn't take t...I really don't get why you wouldn't take the photo? Can someone explain it to me? Danish Nannynoreply@blogger.com